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A
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      10-05-2005

I finally got my wireless network up and running (well sharing the
internet connection part anyway).

The concern that I have is that the wireless router I have (a linksys
befw11) is fairly old. Aside from only supporting 802.11b (which is
more than enough for my needs) it only supports 128bit WEP security
with no MAC filtering.

Will this be enough? I know WEP is a bit dated and isn't that secure.

However I live in the suburbs in a cul de sac and 802.11b has a range
of about 33m on a good day. That means that the only people that can
hack into my system would be my immediate neighbours or a serious
hacker sitting outside my house with a laptop (unlikely).

Have I got enough security or should I go buy a 802.11g wireless
router that provides more security?




 
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steve
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      10-05-2005
A wrote:

> However I live in the suburbs in a cul de sac and 802.11b has a range
> of about 33m on a good day. That means that the only people that can
> hack into my system would be my immediate neighbours or a serious
> hacker sitting outside my house with a laptop (unlikely).
>
> Have I got enough security or should I go buy a 802.11g wireless
> router that provides more security?


I use the same principle.

My house is about 50 metres from the road. I've never had usable wireless
reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I can't
see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.

I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will have
to be camping in a paddock near the house.


 
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      10-05-2005
steve wrote:

> I use the same principle.
>
> My house is about 50 metres from the road. I've never had usable wireless
> reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I can't
> see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.
>
> I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will have
> to be camping in a paddock near the house.


Or have a 24dB grid or even a cantenna at some distance from your house
 
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Shane
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      10-05-2005
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 22:25:38 +1300, steve wrote:

> A wrote:
>
>> However I live in the suburbs in a cul de sac and 802.11b has a range of
>> about 33m on a good day. That means that the only people that can hack
>> into my system would be my immediate neighbours or a serious hacker
>> sitting outside my house with a laptop (unlikely).
>>
>> Have I got enough security or should I go buy a 802.11g wireless router
>> that provides more security?

>
> I use the same principle.
>
> My house is about 50 metres from the road. I've never had usable wireless
> reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I can't
> see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.
>
> I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will have
> to be camping in a paddock near the house.


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steve
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      10-06-2005
Richard wrote:

> steve wrote:
>
>> I use the same principle.
>>
>> My house is about 50 metres from the road. I've never had usable wireless
>> reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I can't
>> see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.
>>
>> I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will
>> have to be camping in a paddock near the house.

>
> Or have a 24dB grid or even a cantenna at some distance from your house


Good luck to them.
 
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ShuckItAnShee
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      10-06-2005

"steve" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Richard wrote:
>
> > steve wrote:
> >
> >> I use the same principle.
> >>
> >> My house is about 50 metres from the road. I've never had usable

wireless
> >> reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I

can't
> >> see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.
> >>
> >> I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will
> >> have to be camping in a paddock near the house.

> >
> > Or have a 24dB grid or even a cantenna at some distance from your house

>
> Good luck to them.

I think the essence of this is that the evildoers do not require luck;
merely a high-gain antenna.


 
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Dave - Dave.net.nz
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      10-06-2005
ShuckItAnShee wrote:
>>>>reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I
>>>> can't
>>>>see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.


>>>>I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will
>>>>have to be camping in a paddock near the house.


>>>Or have a 24dB grid or even a cantenna at some distance from your house


>>Good luck to them.


> I think the essence of this is that the evildoers do not require luck;
> merely a high-gain antenna.


heh, a wok and a USB wifi adaptor... a bit of duct tape, and all is done.

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      10-06-2005
ShuckItAnShee wrote:
> "steve" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>Richard wrote:
>>
>>
>>>steve wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I use the same principle.
>>>>
>>>>My house is about 50 metres from the road. I've never had usable

>
> wireless
>
>>>>reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I

>
> can't
>
>>>>see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.
>>>>
>>>>I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will
>>>>have to be camping in a paddock near the house.
>>>
>>>Or have a 24dB grid or even a cantenna at some distance from your house

>>
>>Good luck to them.

>
> I think the essence of this is that the evildoers do not require luck;
> merely a high-gain antenna.
>
>

And the application and aptitude to use a unix command line application
to crack the encryption.
 
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Richard
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      10-06-2005
shannon wrote:

> And the application and aptitude to use a unix command line application
> to crack the encryption.


There is a knoppix iso around with all the tools and a web tutorial.
 
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      10-07-2005
Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
> ShuckItAnShee wrote:
>
>>>>> reception at that distance, given my house has metal cladding and I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> see the AP at very short distances if the cladding is in the way.

>
>
>>>>> I use 64-bit WEP encryption.....and anyone wanting to break that will
>>>>> have to be camping in a paddock near the house.

>
>
>>>> Or have a 24dB grid or even a cantenna at some distance from your house

>
>
>>> Good luck to them.

>
>
>> I think the essence of this is that the evildoers do not require luck;
>> merely a high-gain antenna.

>
>
> heh, a wok and a USB wifi adaptor... a bit of duct tape, and all is done.
>


You might also need http://www.knoppix-std.org/

Recent generation wifi chipsets since 2002 apparently don't have as weak
WEP initialisation vectors (IVs)as back in the fashionable wardriving
days so it could take a while.
Don't worry steve, the guy down the road in the white van with the
chinese kitchen tool out the window is a "white hat"
Just call the men in white coats and they will take him away.
 
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