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steve
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      10-16-2006
There you have it.

Competing companies with proprietary offerings result in the consumer losing
out.

So the consumer by-passes the marketing-imposed bloackage.

These companies pursue their interests...and consumers respond in kind.

Predictable. Inevitable.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...usic-war_x.htm
 
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GraB
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      10-16-2006
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:11:00 +1300, steve <>
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>There you have it.
>
>Competing companies with proprietary offerings result in the consumer losing
>out.
>
>So the consumer by-passes the marketing-imposed bloackage.
>
>These companies pursue their interests...and consumers respond in kind.
>
>Predictable. Inevitable.
>
>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...usic-war_x.htm


Yes, it makes you want to walk away from it all, doesn't it?

A hifi shop manager told me that all these MP3 players have been bad
in the sense that people don't know how the music is meant to sound.
They only ever hear low bit-rate music on their cheap players and
think that is it. I recently heard such playing through a pair of
high quality speakers and it sounded awful, well below what the
speakers were capable of.

 
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Craig Shore
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      10-16-2006
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:00:58 +1300, GraB <> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:11:00 +1300, steve <>
>wrote:
>
>>There you have it.
>>
>>Competing companies with proprietary offerings result in the consumer losing
>>out.
>>
>>So the consumer by-passes the marketing-imposed bloackage.
>>
>>These companies pursue their interests...and consumers respond in kind.
>>
>>Predictable. Inevitable.
>>
>>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...usic-war_x.htm

>
>Yes, it makes you want to walk away from it all, doesn't it?
>
>A hifi shop manager told me that all these MP3 players have been bad
>in the sense that people don't know how the music is meant to sound.
>They only ever hear low bit-rate music on their cheap players and
>think that is it.


More likely most people just don't care what the sound quality is like.

What they do care about is when they swap hardware due to a fault or upgrade
that they no longer can play or own any of the music they have purchased.


 
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MarkH
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      10-16-2006
GraB <> wrote in
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> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:11:00 +1300, steve <>
> wrote:
>
>>There you have it.
>>
>>Competing companies with proprietary offerings result in the consumer
>>losing out.
>>
>>So the consumer by-passes the marketing-imposed bloackage.
>>
>>These companies pursue their interests...and consumers respond in
>>kind.
>>
>>Predictable. Inevitable.
>>
>>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...usic-war_x.htm

>
> Yes, it makes you want to walk away from it all, doesn't it?
>
> A hifi shop manager told me that all these MP3 players have been bad
> in the sense that people don't know how the music is meant to sound.
> They only ever hear low bit-rate music on their cheap players and
> think that is it. I recently heard such playing through a pair of
> high quality speakers and it sounded awful, well below what the
> speakers were capable of.


So how is this different from the previous situation where people listen to
music on a $5.95 radio and don't know how the music is meant to sound? Or
for that matter when people used tape players with dolby hiss reduction
that meant that all the higher frequencies were lost.

A while ago I tested the speakers built into my LCD monitor, I preferred
the sound from my $600 computer speakers - especially when using the
optical connection from my PC.

El Cheapo equipment has always given poor results and quality equipment has
always sounded so much better. Low bitrate music on cheap MP3 players is
no worse than other forms of cheap music players.

Generally I use 160k or better when playing music on my computer or from
MP3 CDs in my car. I can't tell the difference between playing an audio CD
and a good 192K MP3.


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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      10-16-2006
In message <>, steve wrote:

> There you have it.
>
> Competing companies with proprietary offerings result in the consumer
> losing out.
>
> So the consumer by-passes the marketing-imposed bloackage.
>
> These companies pursue their interests...and consumers respond in kind.
>
> Predictable. Inevitable.
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...usic-war_x.htm


Online service eMusic sells DRM-free songs from independent labels. It
has quietly become No. 2 to Apple in digital song sales with an 11%
share.

Yahoo, meanwhile, has experimented with two labels willing to try
selling non-copy-protected songs online.

Insteresting that e-Music single-handedly managed to surpass Microsoft's
entire "Plays For Sure" campaign. Wonder if that suggests there is no room
in the market for a second DRM-encumbered format, i.e. Zune?
 
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steve
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      10-17-2006
GraB wrote:

> A hifi shop manager told me that all these MP3 players have been bad
> in the sense that people don't know how the music is meant to sound.
> They only ever hear low bit-rate music on their cheap players and
> think that is it. I recently heard such playing through a pair of
> high quality speakers and it sounded awful, well below what the
> speakers were capable of.


I've seen a few examples of this, but where the song is on a CD of mine, I
rip it at a higher bit rate and improve the quality (for use on my own
compilation CDs - full of songs I have bought that I want to hear, in the
order I want to hear them).



 
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steve
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      10-17-2006
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Insteresting that e-Music single-handedly managed to surpass Microsoft's
> entire "Plays For Sure" campaign. Wonder if that suggests there is no room
> in the market for a second DRM-encumbered format, i.e. Zune?


I'm going to check out e-Music. Sounds like an idea worth supporting.



 
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Roger Johnstone
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      10-18-2006
In <> steve wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Insteresting that e-Music single-handedly managed to surpass
>> Microsoft's entire "Plays For Sure" campaign. Wonder if that suggests
>> there is no room in the market for a second DRM-encumbered format, i.
>> e. Zune?

>
> I'm going to check out e-Music. Sounds like an idea worth supporting.


They'd get a hell of a lot more customers, including myself, if they'd
dump the daft monthly subscription and just sell individual tracks.

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steve
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      10-18-2006
Roger Johnstone wrote:

> In <> steve wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Insteresting that e-Music single-handedly managed to surpass
>>> Microsoft's entire "Plays For Sure" campaign. Wonder if that suggests
>>> there is no room in the market for a second DRM-encumbered format, i.
>>> e. Zune?

>>
>> I'm going to check out e-Music. Sounds like an idea worth supporting.

>
> They'd get a hell of a lot more customers, including myself, if they'd
> dump the daft monthly subscription and just sell individual tracks.


Aaahhh...

I see.

Ta.

 
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