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Mickey Mouse
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      09-11-2007
As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market, having
surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the entire Mac market. The
Intel based Macs see incremental growth mostly at the expense of older Macs.
Other OS's (including Linux) continue to decline in total market share.

Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC Other
February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09% 3.60%
May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51% 3.47%
August, 2007 80.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82% 3.44%

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5

 
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Allistar
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      09-11-2007
Mickey Mouse wrote:

> As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market, having
> surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the entire Mac market.
> The Intel based Macs see incremental growth mostly at the expense of older
> Macs. Other OS's (including Linux) continue to decline in total market
> share.
>
> Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC Other
> February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09% 3.60%
> May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51% 3.47%
> August, 2007 80.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82% 3.44%
>
> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5


Wouldn't one expect growth when most new computers have this OS installed by
default?

How do they count Linux users when there is no central point to easily count
them?
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Squiggle
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      09-11-2007
Allistar wrote:
> Mickey Mouse wrote:
>
>> As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market, having
>> surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the entire Mac market.
>> The Intel based Macs see incremental growth mostly at the expense of older
>> Macs. Other OS's (including Linux) continue to decline in total market
>> share.
>>
>> Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC Other
>> February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09% 3.60%
>> May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51% 3.47%
>> August, 2007 80.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82% 3.44%
>>
>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5

>
> Wouldn't one expect growth when most new computers have this OS installed by
> default?


Yes.

>
> How do they count Linux users when there is no central point to easily count
> them?


"This report lists the market share of the top operating systems in use.
This data is derived by aggregating the traffic across our network of
websites that use our service."
 
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Allistar
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      09-11-2007
Squiggle wrote:

> Allistar wrote:
>> Mickey Mouse wrote:
>>
>>> As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market, having
>>> surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the entire Mac market.
>>> The Intel based Macs see incremental growth mostly at the expense of
>>> older Macs. Other OS's (including Linux) continue to decline in total
>>> market share.
>>>
>>> Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC Other
>>> February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09% 3.60%
>>> May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51% 3.47%
>>> August, 2007 80.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82% 3.44%
>>>
>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5

>>
>> Wouldn't one expect growth when most new computers have this OS installed
>> by default?

>
> Yes.


So the numbers in themselves don't represent anything other than usage (i.e.
they don't represent any other qualities of the respective operating
systems - you can't say "OS x is better because more people use it").

>> How do they count Linux users when there is no central point to easily
>> count them?

>
> "This report lists the market share of the top operating systems in use.
> This data is derived by aggregating the traffic across our network of
> websites that use our service."


Which doesn't take into account user agent spoofing (which which tend to
over represent Windows figures rather than the other way around).

Allistar.
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Malcolm
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      09-11-2007
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:33:09 +1200
Squiggle <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Allistar wrote:
> > Mickey Mouse wrote:
> >
> >> As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market,
> >> having surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the
> >> entire Mac market. The Intel based Macs see incremental growth
> >> mostly at the expense of older Macs. Other OS's (including Linux)
> >> continue to decline in total market share.
> >>
> >> Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC
> >> Other February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09%
> >> 3.60% May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51%
> >> 3.47% August, 2007 80.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82%
> >> 3.44%
> >>
> >> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5

> >
> > Wouldn't one expect growth when most new computers have this OS
> > installed by default?

>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > How do they count Linux users when there is no central point to
> > easily count them?

>
> "This report lists the market share of the top operating systems in
> use. This data is derived by aggregating the traffic across our
> network of websites that use our service."

But at least the linux trend is slow but rising...
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux

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Will Spencer
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      09-12-2007
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:24:22 +1200, Allistar wrote:

> Mickey Mouse wrote:
>
>> As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market, having
>> surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the entire Mac market.
>> The Intel based Macs see incremental growth mostly at the expense of older
>> Macs. Other OS's (including Linux) continue to decline in total market
>> share.
>>
>> Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC Other
>> February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09% 3.60%
>> May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51% 3.47%
>> August, 2007 80.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82% 3.44%
>>
>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5

>
> Wouldn't one expect growth when most new computers have this OS installed by
> default?
>
> How do they count Linux users when there is no central point to easily count
> them?


The sooner you Linux geeks break out of denial and stop making excuses for
the failure of your shitty overrated underwhelming OS the sooner you might
have a chance of competing with Window$. You really need to send Linux to
the scrap heap where it belongs and start from scratch.

-ws
 
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Allistar
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      09-12-2007
Will Spencer wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:24:22 +1200, Allistar wrote:
>
>> Mickey Mouse wrote:
>>
>>> As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market, having
>>> surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the entire Mac market.
>>> The Intel based Macs see incremental growth mostly at the expense of
>>> older Macs. Other OS's (including Linux) continue to decline in total
>>> market share.
>>>
>>> Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC Other
>>> February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09% 3.60%
>>> May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51% 3.47%
>>> August, 2007 80.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82% 3.44%
>>>
>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5

>>
>> Wouldn't one expect growth when most new computers have this OS installed
>> by default?
>>
>> How do they count Linux users when there is no central point to easily
>> count them?

>
> The sooner you Linux geeks break out of denial and stop making excuses for
> the failure of your shitty overrated underwhelming OS the sooner you might
> have a chance of competing with Window$. You really need to send Linux to
> the scrap heap where it belongs and start from scratch.


Eh? I was questioning the counting technique used, not making any excuses.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      09-12-2007
In message <1safeha4fhzik$(E-Mail Removed)>, Will Spencer wrote:

> The sooner you Linux geeks break out of denial and stop making excuses for
> the failure of your shitty overrated underwhelming OS the sooner you might
> have a chance of competing with Window$. You really need to send Linux to
> the scrap heap where it belongs and start from scratch.


So how's your 64-bit Vista installation doing? All your hardware drivers
work OK? Running any actual 64-bit apps yet?
 
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Will Spencer
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      09-12-2007
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:17:21 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> In message <1safeha4fhzik$(E-Mail Removed)>, Will Spencer wrote:
>
>> The sooner you Linux geeks break out of denial and stop making excuses for
>> the failure of your shitty overrated underwhelming OS the sooner you might
>> have a chance of competing with Window$. You really need to send Linux to
>> the scrap heap where it belongs and start from scratch.

>
> So how's your 64-bit Vista installation doing? All your hardware drivers
> work OK? Running any actual 64-bit apps yet?


I didn't know you cared so much, but no major problem thanks. Looking to
upgrade to a quad-core cpu soon. Hey maybe I'll stick BSD on this old box.

-ws
 
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thingy
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      09-12-2007
Allistar wrote:
> Squiggle wrote:
>
>> Allistar wrote:
>>> Mickey Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>>> As to be expected, Vista continues it's growth in the market, having
>>>> surpassed Windows 2000 earlier this year, and now the entire Mac market.
>>>> The Intel based Macs see incremental growth mostly at the expense of
>>>> older Macs. Other OS's (including Linux) continue to decline in total
>>>> market share.
>>>>
>>>> Quarterly WinXP Vista Win2K MacOS MacPC Other
>>>> February, 2007 84.33% 0.93% 4.75% 4.29% 2.09% 3.60%
>>>> May, 2007 82.02% 3.74% 4.31% 3.95% 2.51% 3.47%
>>>> August, 2007 8 0.48% 6.26% 3.66% 3.33% 2.82% 3.44%
>>>>
>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5
>>> Wouldn't one expect growth when most new computers have this OS installed
>>> by default?

>> Yes.

>
> So the numbers in themselves don't represent anything other than usage (i.e.
> they don't represent any other qualities of the respective operating
> systems - you can't say "OS x is better because more people use it").
>
>>> How do they count Linux users when there is no central point to easily
>>> count them?

>> "This report lists the market share of the top operating systems in use.
>> This data is derived by aggregating the traffic across our network of
>> websites that use our service."

>
> Which doesn't take into account user agent spoofing (which which tend to
> over represent Windows figures rather than the other way around).
>
> Allistar.


Or if the websites who use the service are MSN.com, or
microsoft.com....or even maybe hotmail.com...if say they use slashdot,
I'd expect a 30~90% or something Linux OS share.

;]

These numbers are relative, so if vista is selling new machines, linux
use may well be growing and even acceleratingly but because Vista is the
biggest share it skews the figures...

Look at these figures another way, Vista would seem to be gaining at the
expense of XP and win2k....so its eating its own parents....mac and
linux numbers and growth seem un-effected by Vista...

A better/interesting figure would be to identify the upgrades to Vista
from earlier OSes (on the same hardware). This would identify just how
easy it is to do an upgrade, ie people complain Linux is hard to
install, but these same people may well have never installed an OS just
run the one that came with the box.

lies, damn lies and statistics....as someone once said.

regards

Thing







 
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