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On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:15:13 -0800, Nathan Mercer wrote:

> Microsoft does not know the application compatibility status of every
> single piece of software out there

Translated:

Micro$oft has not done any testing for compatibility of media playing
software other than M$ Windows Media Player after having introduced
Digital Restrictions Management throughout M$ Windows Vi$ta.


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Dianthus Mimulus

Microsoft's business practises exposed in court:
http://www.maxframe.com/DR/Info/full...#_Toc447960918

whoisthis wrote, On 3/02/07 7.34 p:
> and tell them that in New Zealand DVD players are region free because it
> is legal to do so..... and that zoned DVD players do NOT sell.

How is it illegal to sell them (where in the law does it say this)?
Several people have told me this, but I haven't been able to actually
find the source of it.

-Phil

Dianthus Mimulus wrote:
> Micro$oft ... M$ Windows Media Player ... M$ Windows Vi$ta.
>

*sigh*

Tried a Region Free firmware for your drive from the likes of
http://tdb.rpc1.org/ ?

Then again, I remember reading something like this a while back
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp...5&TopicId=9793

On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:41:47 +1300, Phil wrote:

>> and tell them that in New Zealand DVD players are region free because it
>> is legal to do so..... and that zoned DVD players do NOT sell.
>
> How is it illegal to sell them (where in the law does it say this)?
> Several people have told me this, but I haven't been able to actually
> find the source of it.

It is illegal to sell region-locked DVD players here in NZ because a DVD
should be playable in ANY DVD player that claims to conform to the DVD
standard, and likewise a DVD player should be able to play ANY DVD that
claims to conform to the DVD standard.


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Dianthus Mimulus

Microsoft's business practises exposed in court:
http://www.maxframe.com/DR/Info/full...#_Toc447960918

Dianthus Mimulus wrote, On 4/02/07 1.12 p:
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:41:47 +1300, Phil wrote:
>
>>> and tell them that in New Zealand DVD players are region free because it
>>> is legal to do so..... and that zoned DVD players do NOT sell.
>> How is it illegal to sell them (where in the law does it say this)?
>> Several people have told me this, but I haven't been able to actually
>> find the source of it.
>
> It is illegal to sell region-locked DVD players here in NZ because a DVD
> should be playable in ANY DVD player that claims to conform to the DVD
> standard, and likewise a DVD player should be able to play ANY DVD that
> claims to conform to the DVD standard.
>

That wasn't my question. Where in the legislation does it make it
illegal to sell region-locked devices?

-Phil

On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:20:31 +1300, Phil wrote:

> That wasn't my question. Where in the legislation does it make it
> illegal to sell region-locked devices?

The Consumer Guarantees Act makes it illegal to sell anything not fit for
the purpose for which it is being sold.

A DVD player that cannot play a DVD from any region is illegal in NZ.


--
Dianthus Mimulus

Microsoft's business practises exposed in court:
http://www.maxframe.com/DR/Info/full...#_Toc447960918

Bystander wrote:
> Well, I'm just about ready for an upgrade to Vista now: a 2GHz CPU, a
> new Microsoft-approved NVidia card, 2GB RAM, adequate hard disk space;
> I'm ready to roll.
>
> But one thing stays my hand: I run a piece of software called DVD
> Region-Free on my XP PC so that I can use the PC to watch DVD from the
> US and UK as well as our region 4 DVDs.
>
> I understand that Vista's DRM is insanely oppressive when it comes to
> High Definition video formats, but that doesn't yet concern me. I am
> worried though, that if I install Vista I won't be able to freely watch
> DVDs. Does anyone know what the story is here?
>
> By the way, please don't waste my time by telling me to switch to Linux.
> I get all the *nix I want from my Macs, thanks.

Slightly OT but I am curious - why are you upgrading from XP to Vista?

This is a genuine question - I have no OS-wars axe to grind.

Crash.

Dianthus Mimulus wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:20:31 +1300, Phil wrote:
>
>> That wasn't my question. Where in the legislation does it make it
>> illegal to sell region-locked devices?
>
> The Consumer Guarantees Act makes it illegal to sell anything not fit for
> the purpose for which it is being sold.
>
> A DVD player that cannot play a DVD from any region is illegal in NZ.
>
>
That's not what the law provides.

Our parallel importing law allows individuals and companies to bypass
proprietary lock-ins imposed by manufacturers.

That includes the DVD region codes.

Retailers are free to sell any kind of DVD player they like, including
one with enforced region codes and one without.

The market has made its choices.

Incidentally, if there were no region codes there would be far less
piracy of DVD product.

Philip

Philip <> wrote:

>Dianthus Mimulus wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:20:31 +1300, Phil wrote:
>>
>>> That wasn't my question. Where in the legislation does it make it
>>> illegal to sell region-locked devices?
>>
>> The Consumer Guarantees Act makes it illegal to sell anything not fit for
>> the purpose for which it is being sold.
>>
>> A DVD player that cannot play a DVD from any region is illegal in NZ.
>>
>>
>That's not what the law provides.
>
>Our parallel importing law allows individuals and companies to bypass
>proprietary lock-ins imposed by manufacturers.
>
>That includes the DVD region codes.
>
>Retailers are free to sell any kind of DVD player they like, including
>one with enforced region codes and one without.
>
>The market has made its choices.
>
>Incidentally, if there were no region codes there would be far less
>piracy of DVD product.
>
>Philip

How do you work that out?? Regional coding has nothing to do with
piracy but lots to do with price gouging marketing..