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What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
TV adverts at the moment.
They should instead spend the money on allowing their existing
customers to receive emails which ihug has delayed for days. Or maybe
the emails will never arrive, in which case they will very soon lose a
lot of customers. I see that ihug are allowing spam messages to get
through to their customers but not the messages that they actually want.

On 3 Nov 2006 00:03:53 -0800, "Matty F" <> wrote:

>What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
>TV adverts at the moment.

TV advertising is booked more than a week in advance.

"Matty F" <> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
> What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
> TV adverts at the moment.
> They should instead spend the money on allowing their existing
> customers to receive emails which ihug has delayed for days. Or maybe
> the emails will never arrive, in which case they will very soon lose a
> lot of customers. I see that ihug are allowing spam messages to get
> through to their customers but not the messages that they actually want.
>

I wonder if vodafone has paid for it yet. They may get a lot less customers
than they expected after these problems, combined with their crappy new
plans.

Matty F wrote:

> What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
> TV adverts at the moment.
> They should instead spend the money on allowing their existing
> customers to receive emails which ihug has delayed for days. Or maybe
> the emails will never arrive, in which case they will very soon lose a
> lot of customers. I see that ihug are allowing spam messages to get
> through to their customers but not the messages that they actually want.
>

I can receive email (a few, anyway) but I can't send. It asks for the
password for smtp.ihug.co.nz, but doesn't like the only password I'm
aware of (the main account password).

Matty F wrote:
> What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
> TV adverts at the moment.
> They should instead spend the money on allowing their existing
> customers to receive emails which ihug has delayed for days. Or maybe
> the emails will never arrive, in which case they will very soon lose a
> lot of customers. I see that ihug are allowing spam messages to get
> through to their customers but not the messages that they actually want.
>
Thats the way... Bitch now that spam has got to a level that the system
doesn't work.

You all should have known that it would come to this.

When I started pointing out that it would come to this several months
ago nobody gave a ****.

When I tried doing something about illegal meds sites all I got was ****.

When I called for the need to talk to the government about two criminal
spammers people just laughed.

Bleating your heads off is not going to make any difference.

Do you understand what needs to be done?

Write to your MP's and demand that something be done about
Alex Polyakov and Leo Kuvayev.

Point out that this man Ruslan Ibragimov is still selling his botnet
abusing software on send-safe.com.

Tell them that the botnet attacks on New Zealand IP space targeting
the ANZ bank are the work of the same gang.

Tell your friends to do the same.

If you sit around with your finger up you know where expect more of the
same.

Anony Mouse

Vista wrote:
> "Matty F" <> wrote in message
> news: oups.com...
>
>>What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
>>TV adverts at the moment.
>>They should instead spend the money on allowing their existing
>>customers to receive emails which ihug has delayed for days. Or maybe
>>the emails will never arrive, in which case they will very soon lose a
>>lot of customers. I see that ihug are allowing spam messages to get
>>through to their customers but not the messages that they actually want.
>>
>
>
> I wonder if vodafone has paid for it yet. They may get a lot less customers
> than they expected after these problems, combined with their crappy new
> plans.
>
>
Are you the same person that is active in nanae with this nick name?

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:21:50 +1300, Gib Bogle
<> wrote:

>Matty F wrote:
>
>> What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
>> TV adverts at the moment.
>> They should instead spend the money on allowing their existing
>> customers to receive emails which ihug has delayed for days. Or maybe
>> the emails will never arrive, in which case they will very soon lose a
>> lot of customers. I see that ihug are allowing spam messages to get
>> through to their customers but not the messages that they actually want.
>>
>
>I can receive email (a few, anyway) but I can't send. It asks for the
>password for smtp.ihug.co.nz, but doesn't like the only password I'm
>aware of (the main account password).

Several friends on different ISPs are telling me they are all getting
heaps of spam and legit emails are hours late arriving. Myself, I got
one just now 12 hours late.

"Anony Mouse" <> wrote in message
news:eif7ie$kf$...
> Matty F wrote:
>> What a bloody waste of time it is for ihug to have all those expensive
>> TV adverts at the moment.
>> They should instead spend the money on allowing their existing
>> customers to receive emails which ihug has delayed for days. Or maybe
>> the emails will never arrive, in which case they will very soon lose a
>> lot of customers. I see that ihug are allowing spam messages to get
>> through to their customers but not the messages that they actually want.
>>
> Thats the way... Bitch now that spam has got to a level that the system
> doesn't work.
>
> You all should have known that it would come to this.
>
> When I started pointing out that it would come to this several months ago
> nobody gave a ****.
>
> When I tried doing something about illegal meds sites all I got was ****.
>
> When I called for the need to talk to the government about two criminal
> spammers people just laughed.
>
> Bleating your heads off is not going to make any difference.
>
> Do you understand what needs to be done?
>
> Write to your MP's and demand that something be done about
> Alex Polyakov and Leo Kuvayev.
>
> Point out that this man Ruslan Ibragimov is still selling his botnet
> abusing software on send-safe.com.
>
> Tell them that the botnet attacks on New Zealand IP space targeting
> the ANZ bank are the work of the same gang.
>
> Tell your friends to do the same.
>
> If you sit around with your finger up you know where expect more of the
> same.
>
Unless those spamming are actually in NZ nothing can be done.

Anyway as the main problem spam bypassing the filters is image based then
better methods are needed to do the filtering. Maybe start by giving all
email without embedded images a higher priority on the mail server.

Craig Sutton wrote:

> Unless those spamming are actually in NZ nothing can be done.
>
> Anyway as the main problem spam bypassing the filters is image based then
> better methods are needed to do the filtering. Maybe start by giving all
> email without embedded images a higher priority on the mail server.

I don't know how easy it would be for NZ ISPs to do this, but here is
my suggestion:

1. Pass across emails to and from NZ servers immediately, if they pass
a simple spam check.
2. If any spam is sourced in NZ, prosecute the culprits and fine them
$100 per email.
3. Delay any emails from the countries that are known to be the worst
offenders. If hundreds of emails arrive together from one server, store
the whole lot and examine them, manually if necessary. If it's a block
of mass spam, delete them all and delay all messages from that server
even longer and notify that server administrator.

On 3 Nov 2006 05:56:48 -0800, Matty F wrote:

> Craig Sutton wrote:
>
>> Unless those spamming are actually in NZ nothing can be done.
>>
>> Anyway as the main problem spam bypassing the filters is image based then
>> better methods are needed to do the filtering. Maybe start by giving all
>> email without embedded images a higher priority on the mail server.
>
> I don't know how easy it would be for NZ ISPs to do this, but here is
> my suggestion:
>
> 1. Pass across emails to and from NZ servers immediately, if they pass
> a simple spam check.
> 2. If any spam is sourced in NZ, prosecute the culprits and fine them
> $100 per email.
> 3. Delay any emails from the countries that are known to be the worst
> offenders. If hundreds of emails arrive together from one server, store
> the whole lot and examine them, manually if necessary. If it's a block
> of mass spam, delete them all and delay all messages from that server
> even longer and notify that server administrator.

The filtering duty should be passed down to the recieving host machine.
This bottleneck is of their own making. They never used to filter at the
ISP level and unltimately they have compromised service in an effort to
improve it.