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http://tinyurl.com/h7hb6

So, when's our turn?

Mind you, the DMCA comes along with that so maybe not ...

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Hi there,

Aaron Lawrence wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/h7hb6

Nice. I'm running MythTV here, and will record and transcode
a few shows to DVD, so my Kiwi folks can see them. That makes
what I do (mostly) legal...

> So, when's our turn?

You mean you get a turn in NZ?

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On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:30:46 +1200, someone purporting to be Aaron
Lawrence didst scrawl:

> http://tinyurl.com/h7hb6
>
> So, when's our turn?
>
In progress, and has been since before the last election. Not sure why
it's taking so long.

> Mind you, the DMCA comes along with that so maybe not ...

One good reason not to get into FTA negotiations with the Yanks until
after the ink is dry on our changes. One of the conditions of the AUS-FTA
was that the Aussies not liberalise their copyright laws (which were even
more rigid than ours, and we're one of the most-curtailed nations on the
planet) without also legislating in the style of the fascism that is the
DMCA.

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Matthew Poole
"Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

Aaron Lawrence wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/h7hb6
>
> So, when's our turn?
>
> Mind you, the DMCA comes along with that so maybe not ...

I don't understand how products like iPods can be legally sold in NZ when
the very feature they provide is against the law. Sure, you could put your
own musical creations on there, but iPod marketing suggests you put
copyrighted material on there - which is illegal in NZ.

Allistar.

On Mon, 15 May 2006 13:52:49 +1200, someone purporting to be Allistar
didst scrawl:

> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/h7hb6
>>
>> So, when's our turn?
>>
>> Mind you, the DMCA comes along with that so maybe not ...
>
> I don't understand how products like iPods can be legally sold in NZ when
> the very feature they provide is against the law. Sure, you could put your
> own musical creations on there, but iPod marketing suggests you put
> copyrighted material on there - which is illegal in NZ.
>
Why are guns sold here? I mean, you might use one to murder someone, or in
the commission of a robbery.
That something MIGHT be used for an illegal purpose doesn't make the
product itself illegal. Also, you can legally buy MP3's off the 'net and
use them on an iPod, or you could find a music label that has a clue and
gives you explicit permission to convert their CD's to MP3 (or provides
MP3'd versions of the tracks). There are a number of ways in which you can
get music onto an iPod without breaking the law in any way.

--
Matthew Poole
"Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

Matthew Poole wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 13:52:49 +1200, someone purporting to be Allistar
> didst scrawl:
>
>> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/h7hb6
>>>
>>> So, when's our turn?
>>>
>>> Mind you, the DMCA comes along with that so maybe not ...
>> I don't understand how products like iPods can be legally sold in NZ when
>> the very feature they provide is against the law. Sure, you could put your
>> own musical creations on there, but iPod marketing suggests you put
>> copyrighted material on there - which is illegal in NZ.
>>
> Why are guns sold here? I mean, you might use one to murder someone, or in
> the commission of a robbery.
> That something MIGHT be used for an illegal purpose doesn't make the
> product itself illegal. Also, you can legally buy MP3's off the 'net and
> use them on an iPod, or you could find a music label that has a clue and
> gives you explicit permission to convert their CD's to MP3 (or provides
> MP3'd versions of the tracks). There are a number of ways in which you can
> get music onto an iPod without breaking the law in any way.
>

podcasts f'rinstance
Or thousands of netlabels with creative commons licensed content like
http://www.jamendo.com/uk/
http://www.oggfrog.com/music/
http://www.trotch.com/
http://publicdomain4u.com/
http://www.archive.org/details/audio
and many more

Personally I'll put whatever I want to on my ipod, its OUR culture, not
Sony's
Some great classic albums available here
http://www.demonoid.com/files/?categ...y=RS+500&uid=0