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I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no previous
linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as been
the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the internet to work
and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find the browser speed
frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e. Anyhow I have
broadband and for windows I have configured the router for port forwarding
for better use with torrents and have had no problems with getting this
setup correctly but i am wondering if this is what is buggering up linux
although I can't see why because in both cases when linux does it's dhcp
communication with the router it fails and in the case of damn small linux
distribution says the connection is not there or incompatible. Now as the
only help I have found on this says it should just work I am stumped as to
what could be wrong or how to fix it, I am using a dlink dsl 302g router and
according to what I have read I should have no problems with this working
with linux, dhcp should just pick up the ip address for me etc...
Anyhow if some could help me it would be much appreciated bearing in mind
that I am a reasonably competent windows user but completely lost with linux
and don't want to have to learn a lot just to try linux out, of course if I
can use it with web browsing and it works much faster than windows I may
take a serious look at leaving windows behind which I would love to do right
now but unfortunately it is never easy to take the road less travelled and
this is what makes unattractive to a beginner, catch 22 I know.

"analogman" <no@digital> wrote in message news:45b9c059$...
>I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no previous
> linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as
> been
> the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the internet to
> work
> and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find the browser speed
> frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e. Anyhow I have
> broadband and for windows I have configured the router for port forwarding
> for better use with torrents and have had no problems with getting this
> setup correctly but i am wondering if this is what is buggering up linux
> although I can't see why because in both cases when linux does it's dhcp
> communication with the router it fails and in the case of damn small linux
> distribution says the connection is not there or incompatible. Now as the
> only help I have found on this says it should just work I am stumped as to
> what could be wrong or how to fix it, I am using a dlink dsl 302g router
> and
> according to what I have read I should have no problems with this working
> with linux, dhcp should just pick up the ip address for me etc...
> Anyhow if some could help me it would be much appreciated bearing in mind
> that I am a reasonably competent windows user but completely lost with
> linux
> and don't want to have to learn a lot just to try linux out, of course if
> I
> can use it with web browsing and it works much faster than windows I may
> take a serious look at leaving windows behind which I would love to do
> right
> now but unfortunately it is never easy to take the road less travelled and
> this is what makes unattractive to a beginner, catch 22 I know.
>
>
Can't offer too much in the way of help other than to say that i have a
D-link 302G and have had several versions of Linux installed over the years
(Mandkrake, Suse, Red Hat, Ubuntu ) and have never had any problem
whatsoever. perhaps some of the Linux gurus can offer some advice?

Tony



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"HairyMcLeary" <> wrote in message
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>
> "analogman" <no@digital> wrote in message
news:45b9c059$...
> >I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no previous
> > linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as
> > been
> > the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the internet to
> > work
> > and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find the browser speed
> > frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e. Anyhow I have
> > broadband and for windows I have configured the router for port
forwarding
> > for better use with torrents and have had no problems with getting this
> > setup correctly but i am wondering if this is what is buggering up linux
> > although I can't see why because in both cases when linux does it's dhcp
> > communication with the router it fails and in the case of damn small
linux
> > distribution says the connection is not there or incompatible. Now as
the
> > only help I have found on this says it should just work I am stumped as
to
> > what could be wrong or how to fix it, I am using a dlink dsl 302g router
> > and
> > according to what I have read I should have no problems with this
working
> > with linux, dhcp should just pick up the ip address for me etc...
> > Anyhow if some could help me it would be much appreciated bearing in
mind
> > that I am a reasonably competent windows user but completely lost with
> > linux
> > and don't want to have to learn a lot just to try linux out, of course
if
> > I
> > can use it with web browsing and it works much faster than windows I may
> > take a serious look at leaving windows behind which I would love to do
> > right
> > now but unfortunately it is never easy to take the road less travelled
and
> > this is what makes unattractive to a beginner, catch 22 I know.
> >
> >
> Can't offer too much in the way of help other than to say that i have a
> D-link 302G and have had several versions of Linux installed over the
years
> (Mandkrake, Suse, Red Hat, Ubuntu ) and have never had any problem
> whatsoever. perhaps some of the Linux gurus can offer some advice?
>
> Tony
>

Thanks, that's good to confirm that it should work no problems, can you tell
me though if you had to configure anything or did it just work all by
itself?

analogman wrote:

> I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no previous
> linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as
> been the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the internet
> to work and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find the browser
> speed frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e. Anyhow I
> have broadband and for windows I have configured the router for port
> forwarding for better use with torrents and have had no problems with
> getting this setup correctly but i am wondering if this is what is
> buggering up linux although I can't see why because in both cases when
> linux does it's dhcp communication with the router it fails and in the
> case of damn small linux distribution says the connection is not there or
> incompatible. Now as the only help I have found on this says it should
> just work I am stumped as to what could be wrong or how to fix it, I am
> using a dlink dsl 302g router and according to what I have read I should
> have no problems with this working with linux, dhcp should just pick up
> the ip address for me etc... Anyhow if some could help me it would be much
> appreciated bearing in mind that I am a reasonably competent windows user
> but completely lost with linux and don't want to have to learn a lot just
> to try linux out, of course if I can use it with web browsing and it works
> much faster than windows I may take a serious look at leaving windows
> behind which I would love to do right now but unfortunately it is never
> easy to take the road less travelled and this is what makes unattractive
> to a beginner, catch 22 I know.

Best place to start is with your network. Do you normally setup your pc to
get its ip/network settings via dhcp?
Or are they statically set (ie. pc's ip, network mask, default gateway, and
DNS)
Also, which 'flavour' linux are you trying out on the livecd (this will help
people show you how to set the network up)

"Shane" <> wrote in message
news:epcgm7$mbd$...
> analogman wrote:
>
> > I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no
previous
> > linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as
> > been the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the internet
> > to work and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find the
browser
> > speed frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e. Anyhow I
> > have broadband and for windows I have configured the router for port
> > forwarding for better use with torrents and have had no problems with
> > getting this setup correctly but i am wondering if this is what is
> > buggering up linux although I can't see why because in both cases when
> > linux does it's dhcp communication with the router it fails and in the
> > case of damn small linux distribution says the connection is not there
or
> > incompatible. Now as the only help I have found on this says it should
> > just work I am stumped as to what could be wrong or how to fix it, I am
> > using a dlink dsl 302g router and according to what I have read I should
> > have no problems with this working with linux, dhcp should just pick up
> > the ip address for me etc... Anyhow if some could help me it would be
much
> > appreciated bearing in mind that I am a reasonably competent windows
user
> > but completely lost with linux and don't want to have to learn a lot
just
> > to try linux out, of course if I can use it with web browsing and it
works
> > much faster than windows I may take a serious look at leaving windows
> > behind which I would love to do right now but unfortunately it is never
> > easy to take the road less travelled and this is what makes unattractive
> > to a beginner, catch 22 I know.
>
> Best place to start is with your network. Do you normally setup your pc
to
> get its ip/network settings via dhcp?
> Or are they statically set (ie. pc's ip, network mask, default gateway,
and
> DNS)
> Also, which 'flavour' linux are you trying out on the livecd (this will
help
> people show you how to set the network up)

I only know that the distribution is damn small linux, I don't know what
flavour it is and am not even sure what you mean by this.
In windows I have the ip settings set statically but does this have anything
to do with what happens when I run linux, I have looked at the router config
in windows and the router seems to have dhcp enabled.

"Shane" <> wrote in message
news:epcgm7$mbd$...
> Also, which 'flavour' linux are you trying out on the livecd (this will
help
> people show you how to set the network up)

It appears to be mostly debian based.

analogman wrote:

>
> "Shane" <> wrote in message
> news:epcgm7$mbd$...
>> analogman wrote:
>>
>> > I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no
> previous
>> > linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as
>> > been the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the
>> > internet to work and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find
>> > the
> browser
>> > speed frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e. Anyhow I
>> > have broadband and for windows I have configured the router for port
>> > forwarding for better use with torrents and have had no problems with
>> > getting this setup correctly but i am wondering if this is what is
>> > buggering up linux although I can't see why because in both cases when
>> > linux does it's dhcp communication with the router it fails and in the
>> > case of damn small linux distribution says the connection is not there
> or
>> > incompatible. Now as the only help I have found on this says it should
>> > just work I am stumped as to what could be wrong or how to fix it, I am
>> > using a dlink dsl 302g router and according to what I have read I
>> > should have no problems with this working with linux, dhcp should just
>> > pick up the ip address for me etc... Anyhow if some could help me it
>> > would be
> much
>> > appreciated bearing in mind that I am a reasonably competent windows
> user
>> > but completely lost with linux and don't want to have to learn a lot
> just
>> > to try linux out, of course if I can use it with web browsing and it
> works
>> > much faster than windows I may take a serious look at leaving windows
>> > behind which I would love to do right now but unfortunately it is never
>> > easy to take the road less travelled and this is what makes
>> > unattractive to a beginner, catch 22 I know.
>>
>> Best place to start is with your network. Do you normally setup your pc
> to
>> get its ip/network settings via dhcp?
>> Or are they statically set (ie. pc's ip, network mask, default gateway,
> and
>> DNS)
>> Also, which 'flavour' linux are you trying out on the livecd (this will
> help
>> people show you how to set the network up)
>
> I only know that the distribution is damn small linux, I don't know what
> flavour it is and am not even sure what you mean by this.
> In windows I have the ip settings set statically but does this have
> anything to do with what happens when I run linux, I have looked at the
> router config in windows and the router seems to have dhcp enabled.

ok
In your windows network setup note down the following
(The names may be different as its been ages since I peed about with a
windows networking setup)

1a) The static IP
1b) Network Mask (only required if this is *not* 255.255.255.0 or
255.255.0.0 or 255.0.0.0
2) Default Gateway
3) Nameserver (or DNS settings)

When you run the linux, you can setup the network via the terminal
(commandline)
Im not familiar with DSL but there *may* be a GUI for doing the following,
at any rate:

(as root)
# ifconfig eth0 <static ip that windows has>
# route add default gw <Default Gateway IP>
# echo "nameserver <DNS IP>" >> /etc/resolv.conf

Obviously exchange your noted settings with the relevant <stuff>

When you have broken that let us know, or even if its successful

analogman wrote:
> "Shane" <> wrote in message
> news:epcgm7$mbd$...
>> analogman wrote:
>>
>>> I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no
> previous
>>> linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as
>>> been the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the internet
>>> to work and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find the
> browser
>>> speed frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e. Anyhow I
>>> have broadband and for windows I have configured the router for port
>>> forwarding for better use with torrents and have had no problems with
>>> getting this setup correctly but i am wondering if this is what is
>>> buggering up linux although I can't see why because in both cases when
>>> linux does it's dhcp communication with the router it fails and in the
>>> case of damn small linux distribution says the connection is not there
> or
>>> incompatible. Now as the only help I have found on this says it should
>>> just work I am stumped as to what could be wrong or how to fix it, I am
>>> using a dlink dsl 302g router and according to what I have read I should
>>> have no problems with this working with linux, dhcp should just pick up
>>> the ip address for me etc... Anyhow if some could help me it would be
> much
>>> appreciated bearing in mind that I am a reasonably competent windows
> user
>>> but completely lost with linux and don't want to have to learn a lot
> just
>>> to try linux out, of course if I can use it with web browsing and it
> works
>>> much faster than windows I may take a serious look at leaving windows
>>> behind which I would love to do right now but unfortunately it is never
>>> easy to take the road less travelled and this is what makes unattractive
>>> to a beginner, catch 22 I know.
>> Best place to start is with your network. Do you normally setup your pc
> to
>> get its ip/network settings via dhcp?
>> Or are they statically set (ie. pc's ip, network mask, default gateway,
> and
>> DNS)
>> Also, which 'flavour' linux are you trying out on the livecd (this will
> help
>> people show you how to set the network up)
>
> I only know that the distribution is damn small linux, I don't know what
> flavour it is and am not even sure what you mean by this.
> In windows I have the ip settings set statically but does this have anything
> to do with what happens when I run linux, I have looked at the router config
> in windows and the router seems to have dhcp enabled.
>
It should just work. If you have a proxy, you might have to set the
proxy details in the browser.

Cheers,

Cliff

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About Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:22:43 +1300, analogman wibbled of:

> "Shane" <> wrote in message
> news:epcgm7$mbd$...
>> Also, which 'flavour' linux are you trying out on the livecd (this will
> help
>> people show you how to set the network up)
>
> It appears to be mostly debian based.

Make sure you are using the ethernet port rather than the usb one, it
will be faster with 98 anyway and should just work with linux.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:48:44 +1300, "analogman" <no@digital>
exclaimed:

>I have recently tried out to live linux distributions, I have no previous
>linux experience so if anything goes wrong I am pretty stuffed such as been
>the case with both attempts, in both cases I can't get the internet to work
>and this is the main thing I want to try out as I find the browser speed
>frustratingly slow in win98se for both firefox and i.e.

Changing operating systems is VERY unlikely to affect the speed of
your internet connection noticably.


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