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"" Ballmer believes Microsoft can beat open source by ultimately proving
lower cost of ownership with its software. "It hard to beat open source on
initial cost of procurement; it is not hard to beat open source on total
cost of ownership," he said. ""

This article is just so histerically funny!

I know of companies that have whole IT departments that do almost nothing
other than cleaning up the shite that results from using M$ software - and
that is all a part of the Totel Cost of "Ownership" associated with using
M$ software.

Unix is rock solid. Micro$oft is squidgy shite!

And I notice that OpenSuSE 10.1 was released yesterday - on time. :-p


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

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1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:

> And I notice that OpenSuSE 10.1 was released yesterday - on time.

It wasn't released "on time" as there was never a scheduled release date
until a week before it was released.

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Chris Hope | www.electrictoolbox.com | www.linuxcdmall.com

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:


> Unix is rock solid. Micro$oft is squidgy shite!

Whilst I prefer Unix to Linux, and Linux to Microsoft products, *none* of
them are without issues, to pretend otherwise would make you...

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Chris Hope wrote:
> Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
>
>> And I notice that OpenSuSE 10.1 was released yesterday - on time.
>
> It wasn't released "on time" as there was never a scheduled release date
> until a week before it was released.
>
Damn cunning, those open source people

Now, why didn't they pre-announce it back in 2004, just to stop people
from downloading some other distribution?

-=rjh=- wrote:

> Chris Hope wrote:
>> Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
>>
>>> And I notice that OpenSuSE 10.1 was released yesterday - on time.
>>
>> It wasn't released "on time" as there was never a scheduled release
>> date until a week before it was released.
>>
> Damn cunning, those open source people
>
> Now, why didn't they pre-announce it back in 2004, just to stop people
> from downloading some other distribution?

It's quite interesting the way they do their development cycle. It goes
through alpha, beta then release candidate stages with several builds
at each stage that the general public can download and test should they
want to. Once it gets into beta and release candidate stage a build is
released every week.

I was expecting 10.1 to be released a week earlier than it was but they
decided to do a third release candidate so that pushed it back another
week and I didn't know until Monday if they were doing the final
release this week for sure.

I think the aim for SUSE is to release roughly every six months but it
took 8 months to get 10.1 out after 10.0.

--
Chris Hope | www.electrictoolbox.com | www.linuxcdmall.com

On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:09:25 +1200, Chris Hope wrote:

>> And I notice that OpenSuSE 10.1 was released yesterday - on time.
>
> It wasn't released "on time" as there was never a scheduled release date
> until a week before it was released.

So that means it WAS released on time - on the time they stated. It's just
that they didn't state when that would be until a week before it happened.
;o)

I'm already running KDE 3.5.2 on a fully patched SuSE 10.0 system, and so
I don't yet see any real advantage to moving over to useing SuSE 10.1 .


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:37:03 +1200, Chris Hope wrote:

> I think the aim for SUSE is to release roughly every six months but it
> took 8 months to get 10.1 out after 10.0.

Yeah.

Do you know if there is a torrent for a DVD ISO image of SuSE 10.1
available yet?

I prefer to download the DVD image rather than multiple CD images, and I
didn't see torrents for DVD images on the download page.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:22:48 +1200, Shane wrote:

>> Unix is rock solid. Micro$oft is squidgy shite!
>
> Whilst I prefer Unix to Linux, and Linux to Microsoft products, *none* of
> them are without issues, to pretend otherwise would make you...

True - there still are issues with *nix.

For example, it is difficult to get Samba to interface with M$ systems
without issues - mostly due to a complete lack of accurate documentation
of server APIs from Micro$oft.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:

> On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:37:03 +1200, Chris Hope wrote:
>
>> I think the aim for SUSE is to release roughly every six months but
>> it took 8 months to get 10.1 out after 10.0.
>
> Yeah.
>
> Do you know if there is a torrent for a DVD ISO image of SuSE 10.1
> available yet?

Not until Thursday. It is possible to build a DVD from the CD ISOs...

> I prefer to download the DVD image rather than multiple CD images, and
> I didn't see torrents for DVD images on the download page.

but obviously not something you want to do.

--
Chris Hope | www.electrictoolbox.com | www.linuxcdmall.com

On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:22:48 +1200, Shane wrote:

> Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
>
>
>> Unix is rock solid. Micro$oft is squidgy shite!
>
> Whilst I prefer Unix to Linux, and Linux to Microsoft products, *none* of
> them are without issues, to pretend otherwise would make you...

I think that Linux IS a version of Unix. It's just that (like IBM's z/OS)
it is a version of Unix that has not been derived from any of AT&T's
original (ss 3,4,5) Unixes, but it complies with the Open Group's Single
Unix Specification.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.