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~misfit~
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      11-23-2006
~misfit~ wrote:
> Thinking it may be caused by a Windows update I uninstalled the last
> 4 that were all installed on the same day, the day I restored the
> drive from the image. (The previous 4 updates are dated the same day
> I took the image, probably what prompted me to image the drive) When
> I restarted the PC again it seemed better, although there were still
> periods of traffic dropping off, then climbing again, at least it was
> climbing again. (For some reason my torrent traffic has often
> exhibited a cyclic trend, with an amplitude of around one minute,
> almost a sine wave, going right back to when I first discovered
> torrents). I went to bed and, this morning, find I've downloaded just
> over 1GB, all that I had queued. (Except one pesky torrent that stuck
> at 99.9%. Deleting and restarting the torrent doesn't fix it. Damn! I
> hate it when that happens)
> So I may have 'fixed' it, by uninstalling the last four updates. I'll
> find some more stuff that I want to download and I guess I'll have a
> better idea of whether it's 'fixed'. Sadly, now Windows is constantly
> telling me there are updates for my computer and I don't know which
> of the four it was (if it in fact was) so don't know which one/s to
> tick the "Don't remind me about this update again" box for.
>
> Fingers crossed that the problem has gone away. However, I'd like to
> know, if it was indeed one of these updates, (and it's begining to
> look like it was) which one it actually was.
>
> Watch this space I guess. Thanks for the suggestions.


Well, the uninstallation of the windows updates fixed it alright. I've
managed to download over 3GB in as many hours since uninstalling those
updates. I wish I knew which one caused it though, now I have Windows
telling me there are a whole bunch of updates and I'm too scared to install
any of them in case they kill my connection again.
--
Shaun.

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding"
Albert Einstein


 
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Rhino
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      11-23-2006
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:17:58 +1300, "~misfit~"
<> wrote:

>~misfit~ wrote:
>> Thinking it may be caused by a Windows update I uninstalled the last
>> 4 that were all installed on the same day, the day I restored the
>> drive from the image. (The previous 4 updates are dated the same day
>> I took the image, probably what prompted me to image the drive) When
>> I restarted the PC again it seemed better, although there were still
>> periods of traffic dropping off, then climbing again, at least it was
>> climbing again. (For some reason my torrent traffic has often
>> exhibited a cyclic trend, with an amplitude of around one minute,
>> almost a sine wave, going right back to when I first discovered
>> torrents). I went to bed and, this morning, find I've downloaded just
>> over 1GB, all that I had queued. (Except one pesky torrent that stuck
>> at 99.9%. Deleting and restarting the torrent doesn't fix it. Damn! I
>> hate it when that happens)
>> So I may have 'fixed' it, by uninstalling the last four updates. I'll
>> find some more stuff that I want to download and I guess I'll have a
>> better idea of whether it's 'fixed'. Sadly, now Windows is constantly
>> telling me there are updates for my computer and I don't know which
>> of the four it was (if it in fact was) so don't know which one/s to
>> tick the "Don't remind me about this update again" box for.
>>
>> Fingers crossed that the problem has gone away. However, I'd like to
>> know, if it was indeed one of these updates, (and it's begining to
>> look like it was) which one it actually was.
>>
>> Watch this space I guess. Thanks for the suggestions.

>
>Well, the uninstallation of the windows updates fixed it alright. I've
>managed to download over 3GB in as many hours since uninstalling those
>updates. I wish I knew which one caused it though, now I have Windows
>telling me there are a whole bunch of updates and I'm too scared to install
>any of them in case they kill my connection again.


Try installing them one at a time. Reboot and test your network
performance. This should show the guilty party quickly.

Cheers, Rhino
 
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~misfit~
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      11-23-2006
Rhino wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:17:58 +1300, "~misfit~"
> <> wrote:
>
> > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > Thinking it may be caused by a Windows update I uninstalled the
> > > last 4 that were all installed on the same day, the day I
> > > restored the drive from the image. (The previous 4 updates are
> > > dated the same day I took the image, probably what prompted me to
> > > image the drive) When I restarted the PC again it seemed better,
> > > although there were still periods of traffic dropping off, then
> > > climbing again, at least it was climbing again. (For some reason
> > > my torrent traffic has often exhibited a cyclic trend, with an
> > > amplitude of around one minute, almost a sine wave, going right
> > > back to when I first discovered torrents). I went to bed and,
> > > this morning, find I've downloaded just over 1GB, all that I had
> > > queued. (Except one pesky torrent that stuck at 99.9%. Deleting
> > > and restarting the torrent doesn't fix it. Damn! I hate it when
> > > that happens)
> > > So I may have 'fixed' it, by uninstalling the last four updates.
> > > I'll find some more stuff that I want to download and I guess
> > > I'll have a better idea of whether it's 'fixed'. Sadly, now
> > > Windows is constantly telling me there are updates for my
> > > computer and I don't know which of the four it was (if it in fact
> > > was) so don't know which one/s to tick the "Don't remind me about
> > > this update again" box for.
> > >
> > > Fingers crossed that the problem has gone away. However, I'd like
> > > to know, if it was indeed one of these updates, (and it's
> > > begining to look like it was) which one it actually was.
> > >
> > > Watch this space I guess. Thanks for the suggestions.

> >
> > Well, the uninstallation of the windows updates fixed it alright.
> > I've managed to download over 3GB in as many hours since
> > uninstalling those updates. I wish I knew which one caused it
> > though, now I have Windows telling me there are a whole bunch of
> > updates and I'm too scared to install any of them in case they kill
> > my connection again.

>
> Try installing them one at a time. Reboot and test your network
> performance. This should show the guilty party quickly.
>
> Cheers, Rhino


Yeah, that's the sensible thing to do. Heh, now there's 7 updates queued.
Bugger it.
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Shaun.

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding"
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Peter Huebner
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      11-23-2006
In article <ek3hsl$ffo$>,
says...
>
> Well, the uninstallation of the windows updates fixed it alright. I've
> managed to download over 3GB in as many hours since uninstalling those
> updates. I wish I knew which one caused it though, now I have Windows
> telling me there are a whole bunch of updates and I'm too scared to install
> any of them in case they kill my connection again.
>


Why bother? Installing SP2 screwed up my system very nicely. It also brought
tcp munging and DRM to my machine that I found annoying, to say the least (in
fact it felt like some uninvited bum had come and installed himself on my
living room couch to vet what I am watching on the video -- yukk!).
I uninstalled it, and I am still running SP1, and windows media player 2(!)
with no further Windows 'updates' planned to go on to my machine, period.
I run Sygate firewall pro, I run AVG_free virus scan and I've got all the
Windows services turned off that are notorious for causing problems (not that
intrusion attempts would likely get past the router/firewall in the first
place).

Only booger I had in the last 6 years was a virus that was contained in a zip
file I downloaded, and it never got executed before deletion. I reckon (going
on what I read) that MS Windows updates contain more 'payload' than they'll
prevent. No thanks.
(your problems being a case in question)

Meh.

-Peter

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Craig Shore
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      11-24-2006
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:17:58 +1300, "~misfit~" <>
wrote:

>Well, the uninstallation of the windows updates fixed it alright. I've
>managed to download over 3GB in as many hours since uninstalling those
>updates. I wish I knew which one caused it though, now I have Windows
>telling me there are a whole bunch of updates and I'm too scared to install
>any of them in case they kill my connection again.


My problem appears to be Azureus - I think. It did it again today for the first
time since posting that message, so I set Wireshark running.
There seems to be heaps of UDP traffic between it and a lot of other machines,
mostly just outgoing. There are some responses, and very few actual TCP
connections.

The weird thing is the modem light on the network switch isn't flashing crazy
like the computer one is when it happens.

Naa, I guess it could still be something else. In 2 hours it was only something
like 2mb of udp traffic.


 
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~misfit~
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      11-24-2006
Craig Shore wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:17:58 +1300, "~misfit~"
> <> wrote:
>
> > Well, the uninstallation of the windows updates fixed it alright.
> > I've managed to download over 3GB in as many hours since
> > uninstalling those updates. I wish I knew which one caused it
> > though, now I have Windows telling me there are a whole bunch of
> > updates and I'm too scared to install any of them in case they kill
> > my connection again.

>
> My problem appears to be Azureus - I think. It did it again today
> for the first time since posting that message, so I set Wireshark
> running.
> There seems to be heaps of UDP traffic between it and a lot of other
> machines, mostly just outgoing. There are some responses, and very
> few actual TCP connections.
>
> The weird thing is the modem light on the network switch isn't
> flashing crazy like the computer one is when it happens.
>
> Naa, I guess it could still be something else. In 2 hours it was only
> something like 2mb of udp traffic.


I'm using Azureus and I find it just fine. Those Windows updates, however,
weren't fine.
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Shaun.

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding"
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~misfit~
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      11-24-2006
Peter Huebner wrote:
> In article <ek3hsl$ffo$>,
> says...
> >
> > Well, the uninstallation of the windows updates fixed it alright.
> > I've managed to download over 3GB in as many hours since
> > uninstalling those updates. I wish I knew which one caused it
> > though, now I have Windows telling me there are a whole bunch of
> > updates and I'm too scared to install any of them in case they kill
> > my connection again.
> >

>
> Why bother? Installing SP2 screwed up my system very nicely. It also
> brought tcp munging and DRM to my machine that I found annoying, to
> say the least (in fact it felt like some uninvited bum had come and
> installed himself on my living room couch to vet what I am watching
> on the video -- yukk!).
> I uninstalled it, and I am still running SP1, and windows media
> player 2(!) with no further Windows 'updates' planned to go on to my
> machine, period.
> I run Sygate firewall pro, I run AVG_free virus scan and I've got all
> the Windows services turned off that are notorious for causing
> problems (not that intrusion attempts would likely get past the
> router/firewall in the first place).
>
> Only booger I had in the last 6 years was a virus that was contained
> in a zip file I downloaded, and it never got executed before
> deletion. I reckon (going on what I read) that MS Windows updates
> contain more 'payload' than they'll prevent. No thanks.
> (your problems being a case in question)
>
> Meh.


You have a good point Peter. I'm not downloading anymore updates on my
primary machine. I'm running PC-cillin Internet Security 2006 and it seems
pretty good. The router has some firewall capabilities as well.

Cheers,
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Shaun.

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding"
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      11-24-2006
In message <>, ~misfit~ wrote:

> So I may have 'fixed' it, by uninstalling the last four updates.


You're not supposed to do that. If you don't keep your Dimdows system
current with the latest updates, then Microsoft cannot guarantee that you
will enjoy the optimal Dimdows experience.
 
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