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On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 20:29:08 -0000, "Dontcha" <no@go> wrote:

>"tomm42" <> wrote in message
>news: oups.com...
>> Precisely, the wearing out of the pins, the cameras I have use CF cards
>> if anything they have the weakest connection, is a nonissue. We use a 4
>> year old Fuji S1 at work, we photograph 1 patient to a card, pull the
>> card out, put it in a card reader, pull it out, back in the camera
>> format the card, take out the card, format the next one. leave that in
>> the camera. Never had a problem with the camera or the cards. It is
>> important not to force anything, but with this experience and using CF
>> cards in my Nikon 995 in the same way. It is how I work, how I teach it
>> in classes and it is how most of my photographer friends work. I have
>> never heard of someone bending the pins in a camera in 6 years of
>> dealing with digital.
>
>Well you have now ;o)
>
>To be honest though, it wouldn't surprise me if she had put the card in the
>wrong way. However I couldn't figure out why there were only a couple of
>pins bent!
>

The card will go in the wrong way, sideways.
But, the only time I've seen someone actually bend pins is when he
carried the CF card in his pocket bare (not in a case). The card
picked up something from his pocket in one of the pin holes, and bent
a pin.
Inserting the card sideways will bend pins if you press really hard,
but I guess some people haven't learned to not force things.

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Dontcha wrote:
> "tomm42" <> wrote in message
> news: ups.com...
>
>>Precisely, the wearing out of the pins, the cameras I have use CF cards
>>if anything they have the weakest connection, is a nonissue. We use a 4
>>year old Fuji S1 at work, we photograph 1 patient to a card, pull the
>>card out, put it in a card reader, pull it out, back in the camera
>>format the card, take out the card, format the next one. leave that in
>>the camera. Never had a problem with the camera or the cards. It is
>>important not to force anything, but with this experience and using CF
>>cards in my Nikon 995 in the same way. It is how I work, how I teach it
>>in classes and it is how most of my photographer friends work. I have
>>never heard of someone bending the pins in a camera in 6 years of
>>dealing with digital.
>
>
> Well you have now ;o)
>
> To be honest though, it wouldn't surprise me if she had put the card in the
> wrong way. However I couldn't figure out why there were only a couple of
> pins bent!

I've seen bent pins in a pcmcia slot, so I guess it's possible to do it
with a camera.

Peter Huebner <> wrote in
news: t:

> In article <bolEf.454856$> ,
> says...
>>
>> Yes, but that would surely cost over $20! (Oh-Noes!)
>>
>
> 20 bucks is cheap, desktop space isn't <g>. I'd simply hate having yet
> another gadget flopping around at the end of its cord. I might
> consider one that is internal ... but, have they really become that
> cheap? Last time I looked they were still around $100. Anyway, this
> just isn't high on my list of things to do. My camera is *extremely*
> fast over usb and I have a hub built into the monitor...

I love my camera, but the interface is USB1.1, it is very slow (at least
that is what I have read, I have never tried it). For me a card reader is
the best option and it takes no desk space (due to it not sitting on my
desk). My CF card in the camera is 2GB and the spare card is 1GB - I wont
be using USB1.1 to transfer a full 2GB card.

My USB card reader is smaller than my camera, so that if I grab the card
reader and plug it into my PC it is easier to find somewhere to sit the
card reader than it would be for my camera.

On the other hand:
If using your camera to read the card works for you then there is no
problem, carry on and keep enjoying your digital pics! (and don't let the
paranoia bug bite)


--
Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 5-September-05)
"The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
Maskerade

Peter Huebner <> wrote in
news: t:

> In article <bolEf.454856$> ,
> says...
>>
>> Yes, but that would surely cost over $20! (Oh-Noes!)
>>
>
> 20 bucks is cheap, desktop space isn't <g>. I'd simply hate having yet
> another gadget flopping around at the end of its cord. I might
> consider one that is internal ... but, have they really become that
> cheap? Last time I looked they were still around $100.

How long ago was that?

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MMRAPA0501
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MMR3CB11740
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MMRLAS1611




--
Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 5-September-05)
"The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
Maskerade

"Ralph" <> wrote in
news:drsguq$obm$:

> If something is going to wear out, I would prefer that the USB socket
> wore out first. That way the camera will still operate.
> If the card contacts wear out, you don't have a camera.
> Use the USB cable if you are worried about things wearing out.

If something is going to wear out it wont be the card contacts! I seem to
recall reading that they are good for over 10000 insertions. So if you use
the camera a lot and average close to 3 insertions a day that would be
about 1000 a year, after 10 years you would be worried that some day the
contacts are going to wear out and your 10 year old camera might stop
working.


--
Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 5-September-05)
"The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
Maskerade

"Jim F B" <> wrote in news:43e1cc35$:

>
> "Ron Hunter" <> wrote in message
> news:lvCdnbhVFZVGVHzeRVn-...
>
>> The internal card reader on my wife's computer is so much faster than
>> the one attached to my computer that if I have a full 256 meg card it
>> is much faster to do the transfer on her computer, and then copy the
>> files to my computer through the LAN... Another reason why I need a
>> new computer....
>
> I wonder if it is much faster than transferring the pics directly from
> the camera?

Do you wonder that because you have some misfounded belief that all cameras
come with USB2 interfaces and transfer at very high speeds? Sure some
cameras do transfer the data very fast, but there are lots more that don't,
even with the models that have USB2.


--
Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 5-September-05)
"The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
Maskerade

"Keith Sheppard" <> wrote in
news:iOnEf.36231$:

> As I understand it, any sensible camera will draw its power from the
> computer via the USB cable whilst connected. I don't think the state
> of the batteries comes into the equation.

Do you really know of ANY camera that does this?

As far as I know NO camera will draw its power from the USB socket!

Many cameras would draw too much current for the USB socket anyway, but
even the ones that have a low current draw still don't take their power
from the USB socket as far as I know.

Feel free to provide evidence that just one camera exists that will power
itself from the USB socket as I am now curious.


--
Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 5-September-05)
"The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
Maskerade

"Mark B." <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz (*sling)> wrote in message
> news:1138839924.639725@ftpsrv1...
>>
>>
>> Of course you'll also notice that once you (not anyone else) remove your
>> camera batteries everything on the memory card in the camera is
>> deleted --- you'll believe anything.
>> Downloading does not effect what's on the card at all.
>>
>> Pulling a memory card in and out the camera all the time is going to be
>> real good on the wear tear of all contacts.
>
>
> I've owned Compact Flash cams since 2000, I didn't wait too long before
> getting a card reader. I have yet to have a problem removing &
> reinstalling cards.
>
> Mark

I'm not stating that you ever will have a problem either. To be realistic,
the chance of any problems wouldn't be any different from the chance of a
problem from downloading straight from the camera.

This entire thread has been a waste of time for "may happens & ifs" right
from the start.

No has said that their memory card has been stuffed due to the batteries
going flat on their camera. Unprovern crap doesn't help anyone - except in
this case those who are trying to see card readers. And while card readers
would be useful for some people most light to average users wouldn't need
them at all, and shouldn't consider getting one just because they've been
scared into thinking they will need one to prevent damage to their
cameras/computers/ and memory cards... might as add the prevention of
personal injury to themselves as well.


E. Scrooge

Per MarkH:
>If something is going to wear out it wont be the card contacts! I seem to
>recall reading that they are good for over 10000 insertions.

This is probably irrelevant, but one of my CF cards has been through the wash
twice already - no apparent damage.
--
PeteCresswell

E. Scrooge wrote:
> "Mark B." <> wrote in message
> news:. ..
>
>>"E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz (*sling)> wrote in message
>>news:1138839924.639725@ftpsrv1...
>>
>>>
>>>Of course you'll also notice that once you (not anyone else) remove your
>>>camera batteries everything on the memory card in the camera is
>>>deleted --- you'll believe anything.
>>>Downloading does not effect what's on the card at all.
>>>
>>>Pulling a memory card in and out the camera all the time is going to be
>>>real good on the wear tear of all contacts.
>>
>>
>>I've owned Compact Flash cams since 2000, I didn't wait too long before
>>getting a card reader. I have yet to have a problem removing &
>>reinstalling cards.
>>
>>Mark
>
>
> I'm not stating that you ever will have a problem either. To be realistic,
> the chance of any problems wouldn't be any different from the chance of a
> problem from downloading straight from the camera.
>
> This entire thread has been a waste of time for "may happens & ifs" right
> from the start.
>
> No has said that their memory card has been stuffed due to the batteries
> going flat on their camera. Unprovern crap doesn't help anyone - except in
> this case those who are trying to see card readers. And while card readers
> would be useful for some people most light to average users wouldn't need
> them at all, and shouldn't consider getting one just because they've been
> scared into thinking they will need one to prevent damage to their
> cameras/computers/ and memory cards... might as add the prevention of
> personal injury to themselves as well.
>
>
Especially if they wear that Velostat helmet, then they are double
protected!