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Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:02:50 +1200, Fishb8 wrote:
>
>> My download manager keeps popping up with a download request for a dodgy
>> file from
>> http://www.impotato.com/a412/shed1.php?m=1&b=779&c=1
>> the file is:-
>> wdinit64.exe. Done a Google and got no info.
>> How do I identify and remove the source of the requester?
>
> If you are running M$ Windows this sort of thing is normal.

Rubbish!

Fishb8 wrote:
> "Dave Taylor" <> wrote in message
> news:Xns978BBA05E65D8daveytaynospamplshot@203.97.3 7.6...
>> "Fishb8" <> wrote in news:JJ4Tf.7082$JZ1.248853
>> @news.xtra.co.nz:
>>
>>> My download manager keeps popping up with a download request for a dodgy
>>> file from
>>> http://www.impotato.com/a412/shed1.php?m=1&b=779&c=1
>>> the file is:-
>>> wdinit64.exe. Done a Google and got no info.
>>> How do I identify and remove the source of the requester?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Your machine is likely infected with a trojan.
>> http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/
>> a-squared (a-squared) is a complementary product to antivirus software and
>> desktop firewalls on MS Windows computers. Antivirus software specializes
>> in detecting classic viruses. Many available products have weaknesses in
>> detecting other malicious software (Malware) like Trojans, Dialers, Worms
>> and Spyware (Adware). a-squared fills the gap that malware writers
>> exploit.
>>
>> You have up to date and working antivirus right?
>> No, then get Avast.
>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ciao, Dave
> Thanks everyone, especially Dave.
> Installed A Squared and found a Trojan that my AV and Spyware missed. Teach
> me to visit dodgy sites and try to find serials!

Or to keep Windows up to date.

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:11:59 +1200, Waylon Kenning wrote:
>
>> Bare in mind it doesn't stop all, that's where your
>> anti-virus software comes in handy.
>
> Firefox will only automatically install software if you have explicitly
> told it to do so.
>
> And we all know that having it set like that is a very microsoft thing to
> do.

That switch has to be enabled to install any updates or extensions
including links you click on in Mozilla's own website.

Otherwise they can't be installed at all.

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:14:14 +1200, Fishb8 wrote:
>
>> Installed A Squared and found a Trojan that my AV and Spyware missed. Teach
>> me to visit dodgy sites and try to find serials!
>
> That's what you get for using Micro$oft Windows, and Micro$oft Internet
> Explorer and Micro$oft Outlook/Express.

No, it's what you get on ANY OPERATING SYSTEM when security holes are
not patched.

Since Windows will update itself automatically, it is strange that
people don't make use of this capability.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:58:24 +1200, Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:

> Firefox will only automatically install software if you have explicitly
> told it to do so.

Dude, last time I checked Firefox also uses Javascript. Been plenty of
times I've visited a website with FF and the Javascript on the page
attempted to do nasty things. Luckily, AntiVir caught said JS, and gave me
the option to delete it.

While not the drive by install you were thinking of, same end result.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:44:37 +1200, SchoolTech wrote:

>> Firefox will only automatically install software if you have explicitly
>> told it to do so.
>>
>> And we all know that having it set like that is a very microsoft thing to
>> do.
>
> That switch has to be enabled to install any updates or extensions
> including links you click on in Mozilla's own website.
>
> Otherwise they can't be installed at all.

Rubbish!

All you have to do is to download the update to your computer, and open it
from within firefox.

That switch prevents AUTOMATIC installations.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
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One Resolver to find them,
One IP to bring them all
And in the Zone to Bind them.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:45:37 +1200, SchoolTech wrote:

>>> Installed A Squared and found a Trojan that my AV and Spyware missed.
>>> Teach me to visit dodgy sites and try to find serials!
>>
>> That's what you get for using Micro$oft Windows, and Micro$oft Internet
>> Explorer and Micro$oft Outlook/Express.
>
> No, it's what you get on ANY OPERATING SYSTEM when security holes are
> not patched.

That is what you can get on Micro$oft Windows even when it has been fully
patched!


> Since Windows will update itself automatically, it is strange that
> people don't make use of this capability.

But people DO use that security hole to give the most untrustworthy of all
IT companies complete carte blanche.

Remember - a M$ Windows computer with automatic updating enabled is
owned by Micro$oft, and it can install whatever it likes on "your"
computer!

If you want a computer that does not automatically installing stuff behind
your back then you will use any variety of *nix.


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
One Unix to rule them all,
One Resolver to find them,
One IP to bring them all
And in the Zone to Bind them.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:01:36 +1200, Waylon Kenning wrote:

> Dude, last time I checked Firefox also uses Javascript. Been plenty of
> times I've visited a website with FF and the Javascript on the page
> attempted to do nasty things. Luckily, AntiVir caught said JS, and gave me
> the option to delete it.

Facinating!

Which websites would these be?


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
One Unix to rule them all,
One Resolver to find them,
One IP to bring them all
And in the Zone to Bind them.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:18:31 +1200, Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:01:36 +1200, Waylon Kenning wrote:
>
>> Dude, last time I checked Firefox also uses Javascript. Been plenty of
>> times I've visited a website with FF and the Javascript on the page
>> attempted to do nasty things. Luckily, AntiVir caught said JS, and gave me
>> the option to delete it.
>
> Facinating!
>
> Which websites would these be?
>

From what I read in magazines, the only sites that try to install crap
like that are porn and pirate sites...Stay away from them and you won't
have the problem whatever the software.

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:45:37 +1200, SchoolTech wrote:
>
>>>> Installed A Squared and found a Trojan that my AV and Spyware missed.
>>>> Teach me to visit dodgy sites and try to find serials!
>>> That's what you get for using Micro$oft Windows, and Micro$oft Internet
>>> Explorer and Micro$oft Outlook/Express.
>> No, it's what you get on ANY OPERATING SYSTEM when security holes are
>> not patched.
>
> That is what you can get on Micro$oft Windows even when it has been fully
> patched!
>
Nonsense. He mentioned finding serials, I'm willing to bet he downloaded
some sort of executable and WILLINGLY executed it thinking it was a
crack/keygen/whatever. If it had been a linux-compatible executable, you
could have done exactly the same. The only reason it wasn't is because
noone uses linux so there would have been no point. And you can go on
about using not running as administrator etc etc, but to me my files are
much more valuable than the system; that can be reinstalled (of course I
back my files up, but I'm more worried that someone else might obtain
them through a trojan or whatever). The only way to prevent this would
be to block execution of any program outside the system directory (ie.
not pre-approved by the administrator) and maybe that is practical for a
business machine (where they want to control what employees can do), but
definitely not for a home machine used by one person.
>
>> Since Windows will update itself automatically, it is strange that
>> people don't make use of this capability.
>
> But people DO use that security hole to give the most untrustworthy of all
> IT companies complete carte blanche.
>
> Remember - a M$ Windows computer with automatic updating enabled is
> owned by Micro$oft, and it can install whatever it likes on "your"
> computer!

Umm, you paid Microsoft for the privilege of installing windows on your
machine. Chances are you also want the updates they offer.
>
> If you want a computer that does not automatically installing stuff behind
> your back then you will use any variety of *nix.
>
I set windows update to prompt me when new updates are available. This
way I can look through a list, tick the ones I want and hit install,
when I want. Windows Update is in no way compulsory or even enabled by
default.
>
> Have A Nice Cup of Tea
>