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Guys FFS go and gie yersell peace !!

i find this newgroup frustrating and i am sure many others turned off by the
constant bickering of the few , it gets boring reading the same old crap
from
same boring twats each day .. go get a life , if you have knowlwdge pass
it on , if not go and masturbate to keep yourself busy

my grammer aint perfect , my spelling aint perfect but i am a busy lad
trying to keep the days workload under controla nd learn and grow on
new subjects , i also have a really crappy LIGHT UP keyboard that i
should throw back at asda as you relly need to wallop the keys ...
i will get round to replacing one day soon but in the meantime put up or
shut up

In the meantime does anybody knwo of a really good BUSY forum
about Voip where people help and contribute rather thn bicker to
pass their day


"Homeworker" <> wrote in message
news:giYjj.7799$%...
> da wonder of ebay
>
> I bought a BT VOYAGER 2500V with built in
> VOIP support and telephone socket
>
> i presume this means no computer needs to be
> on just the router at all times
>
> i presume if i use somepne like sipgate who support
> multiple voip companies i can have multiple lines
> phone numers incoming
>
> i presume if i want to take full advantage multiple
> outgoing i need to buy separately somehting like
> a grandstream
>
> am i learning , trying hard here to get to grips
> with this technology
>
> --
> http://www.gradwell.com/voip/pricing/
> http://www.sipgate.co.uk/user/tarife.php?show=2
> http://www.tescointernetphone.com/about/callplans/
> http://www.voipdiscount.com/en/rates.html
> http://www.voipcheap.com/en/rates.html
> http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/rates.html
> http://www.voxalot.com/action/home
> http://www.mysipswitch.com/callmanagement.aspx
> http://www.provoip.co.uk
> http://www.voipstunt.com/en/index.html
> http://www.voip.co.uk
> http://www.voipfone.co.uk
>

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:19:45 +0000, Homeworker wrote:

> it gets boring reading the same old crap from same boring twats each
> day

Have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killfile

> In the meantime does anybody knwo of a really good BUSY forum about Voip
> where people help and contribute rather thn bicker to pass their day

Try searching Google for 'voip forum'. There are plenty out there to
choose from.

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In article <>,
<> wrote:

>And spelling just does not matter providing one can tell what the
>writer is on about, if doctors can get away with the numerous spelling
>mistakes and abymal hand writing that they make I am sure someone
>posting to a poxy news group can .

Hey Ron, that's "poxy forum" to you ...

Gordon

Nick wrote:


Not me.


> Basic rules, like, "I" before "E", accept after "C" for example.


A heinous error. One hopes that you will consider your conscience
before indulging in further spelling trolls.

Grumpy wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:58:37 GMT, "Nick" <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:-...
>>>>> Homeworker wrote:
>>>>>> da wonder of ebay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought a BT VOYAGER 2500V with built in
>>>>>> VOIP support and telephone socket
>>>>> Good for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> i presume this means no computer needs to be
>>>>>> on just the router at all times
>>>>> Correct
>>>>>
>>>>>> i presume if i use somepne like sipgate who support
>>>>>> multiple voip companies i can have multiple lines
>>>>>> phone numers incoming
>>>>> Maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>>> i presume if i want to take full advantage multiple
>>>>>> outgoing i need to buy separately somehting like
>>>>>> a grandstream
>>>>> A Grandstream what?
>>>>>
>>>>>> am i learning , trying hard here to get to grips
>>>>>> with this technology
>>>>> I know. Technology can be difficult. Generally one starts a sentence
>>>>> with a capital letter and i by itself is usually a capital I. You will
>>>>> find the shift keys on your keyboard will produce these characyers if
>>>>> you hold one down whilst pressing the character you wish to
>>>>> capitalise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Full stops are customary at the end of sentences. On a UK keyboard the
>>>>> full stop key is just left of the ?
>>>> And once these skills are achieved, correct spelling is the next.
>>>>
>>> And spelling just does not matter providing one can tell what the
>>> writer is on about, if doctors can get away with the numerous spelling
>>> mistakes and abymal hand writing that they make I am sure someone
>>> posting to a poxy news group can .
>>
>> Actually Nick was quite right and I totally disagree with you. I
>> should have taken more care. Just pure laziness on my part.
>
> Does someone have to meet a certain critereon in order to recieve help
> from you?

Yes they have to spell critereon as criterion and recieve as receive so
you fail.

> If so choose not to reply

Reply deleted

Homeworker wrote:
> Guys FFS go and gie yersell peace !!
>
> i find this newgroup frustrating and i am sure many others turned off by the
> constant bickering of the few , it gets boring reading the same old crap
> from
> same boring twats each day .. go get a life , if you have knowlwdge pass
> it on , if not go and masturbate to keep yourself busy

Actually, for the record, a badly written message is hard work to read
and as none of us get paid to help, why should we waste time trying to
figure out WTF you are trying to say and help you when you can't even be
bothered to write a question in plain simple English?

>
> my grammer aint perfect , my spelling aint perfect but i am a busy lad
> trying to keep the days workload under controla nd learn and grow on
> new subjects , i also have a really crappy LIGHT UP keyboard that i
> should throw back at asda as you relly need to wallop the keys ...
> i will get round to replacing one day soon but in the meantime put up or
> shut up

A poor workman blames his tools...... But then anyone who buys their
computer hardware from a grocer gets all they deserve.


> In the meantime does anybody knwo of a really good BUSY forum
> about Voip where people help and contribute rather thn bicker to
> pass their day

If such a thing existed, this newsgroup would be empty. Try Google.

Desk Rabbit wrote:
> Grumpy wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:58:37 GMT, "Nick" <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-...
>>>>>> Homeworker wrote:
>>>>>>> da wonder of ebay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought a BT VOYAGER 2500V with built in
>>>>>>> VOIP support and telephone socket
>>>>>> Good for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i presume this means no computer needs to be
>>>>>>> on just the router at all times
>>>>>> Correct
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i presume if i use somepne like sipgate who support
>>>>>>> multiple voip companies i can have multiple lines
>>>>>>> phone numers incoming
>>>>>> Maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i presume if i want to take full advantage multiple
>>>>>>> outgoing i need to buy separately somehting like
>>>>>>> a grandstream
>>>>>> A Grandstream what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> am i learning , trying hard here to get to grips
>>>>>>> with this technology
>>>>>> I know. Technology can be difficult. Generally one starts a sentence
>>>>>> with a capital letter and i by itself is usually a capital I. You
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> find the shift keys on your keyboard will produce these characyers if
>>>>>> you hold one down whilst pressing the character you wish to
>>>>>> capitalise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Full stops are customary at the end of sentences. On a UK keyboard
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> full stop key is just left of the ?
>>>>> And once these skills are achieved, correct spelling is the next.
>>>>>
>>>> And spelling just does not matter providing one can tell what the
>>>> writer is on about, if doctors can get away with the numerous spelling
>>>> mistakes and abymal hand writing that they make I am sure someone
>>>> posting to a poxy news group can .
>>>
>>> Actually Nick was quite right and I totally disagree with you. I
>>> should have taken more care. Just pure laziness on my part.
>>
>> Does someone have to meet a certain critereon in order to recieve help
>> from you?
>
> Yes they have to spell critereon as criterion and recieve as receive so
> you fail.
>
>> If so choose not to reply
>
> Reply deleted

The idea of this forum is to inform or help people who who seek advice,
It is not here to score points by those who feel superior.
I chose to follow your example in my reply by making a spelling mistake.
My previous suggestion stands "If so choose not to reply"

Grumpy wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> Grumpy wrote:
>>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:58:37 GMT, "Nick" <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-...
>>>>>>> Homeworker wrote:
>>>>>>>> da wonder of ebay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I bought a BT VOYAGER 2500V with built in
>>>>>>>> VOIP support and telephone socket
>>>>>>> Good for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i presume this means no computer needs to be
>>>>>>>> on just the router at all times
>>>>>>> Correct
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i presume if i use somepne like sipgate who support
>>>>>>>> multiple voip companies i can have multiple lines
>>>>>>>> phone numers incoming
>>>>>>> Maybe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i presume if i want to take full advantage multiple
>>>>>>>> outgoing i need to buy separately somehting like
>>>>>>>> a grandstream
>>>>>>> A Grandstream what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> am i learning , trying hard here to get to grips
>>>>>>>> with this technology
>>>>>>> I know. Technology can be difficult. Generally one starts a sentence
>>>>>>> with a capital letter and i by itself is usually a capital I. You
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> find the shift keys on your keyboard will produce these
>>>>>>> characyers if
>>>>>>> you hold one down whilst pressing the character you wish to
>>>>>>> capitalise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Full stops are customary at the end of sentences. On a UK
>>>>>>> keyboard the
>>>>>>> full stop key is just left of the ?
>>>>>> And once these skills are achieved, correct spelling is the next.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And spelling just does not matter providing one can tell what the
>>>>> writer is on about, if doctors can get away with the numerous spelling
>>>>> mistakes and abymal hand writing that they make I am sure someone
>>>>> posting to a poxy news group can .
>>>>
>>>> Actually Nick was quite right and I totally disagree with you. I
>>>> should have taken more care. Just pure laziness on my part.
>>>
>>> Does someone have to meet a certain critereon in order to recieve
>>> help from you?
>>
>> Yes they have to spell critereon as criterion and recieve as receive
>> so you fail.
>>
>>> If so choose not to reply
>>
>> Reply deleted
>
> The idea of this forum is to inform or help people who who seek advice,
Err, this is a newsgroup. Ivor!!!!

> It is not here to score points by those who feel superior.
Totally agree. But also if you are going to ask a question and ask for
free advice at no cost from volunteers who take time out of their day to
try and help for free and at no cost, at least have the gumption and
politeness to write the message in a legible form so you don't make
reading it a chore. That's all I'm saying.

> I chose to follow your example in my reply by making a spelling mistake.
Er, mistakes(s) I think you'll find.

> My previous suggestion stands "If so choose not to reply"
My two cents: Newbies need to learn and if we just ignore the top
posters, the poor spellers, the people who think it's OK to use SMS TXT
shorthand and the grammar destroyers, newsgroups will be the worse for it.

Desk Rabbit wrote:
> Grumpy wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> Grumpy wrote:
>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:58:37 GMT, "Nick" <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-...
>>>>>>>> Homeworker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> da wonder of ebay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I bought a BT VOYAGER 2500V with built in
>>>>>>>>> VOIP support and telephone socket
>>>>>>>> Good for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i presume this means no computer needs to be
>>>>>>>>> on just the router at all times
>>>>>>>> Correct
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i presume if i use somepne like sipgate who support
>>>>>>>>> multiple voip companies i can have multiple lines
>>>>>>>>> phone numers incoming
>>>>>>>> Maybe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i presume if i want to take full advantage multiple
>>>>>>>>> outgoing i need to buy separately somehting like
>>>>>>>>> a grandstream
>>>>>>>> A Grandstream what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> am i learning , trying hard here to get to grips
>>>>>>>>> with this technology
>>>>>>>> I know. Technology can be difficult. Generally one starts a
>>>>>>>> sentence
>>>>>>>> with a capital letter and i by itself is usually a capital I.
>>>>>>>> You will
>>>>>>>> find the shift keys on your keyboard will produce these
>>>>>>>> characyers if
>>>>>>>> you hold one down whilst pressing the character you wish to
>>>>>>>> capitalise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Full stops are customary at the end of sentences. On a UK
>>>>>>>> keyboard the
>>>>>>>> full stop key is just left of the ?
>>>>>>> And once these skills are achieved, correct spelling is the next.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And spelling just does not matter providing one can tell what the
>>>>>> writer is on about, if doctors can get away with the numerous
>>>>>> spelling
>>>>>> mistakes and abymal hand writing that they make I am sure someone
>>>>>> posting to a poxy news group can .
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually Nick was quite right and I totally disagree with you. I
>>>>> should have taken more care. Just pure laziness on my part.
>>>>
>>>> Does someone have to meet a certain critereon in order to recieve
>>>> help from you?
>>>
>>> Yes they have to spell critereon as criterion and recieve as receive
>>> so you fail.
>>>
>>>> If so choose not to reply
>>>
>>> Reply deleted
>>
>> The idea of this forum is to inform or help people who who seek advice,
> Err, this is a newsgroup. Ivor!!!!
>
>> It is not here to score points by those who feel superior.
> Totally agree. But also if you are going to ask a question and ask for
> free advice at no cost from volunteers who take time out of their day to
> try and help for free and at no cost, at least have the gumption and
> politeness to write the message in a legible form so you don't make
> reading it a chore. That's all I'm saying.

Your original reply to the op was patronizing and demeaning.
>
>> I chose to follow your example in my reply by making a spelling mistake.
> Er, mistakes(s) I think you'll find.

Are you suggesting that when you make a mistake its just a slip up, but
when others do it it invalidates the point they are trying to make.
>
>> My previous suggestion stands "If so choose not to reply"
> My two cents: Newbies need to learn and if we just ignore the top
> posters, the poor spellers, the people who think it's OK to use SMS TXT
> shorthand and the grammar destroyers, newsgroups will be the worse for it.

The aims of your "two cents" are not unreasonable. The manner in which
you tried to achieve it are deplorable.
The answer you gave him tried neither to help nor inform the op.
If you require someone to take more care with thier spelling or a better
explanation of thier problem, then you must take more care in the way
you request it.
If the op chooses to ignore your request or that of the first poster
that makes such a request, all those of a similar mind as yourself
"choose not to reply"

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:32:36 +0000, Desk Rabbit <>
wrote:


>Err, this is a newsgroup. Ivor!!!!

This is a FORUM Ivor if you don't like then tough .

>My two cents: Newbies need to learn and if we just ignore the top

But not from your stupid hang ups re spammers and Sipgate etc etc .
>posters, the poor spellers, the people who think it's OK to use SMS TXT
>shorthand and the grammar destroyers, newsgroups will be the worse for it.
So WHAT ! if you don't like it then bugger off .