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Hulloo Folks,

As I understand it, WinXP Pro (64bit) will run most 32bit software apps just
fine; but peripheral hardware - particularly PCI I/O cards - *must* have
64bit drivers. Is that right?

Reason for asking: I'm contemplating a new Intel rig based on the Abit
AW8-MAX mobo w/ 955x chipset. I'm thinking of loading the WinXP Pro (64bit)
OS on it but I need to keep hold of some older SCSI devices
(Jaz/Zip/Scanner) which currently are attached to a BusLogic FlashPoint PCI
adapter on this old HP Pavilion. The SCSI adapter and devices work perfectly
on this machine.

Since I've had no luck tracking down a 64bit BusLogic FlashPoint driver, I
fear I'll either have to:

a) forego 'transplanting' the current SCSI arrangement to the new machine,
or
b) fork out for a SCSI adapter whose driver is 64bit, or
c) drop back to WinXP - for which there exists a BusLogic FlashPoint driver

Anyone out there running WinXP Pro (64bit) - is there a Buslogic FlashPoint
file in that OS's driverbase?


Cheers, Tony McKee

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Wherethro' gleams that untravel'd world whose margins fade
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Tony McKee wrote:
> Hulloo Folks,
>
> As I understand it, WinXP Pro (64bit) will run most 32bit software apps just
> fine; but peripheral hardware - particularly PCI I/O cards - *must* have
> 64bit drivers. Is that right?

microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

Hello!

"Tony McKee" <> wrote in message news:QYK_f.12443$...
> Hulloo Folks,
>
> As I understand it, WinXP Pro (64bit) will run most 32bit software apps just
> fine; but peripheral hardware - particularly PCI I/O cards - *must* have
> 64bit drivers. Is that right?
>
> Reason for asking: I'm contemplating a new Intel rig based on the Abit
> AW8-MAX mobo w/ 955x chipset. I'm thinking of loading the WinXP Pro (64bit)
> OS on it but I need to keep hold of some older SCSI devices
> (Jaz/Zip/Scanner) which currently are attached to a BusLogic FlashPoint PCI
> adapter on this old HP Pavilion. The SCSI adapter and devices work perfectly
> on this machine.

How much memory will this workstation have. What will be its role - what applications
will be running on it?
If possible I recommend you to wait for 64-bit Windows Vista.

Regards, Roman

"roman modic" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello!
>
> "Tony McKee" <> wrote in message
news:QYK_f.12443$...
> > Hulloo Folks,
> >
> > As I understand it, WinXP Pro (64bit) will run most 32bit software apps
just
> > fine; but peripheral hardware - particularly PCI I/O cards - *must*
have
> > 64bit drivers. Is that right?
> >
> > Reason for asking: I'm contemplating a new Intel rig based on the Abit
> > AW8-MAX mobo w/ 955x chipset. I'm thinking of loading the WinXP Pro
(64bit)
> > OS on it but I need to keep hold of some older SCSI devices
> > (Jaz/Zip/Scanner) which currently are attached to a BusLogic FlashPoint
PCI
> > adapter on this old HP Pavilion. The SCSI adapter and devices work
perfectly
> > on this machine.
>
> How much memory will this workstation have. What will be its role - what
applications
> will be running on it?
> If possible I recommend you to wait for 64-bit Windows Vista.

Yo, Roman.

Yup, I could wait for Vista - and grow a long white beard during the usual
18 months or so after initial release before they iron out the inevitable
bugs. Sigh...

Memory will be 1Gb - to begin with anyway. Probably those Corsair TwinX dual
channel ones with the pretty lights!

Apps will be all the usual stuff associated with a household/small bizz PC -
but I want to do a lot of graphical/3D art work and video editing, and also
use it as a base for a modest home sound-recording studio (nothing too
fancy - just record some guitar with vocals, etc). Some networking will be
involved too - both local and via internet. I would consider any reliable
applications - esp. 64bit editions - that will get me there. Of course,
that's assuming I go with WinXP Pro (64bit) - or Vista.

A modest SATA RAID array would be handy in regard to data security.

However, the apps can wait a few months. Right now, I just want to get the
hardware/OS side sorted.

Couldn't give a toss about games or overclocking - hence not concerned with
SLI nor Crossfire. Just want a powerful, fast and relatively quiet
workhorse - and one with shiny new '64bit hooves' would be nice.


Cheers, Tony McKee

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---
I am a part of all that I have met... yet all experience is but an arch
Wherethro' gleams that untravel'd world whose margins fade
Forever and forever... 'ere I move.

===-- Ulysses --===

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:48:42 +1200, someone purporting to be Tony McKee
didst scrawl:

*SNIP*
> Reason for asking: I'm contemplating a new Intel rig based on the Abit
> AW8-MAX mobo w/ 955x chipset.
*SNIP*

Gotta ask, WHY Intel?! Do you like heating your home with your computer,
and adding extra zeroes to the bonuses of electricity company executives?

Seriously, there is nothing that Intel can offer right now, wrt 64-bit,
that AMD doesn't have beaten in spades. Core is still a dream
specification, and you're after a right-here, right-now construction.

--
Matthew Poole
"Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

Tony McKee wrote:
> Hulloo Folks,
>
> As I understand it, WinXP Pro (64bit) will run most 32bit software apps just
> fine; but peripheral hardware - particularly PCI I/O cards - *must* have
> 64bit drivers. Is that right?
>
> Reason for asking: I'm contemplating a new Intel rig based on the Abit
> AW8-MAX mobo w/ 955x chipset. I'm thinking of loading the WinXP Pro (64bit)
> OS on it but I need to keep hold of some older SCSI devices
> (Jaz/Zip/Scanner) which currently are attached to a BusLogic FlashPoint PCI
> adapter on this old HP Pavilion. The SCSI adapter and devices work perfectly
> on this machine.
>
> Since I've had no luck tracking down a 64bit BusLogic FlashPoint driver, I
> fear I'll either have to:
>
> a) forego 'transplanting' the current SCSI arrangement to the new machine,
> or
> b) fork out for a SCSI adapter whose driver is 64bit, or
> c) drop back to WinXP - for which there exists a BusLogic FlashPoint driver
>
> Anyone out there running WinXP Pro (64bit) - is there a Buslogic FlashPoint
> file in that OS's driverbase?
>
That's not a yes/no question. The OS wraps a 64bit, erm, wrapper around
stuff that has to use 32bit code. Consequently *some* software might
work OK, and other fussier stuff might not. I'd suspect that drivers as
such would be fussy, but a 32 bit card only understands 32 bit commands
so a 32 bit driver might work. However the driver ini files might
specify the particular version the driver for a particular OS, and the
64 bit OS won't be in the ini and it will not install. You might be able
to install a driver by hand, if you are adventurous enough.

Cheers,

Cliff

Hello Enkidu,

> That's not a yes/no question. The OS wraps a 64bit, erm, wrapper
> around stuff that has to use 32bit code. Consequently *some* software
> might work OK, and other fussier stuff might not.

as a general rule, what runs in user-land will be executed within something
called 'Windows on Windows 32' thus providing 32bit emulation. however stuff
that runs in kernal-land (drivers) MUST be compiled for 64bit architectures.

however, this goes out the door if you install a 32bit version of XP on that
64bit box. if you do this (IIRC only the AMD64 chip can do this) everything
will be 32bit.

in fact that could be a solution for you, if you dont want to wait untill
vista and dont *need* a 64bit OS just yet you could save your pennies towards
vista and use 32bit XP in the interrum.

the reason i am sudgesting this is because in Vista the 'sound stack' has
been re-written (yes from the ground up), the quality is far better (try
playing two sounds sampled at diffrent rates at the same time and you will
know what i mean), and your sound editing software could plug into the new
high fedideality [sic] sound engine - basically Vista will let software write
directly to the sound card DAC bypassing all the fancy-pants (delaying) stuff
that could happen to it on the way down to the metal.

plus all (well all but the bare bones) the sound stuff has been taken out
of the Kernal and now lives in user-space so you dont get the perf-hit of
data going through user-kernal modes untill the sound is going to hit the
metal.

----------------
Steven H

the madGeek

Tony McKee wrote:
> Hulloo Folks,
>
> As I understand it, WinXP Pro (64bit) will run most 32bit software apps just
> fine; but peripheral hardware - particularly PCI I/O cards - *must* have
> 64bit drivers. Is that right?
>


Yes, that's correct. Most 32-bit applications will work just fine,
although those that still have 16-bit installers won't even install, and
because many anti-virus applications use the equivalent of drivers, you
may need to find another AV solution. All hardware components *must*
have 64-bit drivers.


> Reason for asking: I'm contemplating a new Intel rig based on the Abit
> AW8-MAX mobo w/ 955x chipset. I'm thinking of loading the WinXP Pro (64bit)
> OS on it but I need to keep hold of some older SCSI devices
> (Jaz/Zip/Scanner) which currently are attached to a BusLogic FlashPoint PCI
> adapter on this old HP Pavilion. The SCSI adapter and devices work perfectly
> on this machine.
>
> Since I've had no luck tracking down a 64bit BusLogic FlashPoint driver, I
> fear I'll either have to:
>
> a) forego 'transplanting' the current SCSI arrangement to the new machine,
> or
> b) fork out for a SCSI adapter whose driver is 64bit, or
> c) drop back to WinXP - for which there exists a BusLogic FlashPoint driver
>
> Anyone out there running WinXP Pro (64bit) - is there a Buslogic FlashPoint
> file in that OS's driverbase?
>
>

Sorry, bad news, I think. The only SCSI controller that seems to be
included with the OS is something by Compaq. I guess no other
manufacturers bothered to provide Microsoft with any drivers for inclusion.


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"Bruce Chambers" <3t> wrote in message
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> Tony McKee wrote:

> > Anyone out there running WinXP Pro (64bit) - is there a Buslogic
FlashPoint
> > file in that OS's driverbase?
> >
> >
>
> Sorry, bad news, I think. The only SCSI controller that seems to be
> included with the OS is something by Compaq. I guess no other
> manufacturers bothered to provide Microsoft with any drivers for
inclusion.

Thanks for taking a look'see.

I'll put WinXP (standard) on the new rig for now, and when Vista is within
reach of my chubby wee paws, ditch all the 32bit legacy peripherals at the
knacker's yard, and thus significantly enlightened, bravely soar into the
64bit promised land!


Cheers, Tony McKee

--

---
I am a part of all that I have met... yet all experience is but an arch
Wherethro' gleams that untravel'd world whose margins fade
Forever and forever... 'ere I move.

===-- Ulysses --===

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:48:42 +1200, Tony McKee wrote:

> Since I've had no luck tracking down a 64bit BusLogic FlashPoint driver, I
> fear I'll either have to:
>
> a) forego 'transplanting' the current SCSI arrangement to the new machine,
> or
> b) fork out for a SCSI adapter whose driver is 64bit, or
> c) drop back to WinXP - for which there exists a BusLogic FlashPoint driver
>
> Anyone out there running WinXP Pro (64bit) - is there a Buslogic FlashPoint
> file in that OS's driverbase?

Or you could install a 64bit OS that DOES work on that hardware and DOES
run both 64bit AND 32bit programmes, and automatically detects
your hardware and installs the necessary drivers. And each revision of the
distribution also updates the collection of drivers, and for which a huge
collection of native 64bit programmes already exists.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

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