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Anyone in NZ get the info on this lawsuit?

www.epsonsettlement.com

First I knew about it was when I opened up mail regarding it this
morning.

Cath

texan wrote:

> Anyone in NZ get the info on this lawsuit?


Why is someone in Texas asking people in NZ about a lawsuit in
California?

> www.epsonsettlement.com

All the info appears to be on the website.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:41:32 -0700, Mike MacNabb wrote:

> Why is someone in Texas asking people in NZ about a lawsuit in
> California?

Not to mention the fact that this class action is only for residents of
the USA who purcahsed models of Epson printer that are available in the
USA.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

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texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit...usacom.. wrote:

> Anyone in NZ get the info on this lawsuit?
>
> www.epsonsettlement.com
>
> First I knew about it was when I opened up mail regarding it this
> morning.

It doesn't affect me, because as soon as I heard complaints of
this nature about Epson I vowed that I would never buy one of
their printers. There are plenty of other brands. It seems that
manufacturers need to learn the hard way that it doesn't pay to
cheat their customers.
-----------------------------
Among other things, Plaintiffs allege that Epson inkjet printers
and inkjet cartridges indicate that cartridges are "empty" and
suspend printer function, even though substantial ink remains.
EAI has denied and continues to deny the claims and any
wrongdoing, but has decided to settle to avoid the cost and
inconvenience of litigation. The Court has not issued any rulings
about the validity of the claims.

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:10:26 +1200, Have A Nice Cup of Tea <>
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:41:32 -0700, Mike MacNabb wrote:
>
>> Why is someone in Texas asking people in NZ about a lawsuit in
>> California?
>
>Not to mention the fact that this class action is only for residents of
>the USA who purcahsed models of Epson printer that are available in the
>USA.
>
>
>Have A Nice Cup of Tea

Ah, I have seen a couple of models when I was looking that were
available in NZ at the same time they were on the market here.
I was double checking comparing prices etc.

So Epson printers in NZ are superior to those we have here and have
never/do not have the same problem?

Cath

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:39:39 +1200, Matty F <>
wrote:

>texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit...usacom. . wrote:
>
>> Anyone in NZ get the info on this lawsuit?
>>
>> www.epsonsettlement.com
>>
>> First I knew about it was when I opened up mail regarding it this
>> morning.
>
>It doesn't affect me, because as soon as I heard complaints of
>this nature about Epson I vowed that I would never buy one of
>their printers. There are plenty of other brands. It seems that
>manufacturers need to learn the hard way that it doesn't pay to
>cheat their customers.
>-----------------------------
>Among other things, Plaintiffs allege that Epson inkjet printers
>and inkjet cartridges indicate that cartridges are "empty" and
>suspend printer function, even though substantial ink remains.
>EAI has denied and continues to deny the claims and any
>wrongdoing, but has decided to settle to avoid the cost and
>inconvenience of litigation. The Court has not issued any rulings
>about the validity of the claims.

I emailed several printer manufacturers after my first Epson went down
[replaced free of charge]. Unfortunately living miles away from
stores, I had to rely on internet sales.

What I didn't realise was just how few printers are on the market that
will print in black only without a colour cartridge being
installed/having colour ink in.

The two [then] HP models were too expensive for what I wanted the
printer for.

Cath

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:42:45 -0500, texan wrote:

>>Not to mention the fact that this class action is only for residents of
>>the USA who purcahsed models of Epson printer that are available in the
>>USA.
>
> Ah, I have seen a couple of models when I was looking that were
> available in NZ at the same time they were on the market here.
> I was double checking comparing prices etc.
>
> So Epson printers in NZ are superior to those we have here and have
> never/do not have the same problem?

What on earth are you talking about?

It is a class action suit for RESIDENTS OF THE USA against Epson America
Inc.

It was nice that you thought of NZers when you saw this, but did you go
and read the info on that website? It is legal action by Americans, for
American residents against an American company.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

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2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:45:13 -0500,
texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit...usacom.. wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:39:39 +1200, Matty F <>
>wrote:
>
>>texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit...usacom .. wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone in NZ get the info on this lawsuit?
>>>
>>> www.epsonsettlement.com
>>>
>>> First I knew about it was when I opened up mail regarding it this
>>> morning.
>>
>>It doesn't affect me, because as soon as I heard complaints of
>>this nature about Epson I vowed that I would never buy one of
>>their printers. There are plenty of other brands. It seems that
>>manufacturers need to learn the hard way that it doesn't pay to
>>cheat their customers.
>>-----------------------------
>>Among other things, Plaintiffs allege that Epson inkjet printers
>>and inkjet cartridges indicate that cartridges are "empty" and
>>suspend printer function, even though substantial ink remains.
>>EAI has denied and continues to deny the claims and any
>>wrongdoing, but has decided to settle to avoid the cost and
>>inconvenience of litigation. The Court has not issued any rulings
>>about the validity of the claims.
>
>I emailed several printer manufacturers after my first Epson went down
>[replaced free of charge]. Unfortunately living miles away from
>stores, I had to rely on internet sales.
>
>What I didn't realise was just how few printers are on the market that
>will print in black only without a colour cartridge being
>installed/having colour ink in.
>
>The two [then] HP models were too expensive for what I wanted the
>printer for.
>
>Cath

There are some very cheap laser printer around now. They would be
much cheaper to run too.

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:32:48 +1200, Have A Nice Cup of Tea <>
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:42:45 -0500, texan wrote:
>
>>>Not to mention the fact that this class action is only for residents of
>>>the USA who purcahsed models of Epson printer that are available in the
>>>USA.
>>
>> Ah, I have seen a couple of models when I was looking that were
>> available in NZ at the same time they were on the market here.
>> I was double checking comparing prices etc.
>>
>> So Epson printers in NZ are superior to those we have here and have
>> never/do not have the same problem?
>
>What on earth are you talking about?

You do have difficult in comprehending English at times don't you!
>
>It is a class action suit for RESIDENTS OF THE USA against Epson America
>Inc.
>
>It was nice that you thought of NZers when you saw this, but did you go
>and read the info on that website? It is legal action by Americans, for
>American residents against an American company.
>
>
>Have A Nice Cup of Tea

Oh dear, better go and make yourself a nice carpa tea....

Yes, it is an American lawsuit however, pray tell me, do the Epson
units in NZ suffer from the same 'troubles'? And if so, what if
anything has been done in NZ to take a class action lawsuit similar to
what was done here.

FYI, I knew nothing about it until I received the paperwar today.
Did I read the website - no, not yet....
I was curious with the time I had available this arvo to see if any
similar action was going on down there.

Cath

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:42:45 -0500, texan wrote:
>
>>> Not to mention the fact that this class action is only for residents of
>>> the USA who purcahsed models of Epson printer that are available in the
>>> USA.
>> Ah, I have seen a couple of models when I was looking that were
>> available in NZ at the same time they were on the market here.
>> I was double checking comparing prices etc.
>>
>> So Epson printers in NZ are superior to those we have here and have
>> never/do not have the same problem?
>
> What on earth are you talking about?
>
> It is a class action suit for RESIDENTS OF THE USA against Epson America
> Inc.
>
> It was nice that you thought of NZers when you saw this, but did you go
> and read the info on that website? It is legal action by Americans, for
> American residents against an American company.

Sometimes these class actions have implications for other countries, for
example the class action against Toshiba over the Tecra 8100 (and other
models) display problems resulted in the warranty being extended to
cover repairs until May this year, worldwide. NZers would be almost
certainly unaware that they qualified for this unless they were aware of
the class action.

Besides, if you don't like what Texan has said, and don't own an Epson
printer, well, hell - don't read the post.