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Ninety-six percent of Finns have broadband internet

 
 
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Earl Grey
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      02-13-2007
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:

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But only 75% use it.
 
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      02-13-2007
Earl Grey wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
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> But only 75% use it.


100% for those under 40.

They are outstanding figures.
 
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      02-14-2007
"Earl Grey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
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> But only 75% use it.


What does the "but" mean exactly?

"For those under the age of 40, the figure is 100 percent."

Sounds about right to me.


 
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      02-14-2007
Zipper wrote:

> Earl Grey wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
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http://www.theage.com.au/news/Techno...129008262.html
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>> But only 75% use it.

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> 100% for those under 40.
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> They are outstanding figures.


Yes - depending on how they got there. If it was on the backs of taxpayers,
then it's a disgrace. If it was through private companies who charge those
who use the service then what an awesome result. The ends do not always
justify the means.

Allistar.
 
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      02-14-2007
Allistar wrote:
> Zipper wrote:
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>> Earl Grey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
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> http://www.theage.com.au/news/Techno...129008262.html
>>> But only 75% use it.

>> 100% for those under 40.
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>> They are outstanding figures.

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> Yes - depending on how they got there. If it was on the backs of taxpayers,
> then it's a disgrace. If it was through private companies who charge those
> who use the service then what an awesome result. The ends do not always
> justify the means.
>
> Allistar.


Well that is one opinion of course (yours).
 
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      02-14-2007
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:07:50 -0500, impossible wrote:

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>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
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>>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/Techno...129008262.html

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>> But only 75% use it.

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> What does the "but" mean exactly?


That it remains a discretionary activity regardless of what access is
provided by default
We are more user pays than the Finns who just cable everyone, socialists,
they even have citywide central heating in some towns.

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> "For those under the age of 40, the figure is 100 percent."
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> Sounds about right to me.



Occasional use.
You'ld expect to be able to say everyone had broadband if they each had a
3G phone eh ?

 
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      02-14-2007
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:50:29 +1300, Allistar wrote:

> Zipper wrote:
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>> Earl Grey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
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>>>>
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> http://www.theage.com.au/news/Techno...129008262.html
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>>> But only 75% use it.

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>> 100% for those under 40.
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>> They are outstanding figures.

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> Yes - depending on how they got there. If it was on the backs of taxpayers,
> then it's a disgrace. If it was through private companies who charge those
> who use the service then what an awesome result. The ends do not always
> justify the means.
>
> Allistar.


Its all private and deregulated, their biggest provider is Swedish and the
second biggest Finnish.
Its what might have happened if others were given local loop access here
wayback when it would have counted, we're ****ed now though.

 
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      02-14-2007
"Earl Grey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:07:50 -0500, impossible wrote:
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>> "Earl Grey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/Techno...129008262.html
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>>> But only 75% use it.

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>> What does the "but" mean exactly?

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> That it remains a discretionary activity regardless of what access
> is
> provided by default


At 76% uptake, it's "discretionary" like driving a car is
discretionary. But thank government for building roads that will get
you where you need to go.

> We are more user pays than the Finns who just cable everyone,
> socialists,
> they even have citywide central heating in some towns.
>


Ever been to Finland? Central heating is definitely **not**
discretionary there.

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>> "For those under the age of 40, the figure is 100 percent."
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>> Sounds about right to me.

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> Occasional use.


No, "regular or occasional". Which is exactly how'd you classify
**any** internet user.

> You'ld expect to be able to say everyone had broadband if they each
> had a
> 3G phone eh ?
>


Nothing to do with 3G phones. "Four out of five municipalities now
offer high-speed internet connections..." Compared to how many in NZ?
The US?


 
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      02-14-2007
"Earl Grey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:50:29 +1300, Allistar wrote:
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>> Zipper wrote:
>>
>>> Earl Grey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:10:59 +1300, Mathew Good wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/Techno...129008262.html
>>>>
>>>> But only 75% use it.
>>>
>>> 100% for those under 40.
>>>
>>> They are outstanding figures.

>>
>> Yes - depending on how they got there. If it was on the backs of
>> taxpayers,
>> then it's a disgrace. If it was through private companies who
>> charge those
>> who use the service then what an awesome result. The ends do not
>> always
>> justify the means.
>>
>> Allistar.

>
> Its all private and deregulated, their biggest provider is Swedish
> and the
> second biggest Finnish.


But it's all driven by a government initiative to extend access
throughout the country. Companies are not allowed to simply
cherry-pick the most profitable locations. Competition is high, but
the buisness environment is regulated. Imagine that!

> Its what might have happened if others were given local loop access
> here
> wayback when it would have counted, we're ****ed now though.
>


You'd be mistaken to think that competition on the local loop would in
itself have accomplished what Finland has accomplished.


 
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