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http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug

But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I guess
the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's probably safe
to assume it will never happen because negotiating just for NZ is not
going to be worth Apple's while.

So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.

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In <> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>
> But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I
> guess the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's
> probably safe to assume it will never happen because negotiating just
> for NZ is not going to be worth Apple's while.
>
> So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.

Yes, it's a shame there's absolutely no way to legally buy music in New
Zealand. You'd think some enterprising person would find a way around it.
Perhaps someone could set up a service where they would download the
albums from an online store and burn them to a CD for you. Hell, maybe
they could come up with an arrangement with the publishers where they
could just get the music straight from them, and even get some CDs
pressed with music on them, and if there was enough demand they could
even sell them through shops in every town.

Yes, it's a pity that no one's thought of doing that.

--
Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand
http://roger.geek.nz/
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Roger Johnstone wrote:
> In <> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
>
>>http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>>
>>But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I
>>guess the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's
>>probably safe to assume it will never happen because negotiating just
>>for NZ is not going to be worth Apple's while.
>>
>>So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.
>
>
> Yes, it's a shame there's absolutely no way to legally buy music in New
> Zealand. You'd think some enterprising person would find a way around it.

There are several - including http://www.cokefridge.co.nz/
http://digirama.co.nz/ and http://www.amplifier.co.nz/

> Perhaps someone could set up a service where they would download the
> albums from an online store and burn them to a CD for you. Hell, maybe
> they could come up with an arrangement with the publishers where they
> could just get the music straight from them, and even get some CDs
> pressed with music on them, and if there was enough demand they could
> even sell them through shops in every town.

It seems its illegal to format shift from CD to digital media so you can
put it on a portable audio device. Don't know what all the white earbud
attired crowd are listening to then...

> Yes, it's a pity that no one's thought of doing that.
>

Roger Johnstone wrote:
> In <> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>>
>> But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I
>> guess the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's
>> probably safe to assume it will never happen because negotiating just
>> for NZ is not going to be worth Apple's while.
>>
>> So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.
>
> Yes, it's a shame there's absolutely no way to legally buy music in New
> Zealand. You'd think some enterprising person would find a way around it.
> Perhaps someone could set up a service where they would download the
> albums from an online store and burn them to a CD for you. Hell, maybe
> they could come up with an arrangement with the publishers where they
> could just get the music straight from them, and even get some CDs
> pressed with music on them, and if there was enough demand they could
> even sell them through shops in every town.
>
> Yes, it's a pity that no one's thought of doing that.
>

A legal method of copying the content of those CDs onto a portable mp3
player would be nice.

The law is a buggers muddle, and Apple are selling their ipods with
itunes and generating an expectation from the naive and gullible public
that the first step of the itunes setup, to go to the online store will
work.

Its bullshit Roger, so stop the sarcastic wank.

Aaron Lawrence wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>
> But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I guess
> the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's probably safe
> to assume it will never happen because negotiating just for NZ is not
> going to be worth Apple's while.
>
> So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.
>
Why rant and whine about "the NZ industry" its as much your fault as theirs.
The Itunes store service is solely Apples responsibility.
Take your ipod back to the store and tell them that Apple is not
delivering the package of capabilities you bought.

Nathan Mercer <> wrote:

>Roger Johnstone wrote:
>> In <> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>>>
>>>But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I
>>>guess the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's
>>>probably safe to assume it will never happen because negotiating just
>>>for NZ is not going to be worth Apple's while.
>>>
>>>So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.
>>
>>
>> Yes, it's a shame there's absolutely no way to legally buy music in New
>> Zealand. You'd think some enterprising person would find a way around it.
>
>There are several - including http://www.cokefridge.co.nz/
>http://digirama.co.nz/ and http://www.amplifier.co.nz/
>
>> Perhaps someone could set up a service where they would download the
>> albums from an online store and burn them to a CD for you. Hell, maybe
>> they could come up with an arrangement with the publishers where they
>> could just get the music straight from them, and even get some CDs
>> pressed with music on them, and if there was enough demand they could
>> even sell them through shops in every town.
>
>It seems its illegal to format shift from CD to digital media so you can
>put it on a portable audio device. Don't know what all the white earbud
>attired crowd are listening to then...
>
>> Yes, it's a pity that no one's thought of doing that.
>>

Forget Cokefridge if you use a browser other than IE6 You get chucked
out with
"the site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 with
Windows Media Player 7 (or later) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. To
email our customer support team"

Digirama . fairly limited for what I want and at $1.69 slightly
expensive..

Amplifier at $ 1.99 you may as well got to the Warehouse and buy the
CD..Also limited choice.

Mutlley wrote:
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>>>>
>>>>But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I
>>>>guess the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's
>>>>probably safe to assume it will never happen because negotiating just
>>>>for NZ is not going to be worth Apple's while.
>>>>
>>>>So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, it's a shame there's absolutely no way to legally buy music in New
>>>Zealand. You'd think some enterprising person would find a way around it.
>>
>>There are several - including http://www.cokefridge.co.nz/
>>http://digirama.co.nz/ and http://www.amplifier.co.nz/
>>
>>
>>>Perhaps someone could set up a service where they would download the
>>>albums from an online store and burn them to a CD for you. Hell, maybe
>>>they could come up with an arrangement with the publishers where they
>>>could just get the music straight from them, and even get some CDs
>>>pressed with music on them, and if there was enough demand they could
>>>even sell them through shops in every town.
>>
>>It seems its illegal to format shift from CD to digital media so you can
>>put it on a portable audio device. Don't know what all the white earbud
>>attired crowd are listening to then...
>>
>>
>>>Yes, it's a pity that no one's thought of doing that.
>>>
>
>
> Forget Cokefridge if you use a browser other than IE6 You get chucked
> out with
> "the site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 with
> Windows Media Player 7 (or later) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. To
> email our customer support team"
>
> Digirama . fairly limited for what I want and at $1.69 slightly
> expensive..
>
> Amplifier at $ 1.99 you may as well got to the Warehouse and buy the
> CD..Also limited choice.

Agreed, but there are ways to legally buy music, and even ways to
legally buy music digitally and online...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:40:28 +1300, Mutlley wrote:

> Forget Cokefridge if you use a browser other than IE6 You get chucked
> out with
> "the site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 with
> Windows Media Player 7 (or later) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. To
> email our customer support team"
>
> Digirama . fairly limited for what I want and at $1.69 slightly
> expensive..
>
> Amplifier at $ 1.99 you may as well got to the Warehouse and buy the
> CD..Also limited choice.

Market forces are governing.

shannon wrote:
> Roger Johnstone wrote:
>
>> In <> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>>>
>>> But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I
>>> guess the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's
>>> probably safe to assume it will never happen because negotiating
>>> just for NZ is not going to be worth Apple's while.
>>>
>>> So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.
>>
>>
>> Yes, it's a shame there's absolutely no way to legally buy music in
>> New Zealand. You'd think some enterprising person would find a way
>> around it. Perhaps someone could set up a service where they would
>> download the albums from an online store and burn them to a CD for
>> you. Hell, maybe they could come up with an arrangement with the
>> publishers where they could just get the music straight from them, and
>> even get some CDs pressed with music on them, and if there was enough
>> demand they could even sell them through shops in every town.
>>
>> Yes, it's a pity that no one's thought of doing that.
>>
>
> A legal method of copying the content of those CDs onto a portable mp3
> player would be nice.
>
> The law is a buggers muddle, and Apple are selling their ipods with
> itunes and generating an expectation from the naive and gullible public
> that the first step of the itunes setup, to go to the online store will
> work.
>
> Its bullshit Roger, so stop the sarcastic wank.

Shock Horror there are some people that actually think all you just need
is the ipod never mind about the pc. Talk about great marketing. It is
almost like they dont know what an ipod actualy is but they wont one.

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shannon wrote:
> Aaron Lawrence wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/7l7ug
>>
>> But without NZ involved or even planned. How freaking pathetic. I
>> guess the NZ industry sat on their ass and did nothing. Now it's
>> probably safe to assume it will never happen because negotiating just
>> for NZ is not going to be worth Apple's while.
>>
>> So, clearly P2P is the only answer we're going to get.
>>
> Why rant and whine about "the NZ industry" its as much your fault as
> theirs.
> The Itunes store service is solely Apples responsibility.
> Take your ipod back to the store and tell them that Apple is not
> delivering the package of capabilities you bought.
That sounds Like a CGA complant.

How do you use the nice shiny palstic thing with out breaking the law?

ROTFL

The last person I spoke to was very clear on the fact format shifting is
verry aganst the law in NZ it is just they turn a blind eye to it
unofficialy. Imagine police with a scearc warrent to bust little johny
with his Ipod.
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http://cooze.co.nz home of the RecyclerMan aka Robert Cooze

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