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Steven H
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      01-27-2006
Hello ~misfit~,

your running the 1.1 framework right ???

the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net - dont worry
your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that user account Needed
to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).

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Steven H

the madGeek

> ~misfit~ wrote:
>
>> Malcolm wrote:
>>
>>> When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name
>>> to login and password? Well it does for me...?
>>>

>> Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.
>>

> Yeah, you da man! I just clicked out of it last time and it has
> 'Administrator" as default, I left it. I've since done it properly,
> changed it to my user account. Why is this simple stuff hidden in
> command line mode? Surely that screen could have been included in
> Control Panel instead of having to type some obscure command into a
> box?
>
> And what's with the "ASP.NET machine account"? It's a
> password-protected account *I* didn't install. I thought this was my
> computer? Just when I find MS have done something right (SyncToy) I'm
> confronted with this high-handedness. <shakes head>
>
> As I don't know what that account is or does I'm gonna disable fast
> user switching. I'd delete the account but that would probably get me
> an un-bootable HDD. Might have to Google it.
>
> Cheers,
>



 
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Steven H
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      01-27-2006
Hello Dave,

> even the help in Symantec AV had a hole there...


im not sure if it was Symantic but some dumb **** anti-viri vendor allowed
one of their services to 'interact with the desktop' - what a dumb stupid
thing to do .... urgh....

as you said, the system account runs with diffrent (not alwayshigher) privilages
than the account that you use (which is ment to be a USER account btw) so
there is a chance for process escelation.

> That wall between accounts is sometimes not as strong as
> one would like


it depends on what a program is trying to do, yes you can to a 'automated
RunAs' to run in diffrent cradentials but you do NEED the password. And in
Windows (along with every other multi user OS) there is no way to computationally
obtain the password.

as for process escelation, yep in years gone by that was **** easy to do,
just inject into a process hook up a WM_TIMER event when that fires (in your
code-space) your off doing whatever you like. but that got fixed (dammit)
and now i dont think that specific hack is useable now (processes cant inject
into each others space).

can anybody renember blue screening 95, 98 with a single line of code - in
vb ? now that was fun.

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> "~misfit~" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> Might have to Google it.
>>

> It is a system account, google it...
>
> Interestingly, going from a user account to running things in a system
> account is one of the most common ways to hack a pc to elevate
> privilages. That wall between accounts is sometimes not as strong as
> one would like, heck, even the help in Symantec AV had a hole there...
>



 
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~misfit~
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      01-28-2006
Steven H wrote:
> Hello ~misfit~,


Hey Steven,

> your running the 1.1 framework right ???


I believe so, yes.

> the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
> dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that
> user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).


Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
install dot.net framework to run it.

Cheers,
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~misfit~

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> Steven H
>
> the madGeek
>
>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>
>>> Malcolm wrote:
>>>
>>>> When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name
>>>> to login and password? Well it does for me...?
>>>>
>>> Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.
>>>

>> Yeah, you da man! I just clicked out of it last time and it has
>> 'Administrator" as default, I left it. I've since done it properly,
>> changed it to my user account. Why is this simple stuff hidden in
>> command line mode? Surely that screen could have been included in
>> Control Panel instead of having to type some obscure command into a
>> box?
>>
>> And what's with the "ASP.NET machine account"? It's a
>> password-protected account *I* didn't install. I thought this was my
>> computer? Just when I find MS have done something right (SyncToy) I'm
>> confronted with this high-handedness. <shakes head>
>>
>> As I don't know what that account is or does I'm gonna disable fast
>> user switching. I'd delete the account but that would probably get me
>> an un-bootable HDD. Might have to Google it.
>>
>> Cheers,



 
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Gordon
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      01-28-2006
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:09:31 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:

> Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows insists
> on making changes I don't want.


Oh come on misfit, It is because MS knows this is the way you should have
your system.

 
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~misfit~
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      01-28-2006
Gordon wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:09:31 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:
>
>> Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows
>> insists on making changes I don't want.

>
> Oh come on misfit, It is because MS knows this is the way you should
> have your system.


Heh, too true. That's why I like to change things around.
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Steven H
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      01-28-2006
Hello ~misfit~,

>> the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
>> dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that
>> user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).
>>

> Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
> install dot.net framework to run it.


yea sync-toy is pretty cool, i use it all the time syncing my bookmarks inbetween
my laptop and desktop machines.

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Steven H

the madGeek

> Steven H wrote:
>
>> Hello ~misfit~,
>>

> Hey Steven,
>
>> your running the 1.1 framework right ???
>>

> I believe so, yes.
>
>> the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
>> dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that
>> user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).
>>

> Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
> install dot.net framework to run it.
>
> Cheers,
>
>> ----------------
>> Steven H
>> the madGeek
>>
>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Malcolm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name
>>>>> to login and password? Well it does for me...?
>>>>>
>>>> Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, you da man! I just clicked out of it last time and it has
>>> 'Administrator" as default, I left it. I've since done it properly,
>>> changed it to my user account. Why is this simple stuff hidden in
>>> command line mode? Surely that screen could have been included in
>>> Control Panel instead of having to type some obscure command into a
>>> box?
>>>
>>> And what's with the "ASP.NET machine account"? It's a
>>> password-protected account *I* didn't install. I thought this was my
>>> computer? Just when I find MS have done something right (SyncToy)
>>> I'm confronted with this high-handedness. <shakes head>
>>>
>>> As I don't know what that account is or does I'm gonna disable fast
>>> user switching. I'd delete the account but that would probably get
>>> me an un-bootable HDD. Might have to Google it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>



 
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~misfit~
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      01-28-2006
Steven H wrote:
> Hello ~misfit~,
>
>>> the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
>>> dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but
>>> that user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).
>>>

>> Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
>> install dot.net framework to run it.

>
> yea sync-toy is pretty cool, i use it all the time syncing my
> bookmarks inbetween my laptop and desktop machines.


Must admit, SyncToy is the best thing MS have done for ages. I haven't tried
it syncing across the network yet, just to the USB drive, I'll try the
network sometime.
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