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stuffthis
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      03-13-2006
The online digital photo processing lab call digitalmax are less than
upfront about what they do in the processing of your photo's, they in fact
compress your photo's so the file size is about 1/2 of the original size
which of course results in a loss of quality but nowhere on their site does
it tell you that they do this and if you ask them about it they will tell
you that it makes no difference to the quality of the photo. There own
webpage says the following - Do not compress your images
We recommend that you do not resize or reduce the resolution of your images
before sending them to be printed. Use the print wizard to print from those
images directly produced from your digital camera. Many digital cameras come
with photo editing software, or you may have purchased one of the popular
photo editing programs for manipulating and enhancing your images.
Unfortunately, you can unknowingly decrease the quality of your images. This
is due to the software using JPEG (or JPG) format to save images. JPEG is
known as a "lossy" compression because image quality degrades every time you
re-save an image in this format. If you do repeated edits, your image may
become useless for printing.

But yet digitalmax compress your photo's for you. You can prove this for
yourself by using their photo upload software, when you go to upload the
photo's you will see that the file size is a lot less than the original. Are
they breaking some sort of law with this misleading practice?

On the other hand the frogprints online developer seems to indicate quite
clearly that they do not compress your photo's and they also give a thorough
explanation of compression etc...


 
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      03-13-2006

"stuffthis" <stuff@stuffed> wrote in message news:4414f2a6$...
> The online digital photo processing lab call digitalmax are less than
> upfront about what they do in the processing of your photo's, they in fact
> compress your photo's so the file size is about 1/2 of the original size
> which of course results in a loss of quality but nowhere on their site
> does
> it tell you that they do this and if you ask them about it they will tell
> you that it makes no difference to the quality of the photo. There own
> webpage says the following - Do not compress your images
> We recommend that you do not resize or reduce the resolution of your
> images
> before sending them to be printed. Use the print wizard to print from
> those
> images directly produced from your digital camera. Many digital cameras
> come
> with photo editing software, or you may have purchased one of the popular
> photo editing programs for manipulating and enhancing your images.
> Unfortunately, you can unknowingly decrease the quality of your images.
> This
> is due to the software using JPEG (or JPG) format to save images. JPEG is
> known as a "lossy" compression because image quality degrades every time
> you
> re-save an image in this format. If you do repeated edits, your image may
> become useless for printing.
>
> But yet digitalmax compress your photo's for you. You can prove this for
> yourself by using their photo upload software, when you go to upload the
> photo's you will see that the file size is a lot less than the original.
> Are
> they breaking some sort of law with this misleading practice?
>
> On the other hand the frogprints online developer seems to indicate quite
> clearly that they do not compress your photo's and they also give a
> thorough
> explanation of compression etc...
>
>


you get what you pay for generally - are digitalmax cheaper than frogprints?
From you description I would tend to think so.


 
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      03-13-2006

"stuffthis" <stuff@stuffed> wrote in message news:4414f2a6$...
> The online digital photo processing lab call digitalmax are less than
> upfront about what they do in the processing of your photo's, they in fact


And so on......

Ive used Digital Max many times and have had no complaints in the quality of
their work.
Compression in images, then printed by Digital Max, is not noticable at all
in the prints Ive had done.

Im not looking at changing the company I use based on your post.


 
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Nova
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      03-13-2006
stuffthis wrote:
> The online digital photo processing lab call digitalmax are less than
> upfront about what they do in the processing of your photo's, they in fact
> compress your photo's so the file size is about 1/2 of the original size
> which of course results in a loss of quality but nowhere on their site does
> it tell you that they do this and if you ask them about it they will tell
> you that it makes no difference to the quality of the photo. There own
> webpage says the following - Do not compress your images
> We recommend that you do not resize or reduce the resolution of your images
> before sending them to be printed. Use the print wizard to print from those
> images directly produced from your digital camera. Many digital cameras come
> with photo editing software, or you may have purchased one of the popular
> photo editing programs for manipulating and enhancing your images.
> Unfortunately, you can unknowingly decrease the quality of your images. This
> is due to the software using JPEG (or JPG) format to save images. JPEG is
> known as a "lossy" compression because image quality degrades every time you
> re-save an image in this format. If you do repeated edits, your image may
> become useless for printing.
>
> But yet digitalmax compress your photo's for you. You can prove this for
> yourself by using their photo upload software, when you go to upload the
> photo's you will see that the file size is a lot less than the original. Are
> they breaking some sort of law with this misleading practice?
>
> On the other hand the frogprints online developer seems to indicate quite
> clearly that they do not compress your photo's and they also give a thorough
> explanation of compression etc...
>
>


Perhaps it is because NZ has such lame "broadband" and uploading photos
at 128kbits takes forever. I do agree they should tell people that they
compress the pictures but it is probably do cut down the upload time
which is already slow enough at 128kbits..

 
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Zonky
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      03-13-2006
"stuffthis" <stuff@stuffed> wrote in news:4414f2a6$:

> But yet digitalmax compress your photo's for you. You can prove this
> for yourself by using their photo upload software, when you go to
> upload the photo's you will see that the file size is a lot less than
> the original. Are they breaking some sort of law with this misleading
> practice?


Thank god for it though. Don't see the point of uploading 8 megapixel pics
from my canon for a simple 6x4. Have ordered some large enlargements;
interested to see how these come out. Will post when picked up tomorrow.

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      03-13-2006

"news.xtra.co.nz" <> wrote in message
news:Cv6Rf.5897$...
>
> "stuffthis" <stuff@stuffed> wrote in message

news:4414f2a6$...
> > The online digital photo processing lab call digitalmax are less than
> > upfront about what they do in the processing of your photo's, they in

fact
> > compress your photo's so the file size is about 1/2 of the original size
> > which of course results in a loss of quality but nowhere on their site
> > does
> > it tell you that they do this and if you ask them about it they will

tell
> > you that it makes no difference to the quality of the photo. There own
> > webpage says the following - Do not compress your images
> > We recommend that you do not resize or reduce the resolution of your
> > images
> > before sending them to be printed. Use the print wizard to print from
> > those
> > images directly produced from your digital camera. Many digital cameras
> > come
> > with photo editing software, or you may have purchased one of the

popular
> > photo editing programs for manipulating and enhancing your images.
> > Unfortunately, you can unknowingly decrease the quality of your images.
> > This
> > is due to the software using JPEG (or JPG) format to save images. JPEG

is
> > known as a "lossy" compression because image quality degrades every time
> > you
> > re-save an image in this format. If you do repeated edits, your image

may
> > become useless for printing.
> >
> > But yet digitalmax compress your photo's for you. You can prove this for
> > yourself by using their photo upload software, when you go to upload the
> > photo's you will see that the file size is a lot less than the original.
> > Are
> > they breaking some sort of law with this misleading practice?
> >
> > On the other hand the frogprints online developer seems to indicate

quite
> > clearly that they do not compress your photo's and they also give a
> > thorough
> > explanation of compression etc...
> >
> >

>
> you get what you pay for generally - are digitalmax cheaper than

frogprints?
> From you description I would tend to think so.
>


Yeah sure but the average joe would not realise that they are getting
compressed photo's, if digitalmax were up front about it I would obviously
see no problem, as it is people will be comparing apples with apples when
they should be comparing apples with oranges which i guess is what
digitalmax want.


 
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"XPD" <....nz> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "stuffthis" <stuff@stuffed> wrote in message

news:4414f2a6$...
> > The online digital photo processing lab call digitalmax are less than
> > upfront about what they do in the processing of your photo's, they in

fact
>
> And so on......
>
> Ive used Digital Max many times and have had no complaints in the quality

of
> their work.
> Compression in images, then printed by Digital Max, is not noticable at

all
> in the prints Ive had done.
>
> Im not looking at changing the company I use based on your post.
>


Good for you.


 
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"Nova" <> wrote in message news:...
> stuffthis wrote:
> > The online digital photo processing lab call digitalmax are less than
> > upfront about what they do in the processing of your photo's, they in

fact
> > compress your photo's so the file size is about 1/2 of the original size
> > which of course results in a loss of quality but nowhere on their site

does
> > it tell you that they do this and if you ask them about it they will

tell
> > you that it makes no difference to the quality of the photo. There own
> > webpage says the following - Do not compress your images
> > We recommend that you do not resize or reduce the resolution of your

images
> > before sending them to be printed. Use the print wizard to print from

those
> > images directly produced from your digital camera. Many digital cameras

come
> > with photo editing software, or you may have purchased one of the

popular
> > photo editing programs for manipulating and enhancing your images.
> > Unfortunately, you can unknowingly decrease the quality of your images.

This
> > is due to the software using JPEG (or JPG) format to save images. JPEG

is
> > known as a "lossy" compression because image quality degrades every time

you
> > re-save an image in this format. If you do repeated edits, your image

may
> > become useless for printing.
> >
> > But yet digitalmax compress your photo's for you. You can prove this for
> > yourself by using their photo upload software, when you go to upload the
> > photo's you will see that the file size is a lot less than the original.

Are
> > they breaking some sort of law with this misleading practice?
> >
> > On the other hand the frogprints online developer seems to indicate

quite
> > clearly that they do not compress your photo's and they also give a

thorough
> > explanation of compression etc...
> >
> >

>
> Perhaps it is because NZ has such lame "broadband" and uploading photos
> at 128kbits takes forever. I do agree they should tell people that they
> compress the pictures but it is probably do cut down the upload time
> which is already slow enough at 128kbits..


I'm only on 56kbit dialup but I would still prefer to upload my photos at
full quality, it still is going to take a long time even when they have been
compressed, so what's the difference, it's not like i am sitting there
waiting for the upload to complete.


 
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"Zonky" <zonky@my_pants.dialup-web.net> wrote in message
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> "stuffthis" <stuff@stuffed> wrote in news:4414f2a6$:
>
> > But yet digitalmax compress your photo's for you. You can prove this
> > for yourself by using their photo upload software, when you go to
> > upload the photo's you will see that the file size is a lot less than
> > the original. Are they breaking some sort of law with this misleading
> > practice?

>
> Thank god for it though. Don't see the point of uploading 8 megapixel pics
> from my canon for a simple 6x4. Have ordered some large enlargements;
> interested to see how these come out. Will post when picked up tomorrow.
>


But I'm only using a 3.2 megapixel which is only barely adequate as it is so
I don't want any degrade in quality.


 
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El Penguino
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      03-13-2006
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:18:22 +1300, "stuffthis" <stuff@stuffed> wrote:

<SNIP>
I havent used the online service but I did just get 100 photos @ 32c
each done from a CD via one of their agencies.
Took a coupla days and turned out fine.
Waaaaaaay cheaper than camera house, so I am trilled.

FWIW.

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