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Rider
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      11-03-2005
All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk. Install
XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall and put the
wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all go.

Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to safe
mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.

Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires activation!!!!

Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ... apart
from formatting the HDD during the install.

Rider


 
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      11-03-2005
Rider wrote:
> All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk. Install
> XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall and put the
> wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all go.
>
> Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
> until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
> files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to safe
> mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.
>
> Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires activation!!!!
>
> Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ... apart
> from formatting the HDD during the install.
>
> Rider
>
>

Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt
activate over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to
an 0800 number
 
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Rider
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      11-03-2005

"David" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Rider wrote:
>> All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk.
>> Install XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall
>> and put the wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all
>> go.
>>
>> Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
>> until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
>> files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to
>> safe mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.
>>
>> Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires
>> activation!!!!
>>
>> Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ...
>> apart from formatting the HDD during the install.
>>
>> Rider
>>
>>

> Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
> copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt activate
> over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to an 0800
> number


Activating isn't the issue. I will just activate it.

I just wanted to see if the workaround .. actually worked ... and it didn't.
So I'm curious if I mucked it up, or if no one has been able to do it.

Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
just reinstalling a clean OS.

Rider


 
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colinco
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      11-03-2005
In article Rider says...
> Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
> just reinstalling a clean OS.
>

In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?
 
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      11-03-2005
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 21:22:28 +1300, "Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>"David" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>message news:Nvjaf.487$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Rider wrote:
>>> All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk.
>>> Install XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall
>>> and put the wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all
>>> go.
>>>
>>> Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
>>> until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
>>> files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to
>>> safe mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.
>>>
>>> Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires
>>> activation!!!!
>>>
>>> Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ...
>>> apart from formatting the HDD during the install.
>>>
>>> Rider
>>>
>>>

>> Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
>> copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt activate
>> over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to an 0800
>> number

>
>Activating isn't the issue. I will just activate it.
>
>I just wanted to see if the workaround .. actually worked ... and it didn't.
>So I'm curious if I mucked it up, or if no one has been able to do it.
>
>Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
>just reinstalling a clean OS.
>
>Rider
>




This method to backup wpa files to disk. does not work 100% more like 30%
of the time.


 
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Rider
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      11-03-2005

"colinco" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article Rider says...
>> Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
>> just reinstalling a clean OS.
>>

> In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
> OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?


I used the XP install CD the client gave me, and the CD key form the side of
his case.

The only thing that might have changed is if the original install was on a
FAT32 partition. I use NTFS partitions.



 
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Impossible
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      11-03-2005
"Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cTtaf.533$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "colinco" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article Rider says...
>>> Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and
>>> we're
>>> just reinstalling a clean OS.
>>>

>> In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
>> OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?

>
> I used the XP install CD the client gave me, and the CD key form the
> side of his case.
>
> The only thing that might have changed is if the original install
> was on a FAT32 partition. I use NTFS partitions.
>


This may help: http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php

Two things are recorded for disks: the number of the disk drive
itself, and the Volume Serial Number (VSN) of the partition on it.
HINT No. 1: The VSN is part of the data in the partition's first
sector, so it is changed when you reformat the drive. It is worth
getting the freeware utility Volume ID to restore the original VSN.
Before you reformat, run VOL from a Command Prompt, note the VSN
(e.g., 1F2E-3C4B) in the second line. Then, after the reformat and new
Windows XP installation, defer the new activation until you have run
Volume ID to restore the old VSN, and rebooted. This is not essential
- but it saves one of the 'Yes votes' against any future hardware
change. (If you don't wish to run this utility, the next best way to
obtain the same result would be to delete the old Win XP files from
the hard drive before reinstalling, rather than actually
reformatting.)

HINT No. 2: Another thing that changes the VSN is converting a FAT 32
partition to NTFS. So, if you upgrade a system using FAT 32 to Windows
XP and intend to convert to NTFS, do the conversion before activating
the system. Remember, you can wait a while: you have 30 days before
you need to activate. The machine's hardware at the time of the first
activation is what counts. Or, if you have already activated, use
Volume ID as described in Hint No. 1. If you are doing this after
activation, also first back up the WPA.DBL and WPA.BAK files, as
described in Hint No. 3 below, and, after completion of the
conversion, restore these files and reboot again.

HINT No. 3: It is valuable to back up the two files WPA.DBL and
WPA.BAK from the Windows\System32 folder.Then, should they get
damaged, or should you do a 'Repair' reinstallation of Win XP, these
files can be copied back to restore the prior activation status.
However, this only works in those limited circumstances. The contents
of these two files is matched to the specific Windows setup;
therefore, contrary to what many journalists and members of the user
community have written in recent months, restoring these files will
not restore your activation status following a reformat and clean
install.




 
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      11-03-2005

"Impossible" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:cTtaf.533$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "colinco" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> In article Rider says...
>>>> Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and
>>>> we're
>>>> just reinstalling a clean OS.
>>>>
>>> In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
>>> OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?

>>
>> I used the XP install CD the client gave me, and the CD key form the side
>> of his case.
>>
>> The only thing that might have changed is if the original install was on
>> a FAT32 partition. I use NTFS partitions.
>>

>
> This may help: http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php
>
> Two things are recorded for disks: the number of the disk drive
> itself, and the Volume Serial Number (VSN) of the partition on it.
> HINT No. 1: The VSN is part of the data in the partition's first
> sector, so it is changed when you reformat the drive. It is worth
> getting the freeware utility Volume ID to restore the original VSN.
> Before you reformat, run VOL from a Command Prompt, note the VSN
> (e.g., 1F2E-3C4B) in the second line. Then, after the reformat and new
> Windows XP installation, defer the new activation until you have run
> Volume ID to restore the old VSN, and rebooted. This is not essential
> - but it saves one of the 'Yes votes' against any future hardware
> change. (If you don't wish to run this utility, the next best way to
> obtain the same result would be to delete the old Win XP files from
> the hard drive before reinstalling, rather than actually
> reformatting.)
>
> HINT No. 2: Another thing that changes the VSN is converting a FAT 32
> partition to NTFS. So, if you upgrade a system using FAT 32 to Windows
> XP and intend to convert to NTFS, do the conversion before activating
> the system. Remember, you can wait a while: you have 30 days before
> you need to activate. The machine's hardware at the time of the first
> activation is what counts. Or, if you have already activated, use
> Volume ID as described in Hint No. 1. If you are doing this after
> activation, also first back up the WPA.DBL and WPA.BAK files, as
> described in Hint No. 3 below, and, after completion of the
> conversion, restore these files and reboot again.
>
> HINT No. 3: It is valuable to back up the two files WPA.DBL and
> WPA.BAK from the Windows\System32 folder.Then, should they get
> damaged, or should you do a 'Repair' reinstallation of Win XP, these
> files can be copied back to restore the prior activation status.
> However, this only works in those limited circumstances. The contents
> of these two files is matched to the specific Windows setup;
> therefore, contrary to what many journalists and members of the user
> community have written in recent months, restoring these files will
> not restore your activation status following a reformat and clean
> install.
>
>
>
>


Yeah, thanks. I'd read and its the only thing that might have changed.

Rider


 
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S Roby
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      11-04-2005
There is a crack available to get rid of activation 'issues"
Works fine on XP Pro

I thinks these are the files ( there are many XP cracks that just dont work)
Most XP keygens are BS, they just give you 'stolen' keys from a list.

WPA_Kill.exe
windowsxpwpapatchv1.1patch.zip

I used this after a legitimate install & didnt want to spend 10minutes on the
phone as the PC has no internet connection.
 
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      11-04-2005

"David" <> wrote

> Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
> copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt activate
> over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to an 0800
> number


I had occassion to call that 0800 number once, to activate a product I had
recently bought - it wouldn't activate via the 'net.

The line was *terrible*, the delay in the call was *awful* and the woman in
(I assume) Delhi spoke pretty poor English. She was also the most annoying
customer "service" person I have ever had the misfortune to deal with.

Microsoft are *frigging* useless!

The conversation went something like this...

Me: I want to activate a product I just bought.

Microsoft: You are a software pirate.

Me: !!! I have the receipt right here! I can quote you the details! I only
bought the product today!

Microsoft: I have no way of checking that.

Me: I have the little hologram sticker on the back of the jewel case. The
number is...

Microsoft: I have no way of checking that.

Me: Let me speak to your supervisor.

Microsoft: (bored) give me the details.

Two seconds later, the product was activated. Amazing. It took me many
minutes to get to that point.



 
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