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Sparky <> wrote in
news:zUMrf.10565$:

> I have an NEC DVD_RW ND 1300A combo drive, which was working perfectly
> a week ago. Now it no longer recognises CD's placed in the drive.
> If I put a DVD in it will recognise it and read it.
> If I put in a CD NOTHING I just get the following message
>
> "PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>
> And YES there is a CD in. This is the same for CD's I have burnt AS
> WELL as comercially crerated CD's
> It will not read music CD's
> It will not even read the WINXP HOME installation CD.
>
> THINGS I HAVE DONE
>
> Removed the drive from SYSTEM in CPL re installed same problem
>
> Uninstalled the driver re-insatlled same problem. I am guessing I am
> re-installing the driver from WINDOWS directory as the WINXP CD cannot
> be read.
>
> I cannot roll back to a previous driver None to go back to?
>
> Been to GOOGLE to look for drivers cannot find any
>
> NEC website cannot find drivers there
>
> Am about to biff this into the bin and get another drive
> BEFORE I do that anyone got any ideas I have not tried or help?
> Thanks

Can you try this drive in another system?

Unfortunately these things are uneconomic to repair
You will have to buy another
ie: its stuffed

Is it under warranty??
Some drives (LG) have 2 year warranty.

Sparky wrote:
> XP wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:08:08 +1300, Sparky <>
>> wrote:
>>> Craig Whitmore wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> "PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you try and boot off the WINXP CD does it work (hardware
>>>> problem rather than software problem?)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> NOPE.. cannot boot from ANY CD .. Drive does not recognise CD's just
>>> DVD's Used to work fine last week. Would play Music CD'S boot
>>> Softwared CD's now all it reads is DVD's . When I look at the drive
>>> in MY COMPUTER there is an entry in the COMMENTS section which says
>>> "CONTAINS DIGITAL PHOTOS> IMAGES AND GRAPHICS FILES" that entry is
>>> there eveb if the drive is empty.. Loks like a hardware fault??
>>> thanks for the message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The CD lens could be dirty, try a cleaning CD, and if you Smoke kiss
>> the drive good bye
>>
>>
>>
> yip did the clean thing... still no joy. READS DVDs perfectly.. and
> no i do not smoke

I could be wrong, I've been wrong once before. However, doesn't a combo
drive (or any DVD drive that reads CDs for that matter) use a separate laser
for each type of media? I went through the lengthy and painful process of
returning several Samsung combo drives (DVD-read, CD-read/write) earlier
this year that would read DVDs fine but kept saying "No disc" when a CD was
inserted. Finally got the retailer to swap the last dud the NZ agents gave
me for a Lite-On, been fine ever since.

However, that said, that "CONTAINS DIGITAL PHOTOS> IMAGES AND GRAPHICS
FILES" would suggest malware to me. As mentioned by someone else, trying it
in another machine would be helpful. Maybe upgrading/reflashing firmware
also/instead if you don't have access to another machine. Something may have
corrupted the firmware.
--
~misfit~

"Mark Remfrey" <remfreym_nospam_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
newsPVrf.10638$...
> "Sparky" <> wrote in message
> news:zUMrf.10565$...
>>I have an NEC DVD_RW ND 1300A combo drive, which was working
>>perfectly a week ago. Now it no longer recognises CD's placed in the
>>drive.
>> If I put a DVD in it will recognise it and read it.
>> If I put in a CD NOTHING I just get the following message
>>
>> "PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>>
>> And YES there is a CD in. This is the same for CD's I have burnt AS
>> WELL as comercially crerated CD's
>> It will not read music CD's
>> It will not even read the WINXP HOME installation CD.
>>
>> THINGS I HAVE DONE
>>
>> Removed the drive from SYSTEM in CPL re installed same problem
>>
>> Uninstalled the driver re-insatlled same problem. I am guessing I
>> am re-installing the driver from WINDOWS directory as the WINXP CD
>> cannot be read.
>>
>> I cannot roll back to a previous driver None to go back to?
>>
>> Been to GOOGLE to look for drivers cannot find any
>>
>> NEC website cannot find drivers there
>>
>> Am about to biff this into the bin and get another drive
>> BEFORE I do that anyone got any ideas I have not tried or help?
>> Thanks
>
> As a remote possibility, have you installed any games in the last
> week? Specifically, ones that use StarForce copy protection?
>
> StarForce installs some nasty device drivers that have been known to
> hijack and kill CD-ROM drives.
>
> --

A simple way to determine if the problem is software-related is to run
msconfig and reboot in diagnostic mode with all startup programs and
non-essential services disabled. If you then have access to CDs,
re-enable each program and service, one-by-one, until you find the
culprit.

Impossible wrote:
> "Mark Remfrey" <remfreym_nospam_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> newsPVrf.10638$...
>
>>"Sparky" <> wrote in message
>>news:zUMrf.10565$...
>>
>>>I have an NEC DVD_RW ND 1300A combo drive, which was working
>>>perfectly a week ago. Now it no longer recognises CD's placed in the
>>>drive.
>>>If I put a DVD in it will recognise it and read it.
>>>If I put in a CD NOTHING I just get the following message
>>>
>>> "PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>>>
>>>And YES there is a CD in. This is the same for CD's I have burnt AS
>>>WELL as comercially crerated CD's
>>>It will not read music CD's
>>>It will not even read the WINXP HOME installation CD.
>>>
>>>THINGS I HAVE DONE
>>>
>>>Removed the drive from SYSTEM in CPL re installed same problem
>>>
>>>Uninstalled the driver re-insatlled same problem. I am guessing I
>>>am re-installing the driver from WINDOWS directory as the WINXP CD
>>>cannot be read.
>>>
>>>I cannot roll back to a previous driver None to go back to?
>>>
>>>Been to GOOGLE to look for drivers cannot find any
>>>
>>>NEC website cannot find drivers there
>>>
>>>Am about to biff this into the bin and get another drive
>>>BEFORE I do that anyone got any ideas I have not tried or help?
>>>Thanks
>>
>>As a remote possibility, have you installed any games in the last
>>week? Specifically, ones that use StarForce copy protection?
>>
>>StarForce installs some nasty device drivers that have been known to
>>hijack and kill CD-ROM drives.
>>
>>--
>
>
> A simple way to determine if the problem is software-related is to run
> msconfig and reboot in diagnostic mode with all startup programs and
> non-essential services disabled. If you then have access to CDs,
> re-enable each program and service, one-by-one, until you find the
> culprit.

If he can't even boot from a CD-ROM he won't be able to read one in
windows. Replace the drive is the only fix I think.

"~misfit~" <> wrote in
news::

> Maybe upgrading/reflashing firmware
> also/instead if you don't have access to another machine. Something
> may have corrupted the firmware.
>

I was thinking the same thing, something like a region crack for DVD's
going wrong and breaking the device?

--
Ciao, Dave

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:55:21 +1300, Jerry wrote:

> Impossible wrote:
>> "Mark Remfrey" <remfreym_nospam_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsPVrf.10638$...
>>
>>>"Sparky" <> wrote in message
>>>news:zUMrf.10565$.. .
>>>
>>>>I have an NEC DVD_RW ND 1300A combo drive, which was working
>>>>perfectly a week ago. Now it no longer recognises CD's placed in the
>>>>drive.
>>>>If I put a DVD in it will recognise it and read it.
>>>>If I put in a CD NOTHING I just get the following message
>>>>
>>>> "PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>>>>
>>>>And YES there is a CD in. This is the same for CD's I have burnt AS
>>>>WELL as comercially crerated CD's
>>>>It will not read music CD's
>>>>It will not even read the WINXP HOME installation CD.
>>>>
>>>>THINGS I HAVE DONE
>>>>
>>>>Removed the drive from SYSTEM in CPL re installed same problem
>>>>
>>>>Uninstalled the driver re-insatlled same problem. I am guessing I
>>>>am re-installing the driver from WINDOWS directory as the WINXP CD
>>>>cannot be read.
>>>>
>>>>I cannot roll back to a previous driver None to go back to?
>>>>
>>>>Been to GOOGLE to look for drivers cannot find any
>>>>
>>>>NEC website cannot find drivers there
>>>>
>>>>Am about to biff this into the bin and get another drive
>>>>BEFORE I do that anyone got any ideas I have not tried or help?
>>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>As a remote possibility, have you installed any games in the last
>>>week? Specifically, ones that use StarForce copy protection?
>>>
>>>StarForce installs some nasty device drivers that have been known to
>>>hijack and kill CD-ROM drives.
>>>
>>>--
>>
>>
>> A simple way to determine if the problem is software-related is to run
>> msconfig and reboot in diagnostic mode with all startup programs and
>> non-essential services disabled. If you then have access to CDs,
>> re-enable each program and service, one-by-one, until you find the
>> culprit.
>
> If he can't even boot from a CD-ROM he won't be able to read one in
> windows. Replace the drive is the only fix I think.

CD's use a different light frequency and focusing system to DVD disks IIRC
in DVD drives. So it is possible for one of them to be stuffed while the
other is OK.

He should try to read a CD in that drive after booting from a known-ok boot
floppy (www.bootdisk.com iirc) or bootable CD (assuming his BIOS supports
cd booting, most have for the last few years).

If booting allows him to read the cd, it's his os or software. If not, it's
hardware. If it's hardware replace it with a new drive - DVD writer, 16x
dual layer goes for as little as $70 NEW mail order. e.g. not worth fixing
that drive, replace it.

--

.... Brendan

#5775 +(8483)- [X]

* ab is away - gone, if anyone talks in the next 25 minutes as me it's bm
being an asshole -
<ab> HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS


Note: All my comments are copyright 27/12/2005 11:39:25 p.m. and are opinion only where not otherwise stated and always "to the best of my recollection". www.computerman.orcon.net.nz.

"Jerry" <> wrote in message
news:43b0e54a$...
> Impossible wrote:
>> "Mark Remfrey" <remfreym_nospam_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsPVrf.10638$...
>>
>>>"Sparky" <> wrote in message
>>>news:zUMrf.10565$.. .
>>>
>>>>I have an NEC DVD_RW ND 1300A combo drive, which was working
>>>>perfectly a week ago. Now it no longer recognises CD's placed in
>>>>the drive.
>>>>If I put a DVD in it will recognise it and read it.
>>>>If I put in a CD NOTHING I just get the following message
>>>>
>>>> "PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>>>>
>>>>And YES there is a CD in. This is the same for CD's I have burnt
>>>>AS WELL as comercially crerated CD's
>>>>It will not read music CD's
>>>>It will not even read the WINXP HOME installation CD.
>>>>
>>>>THINGS I HAVE DONE
>>>>
>>>>Removed the drive from SYSTEM in CPL re installed same problem
>>>>
>>>>Uninstalled the driver re-insatlled same problem. I am guessing I
>>>>am re-installing the driver from WINDOWS directory as the WINXP CD
>>>>cannot be read.
>>>>
>>>>I cannot roll back to a previous driver None to go back to?
>>>>
>>>>Been to GOOGLE to look for drivers cannot find any
>>>>
>>>>NEC website cannot find drivers there
>>>>
>>>>Am about to biff this into the bin and get another drive
>>>>BEFORE I do that anyone got any ideas I have not tried or help?
>>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>As a remote possibility, have you installed any games in the last
>>>week? Specifically, ones that use StarForce copy protection?
>>>
>>>StarForce installs some nasty device drivers that have been known
>>>to hijack and kill CD-ROM drives.
>>>
>>>--
>>
>>
>> A simple way to determine if the problem is software-related is to
>> run msconfig and reboot in diagnostic mode with all startup
>> programs and non-essential services disabled. If you then have
>> access to CDs, re-enable each program and service, one-by-one,
>> until you find the culprit.
>
> If he can't even boot from a CD-ROM he won't be able to read one in
> windows. Replace the drive is the only fix I think.

Not necessarily. There are several reports of fixes for this kind of
problem that involve disabling/uninstalling startup programs.
Certainly worth 5 minutes to check before giving up on the hardware.

Impossible wrote:
> "Jerry" <> wrote in message
> news:43b0e54a$...
>
>>Impossible wrote:
>>
>>>"Mark Remfrey" <remfreym_nospam_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>newsPVrf.10638$.. .
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Sparky" <> wrote in message
>>>>news:zUMrf.10565$. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have an NEC DVD_RW ND 1300A combo drive, which was working
>>>>>perfectly a week ago. Now it no longer recognises CD's placed in
>>>>>the drive.
>>>>>If I put a DVD in it will recognise it and read it.
>>>>>If I put in a CD NOTHING I just get the following message
>>>>>
>>>>>"PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>>>>>
>>>>>And YES there is a CD in. This is the same for CD's I have burnt
>>>>>AS WELL as comercially crerated CD's
>>>>>It will not read music CD's
>>>>>It will not even read the WINXP HOME installation CD.
>>>>>
>>>>>THINGS I HAVE DONE
>>>>>
>>>>>Removed the drive from SYSTEM in CPL re installed same problem
>>>>>
>>>>>Uninstalled the driver re-insatlled same problem. I am guessing I
>>>>>am re-installing the driver from WINDOWS directory as the WINXP CD
>>>>>cannot be read.
>>>>>
>>>>>I cannot roll back to a previous driver None to go back to?
>>>>>
>>>>>Been to GOOGLE to look for drivers cannot find any
>>>>>
>>>>>NEC website cannot find drivers there
>>>>>
>>>>>Am about to biff this into the bin and get another drive
>>>>>BEFORE I do that anyone got any ideas I have not tried or help?
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>As a remote possibility, have you installed any games in the last
>>>>week? Specifically, ones that use StarForce copy protection?
>>>>
>>>>StarForce installs some nasty device drivers that have been known
>>>>to hijack and kill CD-ROM drives.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>
>>>
>>>A simple way to determine if the problem is software-related is to
>>>run msconfig and reboot in diagnostic mode with all startup
>>>programs and non-essential services disabled. If you then have
>>>access to CDs, re-enable each program and service, one-by-one,
>>>until you find the culprit.
>>
>>If he can't even boot from a CD-ROM he won't be able to read one in
>>windows. Replace the drive is the only fix I think.
>
>
> Not necessarily. There are several reports of fixes for this kind of
> problem that involve disabling/uninstalling startup programs.
> Certainly worth 5 minutes to check before giving up on the hardware.

In his second post Sparky said "NOPE.. cannot boot from ANY CD .. Drive
does not recognise CD's just DVD's".

Windows has not even started to load when booting from a CD, the BIOS
hasn't even tried the HDD boot record. You can unplug the HDD and boot
from a CD. He has a hardware problem, probably the DVD drive, possibly
but not likely, IDE channel on the MB

"Jerry" <> wrote in message
news:43b1813b$...
> Impossible wrote:
>> "Jerry" <> wrote in message
>> news:43b0e54a$...
>>
>>>Impossible wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mark Remfrey" <remfreym_nospam_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>newsPVrf.10638$. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Sparky" <> wrote in message
>>>>>news:zUMrf.10565$.. .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have an NEC DVD_RW ND 1300A combo drive, which was working
>>>>>>perfectly a week ago. Now it no longer recognises CD's placed in
>>>>>>the drive.
>>>>>>If I put a DVD in it will recognise it and read it.
>>>>>>If I put in a CD NOTHING I just get the following message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"PLEASE INSERT A DISC INTO DRIVE F"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And YES there is a CD in. This is the same for CD's I have burnt
>>>>>>AS WELL as comercially crerated CD's
>>>>>>It will not read music CD's
>>>>>>It will not even read the WINXP HOME installation CD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THINGS I HAVE DONE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Removed the drive from SYSTEM in CPL re installed same problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uninstalled the driver re-insatlled same problem. I am guessing
>>>>>>I am re-installing the driver from WINDOWS directory as the
>>>>>>WINXP CD cannot be read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I cannot roll back to a previous driver None to go back to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Been to GOOGLE to look for drivers cannot find any
>>>>>>
>>>>>>NEC website cannot find drivers there
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Am about to biff this into the bin and get another drive
>>>>>>BEFORE I do that anyone got any ideas I have not tried or help?
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>As a remote possibility, have you installed any games in the last
>>>>>week? Specifically, ones that use StarForce copy protection?
>>>>>
>>>>>StarForce installs some nasty device drivers that have been known
>>>>>to hijack and kill CD-ROM drives.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A simple way to determine if the problem is software-related is to
>>>>run msconfig and reboot in diagnostic mode with all startup
>>>>programs and non-essential services disabled. If you then have
>>>>access to CDs, re-enable each program and service, one-by-one,
>>>>until you find the culprit.
>>>
>>>If he can't even boot from a CD-ROM he won't be able to read one in
>>>windows. Replace the drive is the only fix I think.
>>
>>
>> Not necessarily. There are several reports of fixes for this kind
>> of problem that involve disabling/uninstalling startup programs.
>> Certainly worth 5 minutes to check before giving up on the
>> hardware.
>
> In his second post Sparky said "NOPE.. cannot boot from ANY CD ..
> Drive does not recognise CD's just DVD's".
>
> Windows has not even started to load when booting from a CD, the
> BIOS hasn't even tried the HDD boot record. You can unplug the HDD
> and boot from a CD. He has a hardware problem, probably the DVD
> drive, possibly but not likely, IDE channel on the MB

Sparky never mentioned that he'd EVER booted from a bootable CD
before -- only that he'd never had problems reading CDs in Windows. If
the bios isn't set for a CD boot to begin with, then scrapping the
drive on the basis of that "test" would be premature, I'd say.

In any case, relax -- we're all just trying to be helpful here. It
never hurts to try one more thing.