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Hi there,

Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
> XP wrote:
>
>>>>> Most Monitors Won't Play New HD Video
>>>>> This is now getting so pathetic..
>>>>> http://pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122738,00.asp
>
>
>> Any way who in his right mind would play a HD DVD on a PC..?
>
>
> those that don't have a DVD player but do have a tuner in their PC and
> an HDTV for their PC monitor(my bro in law).
>
>> Lets stop feeding the Lion, lets starve it to death..
>
> I assume you mean MS? so when you going to try Linux/Lunix?

Good grief! I'm prepared to put money on the fact that Woger
will quietly backtrack on his statement, and whimper as he
heads to the store to purchase the highly overpriced system
that MS will require anyone to have to watch hd-dvd on their
new Windows Vista...



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Hi there,

GraB wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:33:08 +1300, XP
> <> wrote:
>
>
>>Most Monitors Won't Play New HD Video
>>
>>
>>This is now getting so pathetic..
>>
>>http://pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122738,00.asp
>>
>
> So that counts me out. There is no way I will be going anywhere near
> Vista. But I strongly suspect that in most places the uptake of HD
> Video will be slow. As it is, current TV technology doesn't get the
> best out of current DVDs anyway.
>
> I played "Lost In Translation" on my PC recently, with ATI-driven 19"
> CRT monitor. The sheer quality of the picture of that movie on the
> monitor was very impressive. I don't see how HD Video could be
> better.

I playback DVD on a 19" at 1920x1440 (scaled up obviously). That makes
for stunning picture quality, as you have seen on your own system. I've
been meaning to test render 2 identical animations, and encode them
as MPEG-4...the scenes are precisely the same, but one will render and
encode at 1920x1440 (4:3 aspect) res, the other at PAL res...

It should be interesting to see how much better the high-res render will
animate. It might also be interesting to see if I have enough CPU grunt
to decode such a high-res MPEG-4 stream at 25fps!

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GraB wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:25:04 +1300, steve
> <> wrote:
>
>>Nathan Mercer wrote:
>>
>>> Studios don't want to release HD content unless they can protect it.
>>> It won't just be Windows that implements the copy protection mechanisms.
>>
>>Doesn't matter.
>>
>>We don't NEED that content anyway.
>>
>>Life is full of other choices.
>>
>>The record companies think that downloading is killing sales.
>>
>>That's a good laugh. A lot of people just don't BUY records anymore either
>>because the music has little appeal or the price of a CD is too much to
>>bear.
>>
>>$32 for a plastic disk with 15 songs - most of which I've never heard?
>>
>>Why waste the money?
>>
>>More and more people don't.....whether they download or not.
>
> I fully agree with this.

I think the market is moving on without them as podcasting takes off.
Watch those sales plummet
Even NZ independent record labels are producing podcasts now.
http://psurkit.net/
http://www.podcast.net/show/42288
http://www.podcast.net/show/6957
Just look for whatever takes your fancy philosophy, drama, comedy, music,
whatever and customise your content.
http://www.podcast.net/search
There are excellent free apps like ipodder

steve wrote:
> Nathan Mercer wrote:
>
>
>>Studios don't want to release HD content unless they can protect it.
>>It won't just be Windows that implements the copy protection mechanisms.
>
>
> Doesn't matter.
>
> We don't NEED that content anyway.
>
> Life is full of other choices.
>
> The record companies think that downloading is killing sales.
>
> That's a good laugh. A lot of people just don't BUY records anymore either
> because the music has little appeal or the price of a CD is too much to
> bear.
>
> $32 for a plastic disk with 15 songs - most of which I've never heard?
>
> Why waste the money?
>
> More and more people don't.....whether they download or not.
>
I used to be a big buyer of LP's and CD's (shows my age). In the last 10
years I have only baught about 10~15 and five of those were for my under
five kids. My problem is I have a massive collection wich I can always
find somthing to listen to, I don't have the time to look for new stuff
and the radio and tv don't play the stuff I would be interested (some
of the up and comming NZ stuff is getting my attention). So if I had a
wad of cash it is very hard for me to spend it on cd's the stuff i have
down loaded and riped of stuff i DON'T own accounts for less than 0.1%
of my collection and of that If it has lasted more than 2 months of play
and has not been deleated or forgotton about then I have gone about and
bought it. Is it just age or changing taste or dare I say crap tm music
lables.

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Robert Cooze wrote:


> I used to be a big buyer of LP's and CD's (shows my age). In the last 10
> years I have only baught about 10~15 and five of those were for my under
> five kids. My problem is I have a massive collection wich I can always
> find somthing to listen to, I don't have the time to look for new stuff
> and the radio and tv don't play the stuff I would be interested (some
> of the up and comming NZ stuff is getting my attention). So if I had a
> wad of cash it is very hard for me to spend it on cd's the stuff i have
> down loaded and riped of stuff i DON'T own accounts for less than 0.1%
> of my collection and of that If it has lasted more than 2 months of play
> and has not been deleated or forgotton about then I have gone about and
> bought it. Is it just age or changing taste or dare I say crap tm music
> lables.
>

You would have to say that the writing is on the wall for the multinational
record labels when the four top New Zealand Music Awards go to a band self
managed, self recorded and produced, self funded and independently
distributed.

In article <>,
Mutlley <> wrote:
>
>The Finish laws also make it illegal to talk about such things as
>bypassing encryption etc on news groups like this. I'm sure NZ will
>be encouraged to follow suit by Hollywood..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10...lands_drm_law/

This law came up a few months ago, and was shot down by vigorous public
opposition. This week it reappeared and was passed with indecent haste
(sound familiar?). Apparenty there was one particularly "thick-headed"
politician who pushed it through, and has destroyed her chances of being
re-elected in the process.

An example of the problems this law will cause is that there is an existing
law that clearly and concisely allows copying for personal use. The two laws
are thus in direct conflict. Public opinion is that the new law will simply
be ignored unless the copyright holders try to use it in court, at which
point it will probably be repealed.

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(Don Hills) wrote:

>In article <>,
>Mutlley <> wrote:
>>
>>The Finish laws also make it illegal to talk about such things as
>>bypassing encryption etc on news groups like this. I'm sure NZ will
>>be encouraged to follow suit by Hollywood..
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10...lands_drm_law/
>
>This law came up a few months ago, and was shot down by vigorous public
>opposition. This week it reappeared and was passed with indecent haste
>(sound familiar?). Apparenty there was one particularly "thick-headed"
>politician who pushed it through, and has destroyed her chances of being
>re-elected in the process.
>

I guess they don't have MMP over there otherwise she would pushed up
the party list and ensured of a place in GVT to make more dumb
decisions..

shannon wrote:
> Robert Cooze wrote:
>
>
>
>>I used to be a big buyer of LP's and CD's (shows my age). In the last 10
>>years I have only baught about 10~15 and five of those were for my under
>>five kids. My problem is I have a massive collection wich I can always
>>find somthing to listen to, I don't have the time to look for new stuff
>> and the radio and tv don't play the stuff I would be interested (some
>>of the up and comming NZ stuff is getting my attention). So if I had a
>>wad of cash it is very hard for me to spend it on cd's the stuff i have
>>down loaded and riped of stuff i DON'T own accounts for less than 0.1%
>>of my collection and of that If it has lasted more than 2 months of play
>>and has not been deleated or forgotton about then I have gone about and
>>bought it. Is it just age or changing taste or dare I say crap tm music
>>lables.
>>
>
>
> You would have to say that the writing is on the wall for the multinational
> record labels when the four top New Zealand Music Awards go to a band self
> managed, self recorded and produced, self funded and independently
> distributed.
>
One of the groupe I Listen called Sigue sigue Sputnik an offshoot of
generation X the groupe that Billy Idol came from. After being riped off
by the big companys they discovered MACS and the Web. Now they are verry
happy preforming producing and recordiong and reinventing them self as
they wish.

Now if i wish on this PC and the stuff I have arround home I could
record a song and make a vidieo for it if I wanted to. Just one problem
I have no Natral singing, music or writing tellent

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In article <434474d6$>,
Evil Bastard <> wrote:

>XP wrote:
>> Most Monitors Won't Play New HD Video
>> This is now getting so pathetic..
>> http://pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122738,00.asp
>
>Makes me wonder how far we are away from the 'DRM Helmet', or something
>functionally similar:
>
>http://www.oreillynet.com/1540.html

You know how some companies are coming up with ways to subtly alter the
projection of movies in cinemas to make it difficult or impossible for
camcorders to capture the images?

I wonder how long it will be before that kind of technology shows up in
PC monitors...

In article <4344aab8$>, Nathan Mercer <>
wrote:

>Studios don't want to release HD content unless they can protect it.

Let me offer a counterexample to that claim: DVD copy protection and
region control has now been rendered a completely ineffective farce. Yet
do we see the supply of new DVD titles drying up any time soon? No we do
not.

Conclusion: the studios cannot help themselves but do business, copy
protection or no copy protection. Releasing content in an unprotected
format is preferable to not releasing content at all. QED.