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outofdate wrote:
> Why would you assume I was in Auckland?

NNTP...

outofdate wrote:
> "JD" <_antipodean_@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news: oups.com...

> > Given your demonstrated inability to explain yourself, that is your
> > issue. But the concept that an LCD (with dramatically better resolution
> > than comparable plasmas) has a picture quality approaching a "massively
> > over compressed jpeg" is laughable.
>
> Once again for the slow to get it, what I see with my own eyes is fact,
> whether there is something wrong with the setup in shops does not change
> what I see in the shops, I smell an overprotective lcd owner.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about and you shouldn't
go making assumptions.

"outofdate" <outofdate@computer> wrote in message
news:43baff4c$...
> What the hell is going on with lcd tv's, everyone that i have seen in
> stores
> displays an awful picture whether showing dvd's or digital tv, it looks
> like
> what you see when you massively overcompress a jpeg picture file. I have
> tried to find out about this on the net but so far have had no luck, it's
> seems unbelievable that it is not an easy topic to find, is everyone
> deluding themselves about lcd tv's, I can't see any other explanation
> because for there to be no explanation at all about something that is so
> obvious to anyone but a blind man makes no sense unless people just don't
> want to know about it, i.e delusion. I am curious to find out what causes
> the problem, do lcd tv's compress the received signal for some reason
> before
> displaying it. Anyhow as it stands lcd tv's give a worse picture than any
> other tv i have ever seen in my life, yet they are selling well, totally
> amazing. So does anybody here actually know what the story is, obviously i
> am not interested in people that just want to defend their lcd tv with any
> made up explanation.


I agree - I've seen a lot of crap too... lots of missed frames, pixelation
etc... some of the TV's can't handle resizing pictures on the fly?? Saw it
on a projector at a mates place the other day... it couldn't handle the hd
image coming out of the media pc and missed frames a lot while it was being
displayed. He was happy through. Couldn't believe it myself.

~misfit~ wrote:
> TonyC wrote:
>
>>outofdate wrote:
>>
>>>What the hell is going on with lcd tv's,
>>
>>AAAAAAAARRRGHH! APOSTROPHE!
>>
>>
>>>deluding themselves about lcd tv's,
>>
>>AAAAAAAARRRGHH! APOSTROPHE!
>>
>>
>>>the problem, do lcd tv's compress
>>
>>AAAAAAAARRRGHH! APOSTROPHE!
>>
>>
>>>Anyhow as it stands lcd tv's
>>
>>AAAAAAAARRRGHH! APOSTROPHE!
>>
>>AAAAAAAARRRGHH! APOSTROPHE!
>>
>>AAAAAAAARRRGHH! APOSTROPHE!
>
>
> See your doctor, tell them you suffer from a stress disorder and possible
> obsessive/compulsive disorder too. The doctor may be able to help. (Hint:
> Try to avoid SSRI's they aren't that great for GAD or OCD. Try to get
> Benzodiazapienes, they work)
>
> Either that or accept that this is usenet, not advanced English composition
> class and get on with your life and stop cross-posting the results of your
> psychological condition into computer and tech newsgroups.
>
> This public service announcement had been bought to you by the letters MD
> and the number 6 (With the last sibilant silent)

I'll have the MD 20/20 please! Can't seem to find it in New Zealand
though http://www.bumwine.com/md2020.html - A Mad Dog happy new year to
all

outofdate wrote:
> "JD" <_antipodean_@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news: oups.com...
>> outofdate wrote:
>>> "JD" <_antipodean_@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>> news: oups.com...
>>>> outofdate wrote:
>>>>> What the hell is going on with lcd tv's, everyone that i have
>>>>> seen in stores displays an awful picture whether showing dvd's or
>>>>> digital tv, it looks like what you see when you massively
>>>>> overcompress a jpeg picture file. I have tried to find out about
>>>>> this on the net but so far have had no luck,
>>>>
>>>> It's called the screen door effect, basically, you're either
>>>> looking at cheap older generation or more likely, you're standing
>>>> too damn close to the TV.
>>>
>>> Well that might be what you like to believe but that has nothing to
>>> do with what I actually said.
>>
>> Given your demonstrated inability to explain yourself, that is your
>> issue. But the concept that an LCD (with dramatically better
>> resolution than comparable plasmas) has a picture quality
>> approaching a "massively over compressed jpeg" is laughable.
>
> Once again for the slow to get it, what I see with my own eyes is

<Whew!> At least you've stopped counting your eyes before you write about
them now.

> fact, whether there is something wrong with the setup in shops does
> not change what I see in the shops, I smell an overprotective lcd
> owner.

And I smell someone who asked for opinions and now doggedly refuses to
consider that he may be wrong.

In your very first post you said something about people clinging to their
ideas because they own one (paraphrasing but that was the gist of it).
Methinks you are guilty of a similar thing, only protecting your assertation
that all LCD TVs are crap. They say we always see in others that which we
find in ourselves. Yours seems to be obstinacy.

If you are going to attempt to refute each and every person's input why did
you ask? Or is confrontation your "style"?
--
~misfit~

"outofdate" <outofdate@computer> wrote in message
news:43baff4c$...
> What the hell is going on with lcd tv's, everyone that i have seen in
stores
> displays an awful picture whether showing dvd's or digital tv, it looks
like
> what you see when you massively overcompress a jpeg picture file.

I agree totally, I can't see why they are becomming popular.

"Jim F B" <> wrote in message news:43bb2781$...
>
> "outofdate" <outofdate@computer> wrote in message
> news:43baff4c$...
> > What the hell is going on with lcd tv's, everyone that i have seen in
> > stores
> > displays an awful picture
>
> The 17" Sony wide screen TV that I have seen is far superior to any CRT
that
> I know of. When you pause a DVD or show digital pictures on it ex your
> camera, there is no flicker on the LCD TV, but noticeable flicker on every
> conventional CRT that I have tried. The colours are brighter and fresher
> also on this LCD TV. A lot depends on the brand, I thought Sony was a lot
> better than the others I saw. This TV is also a great computer monitor,
> better than any CRT I have ever owned. So I think your comments are a bit
> out of date, I would happily get rid of my CRT for a Sony LCD TV!
>

And i've personally test driven the latest Sony 17" LCD (TVset) at home and
confirmed it CANNOT (as with all other LCD) give me a proper BLACK as done
so by CRT. This is a function of the backlight process even though some are
now useing LED light as opposed to flouro-mini discharge tube. I've found
Plasma to give a better black and would probably settle on one of these
but...

Nope... i like to watch a good movie and when the dark scenes arrive THEY
have to be black or they look stupid.

morris

On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:55:06 +1300, "outofdate" <outofdate@computer>
wrote:

>
>My comments are completely up to date as it was only 2 days ago that I
>visited 3 different stores with lcd t.v's but I will say that I was looking
>at larger than 17 inch as 17 inch is far too small to be used as a main t.v.
>The smaller lcd t.v's I have seen did seem to be heaps better in regards to
>the problem I am referring to when I say that lcd looks crap ..

Yes i can definately second that .. i was just reminding myself of
that today at Bonds store ..i go into the tV area and just look
blandly at all the TV's until i can work out from the overall picture
which screen is the clearest and best for me to look at .. the TV that
my eyes settle on is consistantly not the biggest one

On cathode ray TV's i find the 21" TV's to have the most user friendly
picture (although i do realise the size issue is a real one)
And on LCD's its difficult to find an excellent picture at all , the
text and images allways seem a bit blurry , fudged or staggered in
action scenes , but again the LCD unit i settled on was not by a long
margin the largest screen .. it would have been i guess a 32" screen
width

It is a blast to get the TV out of the corner tho and for that and the
other status symbol and new technology reasons i can understand why
people purchase them ,,

Craig Sutton wrote:
> "outofdate" <outofdate@computer> wrote in message
> news:43baff4c$...
>> What the hell is going on with lcd tv's, everyone that i have seen in
> stores
>> displays an awful picture whether showing dvd's or digital tv, it looks
> like
>> what you see when you massively overcompress a jpeg picture file.
>
> I agree totally, I can't see why they are becomming popular.
>
>

they are fashionable .... oh and smaller than yer regular tele ... I
know I would love one on the wall - alas, I have not been overly
impressed with them at all ... plasmas as well. So until I like what I
am purchasing ... I'll be keeping my 2k in my pocket for awhile

"outofdate" <outofdate@computer> wrote in message
news:...

>> Our 37" is great. Excellent picture quality. Higher model
>> Philips. Much better than the old 29" Sanyo, and that was
>> pretty
>> good.
>>
>
> Can I ask what you think of the quality of picture of the lcd
> t'v's you see
> in store, is it similar to your own tv?

Nah. Most are pretty crappy. You have to go with a higher
resolution. More expensive though.