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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...129TX1K0000535


After taking off the corset (DRM), and the glass eye out (the glitsy new
GUI) and all the multiple other features that have already been dumped
from M$ Windows Longhorn in order to get M$ Windows Vi$ta out to OEM
manufacturers in Q4 2006, M$ has now cut out support for the Extensible
Firmware Interface.

What genuinely useful new feature will be left in M$ Windows Vi$ta that
was not already in M$ WindowsXP and is not already implemented in a Linux
desktop?

Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

"Have A Nice Cup of Tea" <> wrote in message
news...
> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...129TX1K0000535
>
>
> After taking off the corset (DRM), and the glass eye out (the glitsy new
> GUI) and all the multiple other features that have already been dumped
> from M$ Windows Longhorn in order to get M$ Windows Vi$ta out to OEM
> manufacturers in Q4 2006, M$ has now cut out support for the Extensible
> Firmware Interface.
>
> What genuinely useful new feature will be left in M$ Windows Vi$ta that
> was not already in M$ WindowsXP and is not already implemented in a Linux
> desktop?
>
> Have A Nice Cup of Tea
>
> --
> 1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is
> forever.
> 2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
> 3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.
>

They do have to get the software out there though, as it has been such a
long time since they released a new windows operating system. It is better
that they don't include something that is buggy, then include it, and they
can always add it later in a service pack.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:03:24 +1300, Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:

> What genuinely useful new feature will be left in M$ Windows Vi$ta that
> was not already in M$ WindowsXP and is not already implemented in a Linux
> desktop?

The version number, as in *I* have the latest.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:16:00 +1300, Vista wrote:

> They do have to get the software out there though, as it has been such a
> long time since they released a new windows operating system. It is better
> that they don't include something that is buggy, then include it, and they
> can always add it later in a service pack.

Proof reader, come here and look at this.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:20:24 +1300, Gordon wrote:

>> What genuinely useful new feature will be left in M$ Windows Vi$ta that
>> was not already in M$ WindowsXP and is not already implemented in a Linux
>> desktop?
>
> The version number, as in *I* have the latest.

LOLOL!

Nice! It will have the "keeping up with the Joneses" factor. )

That's a lot of money for just that ;o)


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:22:08 +1300, Gordon wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:16:00 +1300, Vista wrote:
>
>> They do have to get the software out there though, as it has been such a
>> long time since they released a new windows operating system. It is better
>> that they don't include something that is buggy, then include it, and they
>> can always add it later in a service pack.
>
> Proof reader, come here and look at this.

LOL. "... better that they don't include something that is buggy, then
include it ... later in a service pack"

LOL!


Have A Nice Cup of Tea

--
1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

"Have A Nice Cup of Tea" <> wrote in message
news...
> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...129TX1K0000535
>
>
> After taking off the corset (DRM), and the glass eye out (the glitsy new
> GUI) and all the multiple other features that have already been dumped
> from M$ Windows Longhorn in order to get M$ Windows Vi$ta out to OEM
> manufacturers in Q4 2006, M$ has now cut out support for the Extensible
> Firmware Interface.
>
> What genuinely useful new feature will be left in M$ Windows Vi$ta that
> was not already in M$ WindowsXP and is not already implemented in a Linux
> desktop?
>
> Have A Nice Cup of Tea
>
> --
> 1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is
> forever.
> 2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
> 3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.
>

Please refrain from inserting the $, it embarrasses you.

Have A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:

> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...129TX1K0000535
>
> After taking off the corset (DRM), and the glass eye out (the glitsy new

I keep hearing all this FUD about DRM support in Windows Vista.
Microsoft Vista big brother, conspiracy theory etc are all words that
get thrown around.

Vista supports DRM but does NOT require it

Perhaps everyone is just jumping on the bandwagon without understanding
the facts. Maybe getting confused between DRM and encryption. Windows
Vista includes a better version of the Encrypting File System (EFS) but
more importantly includes the BitLocker Drive Encryption (of the entire
system volume) feature so businesses can mitigate information
disclosure risks when people lose their laptops via theft, or by
leaving in the back of taxis. You can store your private keys for BDE
in a TPM chip or on a USB flash disk

Regarding DRM, people use Windows Media Player, iTunes, DVD decoders
etc etc today without complaining about DRM. Windows Vista does
support a new feature called High Def Content Protection (HDCP) which
will reduce the resolution of the output (typically from a DVD or BD
disk) if your hardware/software doesn't support HDCP. There will be no
getting around this, if you want to watch high def, the
hardware/software needs to support HDCP. This is probably where the
FUD around Windows Vista "requiring you to buy a new monitor" comes
from. HD-DVD and BlueRay implementations support HDCP, and so does
Vista. Other OSes that want to support those formats, will do so as
well - if you want to watch the high def content you need a monitor
that support HDCP. You are no worse off that how you are today.

> GUI) and all the multiple other features that have already been dumped
> from M$ Windows Longhorn in order to get M$ Windows Vi$ta out to OEM
> manufacturers in Q4 2006, M$ has now cut out support for the Extensible
> Firmware Interface.

EFI support doesn't seem to be high on the Windows feature list for
users that I have spoken to

> What genuinely useful new feature will be left in M$ Windows Vi$ta that
> was not already in M$ WindowsXP and is not already implemented in a Linux
> desktop?

Where do you start?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/default.mspx

how about External Memory Devices
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...rformance.mspx

Hybrid Hard Drives

Family safety settings/parental controls
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...me/safety.mspx

USB device control (stop users writing YOUR content to THEIR iPods
"podslurping", USB flash devices etc)

or how about Windows shared view, or presentation settings

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist.../mobilepc.mspx

There's hundreds and hundreds of new things in Vista, those are the
main ones that are genuinely useful new features in Windows Vista for
me

Cheers
Nathan

> Have A Nice Cup of Tea
>
> --
> 1/ Migration to Linux only costs money once. Higher Windows TCO is forever.
> 2/ "Shared source" is a poison pill. Open Source is freedom.
> 3/ Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

In article < .com>,
"Nathan Mercer" <> wrote:
>
>Regarding DRM, people use Windows Media Player, iTunes, DVD decoders
>etc etc today without complaining about DRM.

Nathan,
I think you do a pretty good job overall of explaining things here, and I
admire you for poking youur head above the parapets. But you really must try
and avoid howlers like the one quoted above if you want people to believe
the rest of what you say.

--
Don Hills (dmhills at attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New Zealand
"New interface closely resembles Presentation Manager,
preparing you for the wonders of OS/2!"
-- Advertisement on the box for Microsoft Windows 2.11 for 286

Have A Nice Cup of Tea <> wrote:

>http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...129TX1K0000535
>
>
>After taking off the corset (DRM), and the glass eye out (the glitsy new
>GUI) and all the multiple other features that have already been dumped
>from M$ Windows Longhorn in order to get M$ Windows Vi$ta out to OEM
>manufacturers in Q4 2006, M$ has now cut out support for the Extensible
>Firmware Interface.
>
>What genuinely useful new feature will be left in M$ Windows Vi$ta that
>was not already in M$ WindowsXP and is not already implemented in a Linux
>desktop?
>
>Have A Nice Cup of Tea

I think that the genuinely useful feature left in Vista will be the
ability to part fools with their money..