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Edmond Lo wrote:
> Allow me to share my experience with another form of DRM. Last year I
> legally pay for a song on an Music site. The file was downloaded as wma
> format. I guess no problem as I can convert it to mp3 format. And having 3
> mp3 players I suppose at least one will be able to play it. Well bad
> mistake.
>
> I can't convert the wma file as it is protected by DRM. I can't burn it onto
> audio CD as it is protected by DRM. So I went and buy a cheap mp3 player
> that support wma file, but can't play it as the player doesn't support DRM
> protection.
>
> The only way I can play the song is on my PC.
> Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!


Surely, there is a work around for the DRM? I don't use wma *at all* -
not even music offered for free, so I've never had to figure it out for
myself, though.

http://del.icio.us/search/?all=wma+drm might offer some solutions.

I doubt I will ever buy music in a DRM format (I'm not averse to buying
as straight mp3, though, if I had to).

Problem is, there is just too much legal, free music available now - for
example, now I'm working my way through the Chillits 2005 festival music
downloads, that's around 24 hours of music, all mp3, all free, and all
available by bittorrent right now.

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:14:22 +1300, Murray Symon wrote:

> Why is it necessary for you to mock those who may not
> count English as their first language?

i mock nobody who you mock rjh prefer people speak chinglish so I speak
chinglish

for you i also use no capitalisation or punction


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On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:19:19 +1300, Mr Undeniably Sluttish wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:14:22 +1300, Murray Symon wrote:
>
>> Why is it necessary for you to mock those who may not count English as
>> their first language?
>
> i mock nobody who you mock rjh prefer people speak chinglish so I speak
> chinglish
>
> for you i also use no capitalisation or punction
>
>
> Undeniably Sluttish

gee thanks alot

Mr Undeniably Sluttish wrote:

> The orignal poster will be better of if he abandoned his use of Chinglish
> and adopted gramatically correct English in spoken and written form.

"Original" has an "i" in it. And "off" has two "f"s.

What's your first language just out of interest? You spell reasonably
well, considering.

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:51:44 +1300, -=rjh=- <> wrote:

>Edmond Lo wrote:
>> Allow me to share my experience with another form of DRM. Last year I
>> legally pay for a song on an Music site. The file was downloaded as wma
>> format. I guess no problem as I can convert it to mp3 format. And having 3
>> mp3 players I suppose at least one will be able to play it. Well bad
>> mistake.
>>
>> I can't convert the wma file as it is protected by DRM. I can't burn it onto
>> audio CD as it is protected by DRM. So I went and buy a cheap mp3 player
>> that support wma file, but can't play it as the player doesn't support DRM
>> protection.
>>
>> The only way I can play the song is on my PC.
>> Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
>
>
>Surely, there is a work around for the DRM? I don't use wma *at all* -
>not even music offered for free, so I've never had to figure it out for
>myself, though.
>
>http://del.icio.us/search/?all=wma+drm might offer some solutions.
>
>I doubt I will ever buy music in a DRM format (I'm not averse to buying
>as straight mp3, though, if I had to).
>
>Problem is, there is just too much legal, free music available now - for
>example, now I'm working my way through the Chillits 2005 festival music
>downloads, that's around 24 hours of music, all mp3, all free, and all
>available by bittorrent right now.

I have never used it myself, as I have never downloaded a DRM file,
but I came across a post of a file called drm2wmv.zip in a newsgroup,
which says it will convert a DRM file to something usable as long as
you have the ability to play the DRM file on your system (ie a legal
key for it).

This is not where I got my copy from, but it was the first URL Google
gave me when I looked up drm2wmv.zip, and it looks to be the same
thing:

http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3757

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:53:54 +1300, Edmond Lo wrote:

> The only way I can play the song is on my PC.

No, you simply download a copy off the net in mp3 or ogg format and to hell
with self-serving, ****ed up copyright laws.

It is our duty to disobey stupid laws. It is the only way they will stop
making them.

Otherwise you are rewarding them for enslaving you.

--

.... Brendan

#416857 +(3771)- [X]

<born1986> why the **** isn't my disc drive working
<born1986> i ****ing worked on that essay for three friggin' hours in
school
<born1986> i now i cant finish it 'cos my ****in drive ain't working
<Z00ass> you got the right drivers?
<born1986> hell yes
<born1986> it was working fine yesterday
<born1986> why does this **** always happen to me?
<Z00ass> maybe that little clip on the side is i nthe wrong position
<born1986> i havent touched it since school
<born1986> i'm growing impatient
<born1986> ANGRY even
<Z00ass> throw that **** out tha window

.. . .

<born1986> OMG i ****in did it!!!
<born1986> ****!!!!!
<Z00ass> it works?
<born1986> no, i threw it out the window
<Z00ass> the disk?
<born1986> NO the whole drive
<born1986> i live on the 6th floor, made a nice *smash*
<Z00ass>
<born1986> **** **** ****
<born1986> THE DISK WAS STILL INSIDE
<born1986> brb

.. . .

<born1986> ****
<Z00ass> what? did ya break it?
<born1986> well i couldn't open the drive
<born1986> so i had to pound it against a rock
<Z00ass>
<born1986> quite HARD
<born1986> and you know what?
<born1986> that ****ing disk wasnt even there
<Z00ass> ???
<born1986> i got so mad i threw the remaiders of the drive on to the
freeway
<born1986> and when i got back upstairs i foud the disk inside my bag
<Z00ass> lol
<born1986> I NEVER EVEN PUT IT IN THE DRIVE
<born1986> i'm actually cryin right now

.. . .

<born1986> wonder if i could make that drive work again
<born1986> brb


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On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:32:43 +1300, Robert Cooze wrote:

> Tell me about it. Even worce I make VCD's and SVCD's from my Cam corder.
> hasnet been a problem till now. Nephew got a remot for the Xbox so he
> could play DVD's (stock) now rellys blamed my disks not the Xbox. My New
> years resolution Is to not Moly coldle or do teck support this year.

The unmodified xbox cd reader will not read cdr reliably. Stupid, I know.

Reads cdrw, and dvd. But not cdr.

Don't think it does VCD or svcd format either.

Mod it and replace the drive with a decent ide one and install the
software, and it'll play anything. Even realmedia, xvid,etc files iirc.

> I am not saying DRM doesnot have a place.

But *I* DO say it does NOT have a place.
It is an abomination that benefits a few at the on-going expense of the
majority. It is straight out of the Dark Ages and ruins the chances of
future historians.

Additionally, DRM advocates (Like Disney) are some of the worst pirates out
there (think they wrote Snow White, etc? Think they paid for it? **** no.
But they will sue you for watching it on your Ipod).
But even DREAM of time shifting or converting 'there' material and you are
a criminal.

Wankers. Each and every one of them.

--

.... Brendan

#4680 +(3699)- [X]

<Raize> can you guys see what I type?
<vecna> no, raize
<Raize> How do I set it up so you can see it?


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Mr Undeniably Sluttish <> wrote in
news :

> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:53:54 +1300, Edmond Lo wrote:
>
>> Allow me to share my experience with another form of DRM. Last year I
>> legally pay for a
><snip>
>
> "... legally PAID ..."
>
> What you bought last year you PAID for - not PAY for!
>
> Please get your tenses correct.
>
> Nothing worse than chinglish. "He walk three dog yesterday"
>
> Grrrrr!
>
> Get it right!!

I regularly see many posts to this group with spelling and grammatical
errors, but this is the first one that I have seen you criticise (which is
very poor netiquette). In this thread there was a post a few hours earlier
by Robert Cooze with over a dozen spelling mistakes in just 2 paragraphs,
and you posted nothing in response.

This "Chinglish" attack may not be racially motivated, but it certainly
comes across as a racist post.

Please learn good netiquette and desist from criticising spelling or
grammar on perfectly easy to understand posts!


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Brendan wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:32:43 +1300, Robert Cooze wrote:
>
>
>>Tell me about it. Even worce I make VCD's and SVCD's from my Cam corder.
>>hasnet been a problem till now. Nephew got a remot for the Xbox so he
>>could play DVD's (stock) now rellys blamed my disks not the Xbox. My New
>>years resolution Is to not Moly coldle or do teck support this year.
>
>
> The unmodified xbox cd reader will not read cdr reliably. Stupid, I know.
>
> Reads cdrw, and dvd. But not cdr.
>
> Don't think it does VCD or svcd format either.
>
> Mod it and replace the drive with a decent ide one and install the
> software, and it'll play anything. Even realmedia, xvid,etc files iirc.
>
>
>>I am not saying DRM doesnot have a place.
>
>
> But *I* DO say it does NOT have a place.
> It is an abomination that benefits a few at the on-going expense of the
> majority. It is straight out of the Dark Ages and ruins the chances of
> future historians.
>
> Additionally, DRM advocates (Like Disney) are some of the worst pirates out
> there (think they wrote Snow White, etc? Think they paid for it? **** no.
> But they will sue you for watching it on your Ipod).
> But even DREAM of time shifting or converting 'there' material and you are
> a criminal.
>
> Wankers. Each and every one of them.
>
Some thinngs In NZ are compleatly leagle our copyright laws go to the
orignal owner or somthing like that and 50 years after death A lot of
orignal stuff is now copyright free so to speak of.

As for the xbox I know it can be modded like that but I WONT due to new
year resaluation for other reasons I wont tamper with it at all, as
well. This year am buying a PS2 for son In a way I baught it almost for
its tamper proof design (yes I know it can be chiped and modded) but
without a hard drive It is almost impossibal to get the virus and or
worm and spyware ect ect... But will have to put up with the sony DRM
but there is enough games out there in NZ.

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Edmond Lo wrote:
> Allow me to share my experience with another form of DRM. Last year I
> legally pay for a song on an Music site. The file was downloaded as wma
> format. I guess no problem as I can convert it to mp3 format. And having 3
> mp3 players I suppose at least one will be able to play it. Well bad
> mistake.
>
> I can't convert the wma file as it is protected by DRM. I can't burn it onto
> audio CD as it is protected by DRM. So I went and buy a cheap mp3 player
> that support wma file, but can't play it as the player doesn't support DRM
> protection.
>
> The only way I can play the song is on my PC.
> Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
>
>
>
8><

Just a quick thught.

Does your sound card support recording the actual WAV or pcm channel I
can record any source including pcm and sterio mix. To record the song
to wave now there are several realy good proggies to record long wav's.
then convert the wav file to mp3 and you should be done.

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