Tara Legale wrote:
> I have an old Dell Dimension L466C with only 31MB memory. I want to hook
> up DSL to it and it has to have 32MB (for heavens sake) to install the DSL
> software.
>
> Looking on Circuit City's website they have 256MB for cheap at the following
> link:
>
> http://www.circuitcity.com:80/ccd/pr...d=0&oid=173596
>
> Can I plug this particular memory card into this Dell with no issues?
I have ADSL, and with mine there are two options.
1) Connect ADSL modem directly to the computer. Since the ADSL modem
"speaks" PPPOE, I must install the ISP software for that to work.
The ISP software converts PPPOE to conventional packets. PPP is point
to point protocol, and the ADSL modem is basically working like a
fancy dial-up modem, and providing a byte stream. The PPP protocol
parses the stream and makes packets out of it. Similar to some PPP
software you'd use with a dialup modem.
ADSL_modem ------> one-computer-with-crappy-ISP-software-installed
2) The second alternative, is to connect ADSL_modem to a router box.
(Some ADSL modems have a router in the same hardware box now.)
For example, I used to use a Linksys BEFSR41 router. That router
(and many others) support PPPOE protocol. Thus, the Linksys router
takes the place of the ISP software. I use a web browser to set up
the Linksys browser, and tell the Linksys to "connect". The Linksys
sends the userid and password, and does the PPPOE protocol. What
comes out of the router, is plain ordinary Ethernet packets. The
result is that any computer plugged into the router, doesn't have
to know that you're on a DSL modem.
ADSL_modem -----> router_with_PPPOE -----> any-old-computer without SW
Now, depending on the price of the router, you could either save money
or spend more, than your RAM upgrade idea. The Linksys was very expensive
when I bought it, but now that wired routers are yesterday's technology,
you can get much cheaper ones. I think the router I got to replace the
Linksys, was 1/10th the price. My second router is no longer being made.
You could visit Staples and see what they have laying around, and
maybe there is a nice wired router there. For example, I see this one
at Staples for about $50, and I actually had to download the manual
to find out for certain it had PPPOE. Neither the advert, nor the product
datasheet on Dlink, listed PPPOE. To be sure, I had to get the manual (8MB)
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Gateway/ebr2310_...manual_200.zip
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For your proposed RAM upgrade, the Dell site doesn't have the usual
information for the L466C. One poster on the Dell community site,
mentioned the chipset is i810 from Intel. There is a picture
of the board here.
http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/83/a3/d5_1.JPG
The Intel chart (rightmost column), says i810 holds a max of 512MB
memory, in the form of two 256MB SDRAM DIMMs. The speed the memory
is running at, would be a function of the front side bus speed for
the processor.
http://support.intel.com/design/chip...t+hghlt_chart&
This is what the Crucial site shows for "Dimension L series". They
don't seem to break out the models any further than that, so presumably
all the L series had similar motherboards. The part number here would
reflect a solution they cooked up just for the Dell.
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...n%20L%20Series
A similar board from the same era, would be an Asus MEW-AM with i810.
If I look that one up on Crucial, the part numbers for the memory
are "open" (not Dell specific) part numbers. I believe I've used
the CAS2 memory on my 440BX board. The memory would be the "low density"
kind, with 16 chips. (High density 256MB SDRAM has 8 chips, and no
chips on the back side of the module.) Maybe the chipset could
actually use high density memory, but I wouldn't take a chance on it.
One way you'd know, is if the motherboard only detected 128MB.
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...x?model=MEW-AM
You'll notice on this page, that the MEW-AM runs SDRAM at PC66
or PC100, while the memory product Crucial is offering is
PC133. Apparently Crucial is confident enough that it is
a valid substitute, to list it.
http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartsp...73DF0BA5CA7304
In terms of pricing, the CAS2 and CAS3 memories have identical
pricing. CAS2 is faster than CAS3, which means the lower
latency memory is a "free" upgrade. (It might not make
any different to that computer, but I just like the
idea of getting a feature for free

)
So $45 should fix it.
I was hoping the Circuit City reviewers would comment on the
number of chips on that module. But I didn't get lucky. I
would prefer to see 16 chips (8 on one side, 8 on the other),
as a positive indication the memory is low density and
more likely to be fully detected (all 256MB) when installed.
With the plastic packaging, it may be difficult to verify
that. (Following line, manually wrapped to suit my news server)
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Custo...op-Memory/sem/
rpsm/oid/173596/callingModule/9/pageno/2/sortby/1/order/D/rpem/ccd/ExpandedModule.do#custRatings
Paul