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Enkidu
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      02-05-2006
The Other Guy wrote:
> Enkidu wrote:
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>> I use Exim.

>
>
> I'm actually using Exim at the moment, and quite like Postfix too. My
> problem is not with getting individual programmes working, it is
> getting them working together.
>
> Configuring SMTP and IMAP to use a single common database, handling
> local delivery, fetchmail etc. All-in-one mail systems are much
> easier to get up and running.
>

I'm not sure what you mean by "(c)onfiguring SMTP and IMAP to use a
single common database". IMAP's job is to look at a maildir, mailbox or
other mail storage format and show the user the mail. SMTP's job is to
put mail into the maildir or whatever. Do you want to put all the mail
into a single database? Or are you talking authentication?

I use fetchmail, Exim, and Courier-Imap, and Squirrelmail, and it was no
drama getting them to work together. I use real Unix accounts, but was
able to use LDAP to authenticate a virtual user to a maildir format mail
store.

Cheers,

Cliff
 
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The Other Guy
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      02-05-2006
Enkidu wrote:
> The Other Guy wrote:
>> Enkidu wrote:
>>
>>> I use Exim.

>>
>>
>> I'm actually using Exim at the moment, and quite like Postfix too. My
>> problem is not with getting individual programmes working, it is
>> getting them working together.
>>
>> Configuring SMTP and IMAP to use a single common database, handling
>> local delivery, fetchmail etc. All-in-one mail systems are much
>> easier to get up and running.
>>

> I'm not sure what you mean by "(c)onfiguring SMTP and IMAP to use a
> single common database". IMAP's job is to look at a maildir, mailbox or
> other mail storage format and show the user the mail. SMTP's job is to
> put mail into the maildir or whatever. Do you want to put all the mail
> into a single database? Or are you talking authentication?


Yes, authentication, user verification, and determining where to put the
mail. Just to make life harder, I insisted on trying with PostgresQL
rather than MySQL

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Enkidu
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      02-05-2006
The Other Guy wrote:
> Enkidu wrote:
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>> The Other Guy wrote:
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>>> Enkidu wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use Exim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm actually using Exim at the moment, and quite like Postfix
>>> too. My problem is not with getting individual programmes
>>> working, it is getting them working together.
>>>
>>> Configuring SMTP and IMAP to use a single common database,
>>> handling local delivery, fetchmail etc. All-in-one mail systems
>>> are much easier to get up and running.
>>>

>> I'm not sure what you mean by "(c)onfiguring SMTP and IMAP to use a
>> single common database". IMAP's job is to look at a maildir,
>> mailbox or other mail storage format and show the user the mail.
>> SMTP's job is to put mail into the maildir or whatever. Do you want
>> to put all the mail into a single database? Or are you talking
>> authentication?

>
> Yes, authentication, user verification, and determining where to put
> the mail. Just to make life harder, I insisted on trying with
> PostgresQL rather than MySQL
>

Courier-imap has seperate auth modules for ldap mysql and (I think)
postgresql. The exim configuration needs a router and a transport for
virtual users and I guess you could user the router to do the lookup,
but I put my virtual users mail all in one directory (with a
sub-directory for each user) using a variable for each user. I followed
a recipe so I'm not too sure of exactly what I did now.

Cheers,

Cliff
 
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Steve
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      02-05-2006
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:57:11 +1300, Enkidu wrote:

> Steve wrote:
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>> sendmail as the mta, courier to manage it. Simple. Proven. Indestructible.
>>

> Sendmail simple? Only in some alternate universe!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff


Yup. What's the problem?

 
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      02-05-2006
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:25:33 +1300, Enkidu wrote:

> The Other Guy wrote:
>> Enkidu wrote:
>>
>>> The Other Guy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Enkidu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I use Exim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm actually using Exim at the moment, and quite like Postfix
>>>> too. My problem is not with getting individual programmes
>>>> working, it is getting them working together.
>>>>
>>>> Configuring SMTP and IMAP to use a single common database,
>>>> handling local delivery, fetchmail etc. All-in-one mail systems
>>>> are much easier to get up and running.
>>>>
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "(c)onfiguring SMTP and IMAP to use a
>>> single common database". IMAP's job is to look at a maildir,
>>> mailbox or other mail storage format and show the user the mail.
>>> SMTP's job is to put mail into the maildir or whatever. Do you want
>>> to put all the mail into a single database? Or are you talking
>>> authentication?

>>
>> Yes, authentication, user verification, and determining where to put
>> the mail. Just to make life harder, I insisted on trying with
>> PostgresQL rather than MySQL
>>

> Courier-imap has seperate auth modules for ldap mysql and (I think)
> postgresql. The exim configuration needs a router and a transport for
> virtual users and I guess you could user the router to do the lookup,
> but I put my virtual users mail all in one directory (with a
> sub-directory for each user) using a variable for each user. I followed
> a recipe so I'm not too sure of exactly what I did now.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff


Postfix will not work with virtual domains. Courier works fine with
postgres, mysql, ldap, even real accounts work, too.

Mind you, given the OP, I'm not in the slightest bit surprised he fscked
it up. He'll be too busy protecting the stack from aliens to do any really
useful work.
 
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The Other Guy
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      02-05-2006
Steve wrote:
> Postfix will not work with virtual domains. Courier works fine with
> postgres, mysql, ldap, even real accounts work, too.
>
> Mind you, given the OP, I'm not in the slightest bit surprised he fscked
> it up. He'll be too busy protecting the stack from aliens to do any really
> useful work.


Now Steve, lets not have a repeat of our argument about where user space
ends and the kernel begins. I don't claim to know how to configure
arbitrary applications as it isn't what I do in my day-to-day life.

I'm sure having spent a considerable amount of time maintaining boxes
running this software that you are confident about what you're doing.

My requirement is to get it up, keep it protected, and keep it up.

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Enkidu
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      02-05-2006
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> My requirement is to get it up, keep it protected, and keep it up.
>

Have you tried Viagra?

Cheers,

Cliff
 
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AD.
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      02-05-2006
Steve wrote:

> Postfix will not work with virtual domains.


Huh?

What do you mean by that?

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Enkidu
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      02-05-2006
Steve wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:57:11 +1300, Enkidu wrote:
>
>>Steve wrote:
>>
>>> sendmail as the mta, courier to manage it. Simple. Proven. Indestructible.

>>
>>Sendmail simple? Only in some alternate universe!

>
> Yup. What's the problem?
>

I've set up several sendmail systems. There is no way that sendmail can
be called simple. And abstruse. Have you never updated the aliases file
and forgot to run newaliases? Or changed the domains file and forgot to
run 'make'?

Cheers,

Cliff
 
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Shane
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      02-06-2006
On 2006-02-05, Steve <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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> Postfix will not work with virtual domains. Courier works fine with
> postgres, mysql, ldap, even real accounts work, too.
>



My postfix setup uses virtual domains

Postfix + Courier Imap + MySQL + SpamAssassin + ClamAV

(someone elses recipe though =>
http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ )

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