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So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging by
default in Vista <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.

What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux systems
than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For close
to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:51:11 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging by
> default in Vista <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>
> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux systems
> than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For close
> to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?



Lame troll get some new material ...


J

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging by
> default in Vista <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>
> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux systems
> than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For close
> to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?

I'm sure that the new filesystem (WinFS) will fix all those kinds of issues.

No, wait - hang on...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging by
> default in Vista <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>
> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux systems
> than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For close
> to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?
>
I never defrag these days. I've never noticed any difference.

Cheers,

Cliff

In message <>, Enkidu wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >
>> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging
>> by default in Vista
>> <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>>
>> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux
>> systems than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever.
>> For close to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by
>> it?
>
> I never defrag these days. I've never noticed any difference.

So another case of Microsoft scraping the bottom of the barrel, looking for
new features to add to Vista?

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging by
> default in Vista <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>
> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux systems
> than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For close
> to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?

A trolling we will go....

Scraping the bottom the barrel looking for ways to troll...

Nova wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic
>> defragging by
>> default in Vista
>> <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>>
>> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux
>> systems
>> than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For
>> close
>> to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?
>
> A trolling we will go....
>
> Scraping the bottom the barrel looking for ways to troll...

Have you investigated the facts before making that statement? I don't
think he's wrong, but I think you are. I'm not professing to be an
expert here, but Windows certainly does have it's failings in this
regard, but I think this is because of the file system it's using.
Perhaps someone else can comment on and elaborate on this, who knows the
technical details off hand.

Lawrence doesn't appear to be a dumbarse to me... but perhaps you can
draw your own conclusions by looking at his homepage...
http://www.geek-central.gen.nz/

Komrade Klark wrote:
> Nova wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic
>>> defragging by
>>> default in Vista
>>> <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>>>
>>> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux
>>> systems
>>> than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For
>>> close
>>> to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?
>>
>> A trolling we will go....
>>
>> Scraping the bottom the barrel looking for ways to troll...
>
> Have you investigated the facts before making that statement? I don't
> think he's wrong, but I think you are. I'm not professing to be an
> expert here, but Windows certainly does have it's failings in this
> regard, but I think this is because of the file system it's using.
> Perhaps someone else can comment on and elaborate on this, who knows the
> technical details off hand.
>
> Lawrence doesn't appear to be a dumbarse to me... but perhaps you can
> draw your own conclusions by looking at his homepage...
> http://www.geek-central.gen.nz/

I have no desire to look at that webpage, the second he wrote "dimdows"
was enough for me to draw my own conclusions about his motives for
posting his message. Anyone that can't even spell Windows or comes up
with what they think are funny names such as micro$soft or dimdows etc
is obviously just trolling. The whole defragging topic has been
thrashed to death yet we are lucky we have these *nix fanboys to keep
bringing up little things such as these. Anyway i was silly and took
the bait but I'll bow out now

I must say though, I use Windows and it has been years since I defragged
a drive, maybe in Windows 98 I did but haven't really felt the need for
a long time. There will always be people that want every bit of
optimisation and so will want to defrag things and at 4am on a sunday,
well who cares what the pc does if its even on that is .

take it easy

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:51:11 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<_zealand> wrote:

>So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging by
>default in Vista <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.
>
>What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux systems
>than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For close
>to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?

Most people think that defragging speeds up a modern computer. It
makes neglible difference due to the speed of modern drives.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> So Microsoft is mulling the possibility of enabling automatic defragging by
> default in Vista <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060720-7319.html>.

Windows Vista has defrag on by default

The article is a little incorrect, defrag in Vista doesn't effect user
experience because of Low Priority I/O

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/priorityio.mspx

Try doing a defrag on XP and using your PC for something else at the
same time

> What is this about Dimdows and fragmentation? I've set up more Linux systems
> than I can count, and I've never had to defrag any of them. Ever. For close
> to a decade now. Why does Dimdows continue to be impacted by it?