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.rev [askthemct.com]
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      01-14-2008
Correct...They do not.

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"John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote in message
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> "kpg*" <> wrote in message
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>>> But what about a process that runs even without a user
>>> logged in such as a service? Well, since no user has in fact logged
>>> on, it would appear that computer configuration settings are the only
>>> settings that have been applied.

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>> ...but don't services require the specification of a user account
>> to run under?
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>>

>
> Yes, but most services run as the local system, and those that do have
> domain or local user specified as their logon simply authenticate, they do
> not process group policy (that I know of) since they are not an
> interactive logon.
>
> Of course, now you've given me something else to test
>
> John R
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      01-14-2008
"John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> prattled ceaselessly in
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> "John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote in message
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> ^^^
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      01-14-2008
FYI - Its good your GPO's don't do both. No GPO should configure user and
computer settings. It should always be one or the other.

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"John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote in message
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> "Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]" <> wrote
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>> "John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote in message
>> news:#:
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>> You just take the fun out of everything.

>
> Sorry, Michael, but I really do agree with the OP, and I have seen it
> documented both ways as he stated. And I agree with your post as well, I
> was not trying to disagree with you.
>
> I forget who was asked if they wear boxers or briefs, and they answered
> 'depends'. That caused a good laugh because the answer was taken
> differently than it was intended. I have found that the same situation
> applies to this OPs question. IMHO, you have to look at the setting
> itself, what the setting applies to, and then of course take loopback
> processing into account. If the setting is to a service, or sometimes
> even to an application, if that application or service starts up prior to
> a user logon, it will be the computer configuration that will take
> priority unless it is a registry setting that the application queries
> periodically like a SAV or ForeFront Client Security registry setting,
> unless loopback processing is specfied in replace or merge mode, unless,
> unless, unless. The fact that MS even designed a loopback feature to allow
> for the computer configuration settings to override the user settings
> would indicate that it is the user settings that take precedence, but that
> isn't always necessary.
>
> That is what I found in my testing. I was thoroughly confused on this
> subject and actually spent about three weeks just changing two different
> gpos, rebooting, running RSoP, etc, until I came to the answer 'depends'.
> I don't remember if I was asked any questions on the test about conflicts,
> but I do know that I was asked about loopback processing.
>
> Fortunately, our organization uses GPOs sparingly, and almost all GPOs
> have only user or computer settings, not both. RSoP is really the best
> tool to test with prior to assigning a GPO to a production OU, and I use
> that extensively.
>
> John R
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Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]
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      01-15-2008
".rev [askthemct.com]" <> wrote in message
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> FYI - Its good your GPO's don't do both. No GPO should configure user and
> computer settings. It should always be one or the other.
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> "John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote in message
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> > "Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]" <> wrote
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> >> "John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote in message
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> >>

> >
> >> You just take the fun out of everything.

> >
> > Sorry, Michael, but I really do agree with the OP, and I have seen it
> > documented both ways as he stated. And I agree with your post as well, I
> > was not trying to disagree with you.
> >
> > I forget who was asked if they wear boxers or briefs, and they answered
> > 'depends'. That caused a good laugh because the answer was taken
> > differently than it was intended. I have found that the same situation
> > applies to this OPs question. IMHO, you have to look at the setting
> > itself, what the setting applies to, and then of course take loopback
> > processing into account. If the setting is to a service, or sometimes
> > even to an application, if that application or service starts up prior to
> > a user logon, it will be the computer configuration that will take
> > priority unless it is a registry setting that the application queries
> > periodically like a SAV or ForeFront Client Security registry setting,
> > unless loopback processing is specfied in replace or merge mode, unless,
> > unless, unless. The fact that MS even designed a loopback feature to allow
> > for the computer configuration settings to override the user settings
> > would indicate that it is the user settings that take precedence, but that
> > isn't always necessary.
> >
> > That is what I found in my testing. I was thoroughly confused on this
> > subject and actually spent about three weeks just changing two different
> > gpos, rebooting, running RSoP, etc, until I came to the answer 'depends'.
> > I don't remember if I was asked any questions on the test about conflicts,
> > but I do know that I was asked about loopback processing.
> >
> > Fortunately, our organization uses GPOs sparingly, and almost all GPOs
> > have only user or computer settings, not both. RSoP is really the best
> > tool to test with prior to assigning a GPO to a production OU, and I use
> > that extensively.
> >
> > John R
> >


Agreed. Besides, I stopped using GPOs, or any policies for that matter.
I turned the server room into a dungeon and punish. Thanks Cat for the
ideas over the months.

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      01-15-2008
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> Agreed. Besides, I stopped using GPOs, or any policies for that
> matter. I turned the server room into a dungeon and punished myself.
> Thanks Cat for the ideas over the months.
>


IFYPFY. And you're welcome.

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"catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]" <>
> prattled ceaselessly in news:#:
>
>
> >
> > Agreed. Besides, I stopped using GPOs, or any policies for that
> > matter. I turned the server room into a dungeon and punished myself.
> > Thanks Cat for the ideas over the months.
> >

>
> IFYPFY. And you're welcome.
>
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Hmm... even better.
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