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Hi folks,

I am about to inherit one of these thingies - sometimes I wonder if it's
gonna feel like holding a brick to my head to talk to people.

Does anyone here happen to own - or have owned - one? I am very new to these
type of devices. Actually, I'm new to the world of handheld devices such as
PDAs. Hopefully it will be a nice gentle intro into .NET CF.

I noticed this device can take SD/MMC cards. Which one is better to use? And
what brands are good value? Obviously the device doesn't have that much
space on board for software/data - what sort of stuff can be stored on the
cards? Just data or some software as well?

I know there's a Microsoft MVP for mobile devices lurking around here
somewhere......."Paging Mr Freitas"....

Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Dany.

In article <>,
says...
> Hi folks,
>
> I am about to inherit one of these thingies - sometimes I wonder if it's
> gonna feel like holding a brick to my head to talk to people.
>
> Does anyone here happen to own - or have owned - one? I am very new to these
> type of devices. Actually, I'm new to the world of handheld devices such as
> PDAs. Hopefully it will be a nice gentle intro into .NET CF.
>
> I noticed this device can take SD/MMC cards. Which one is better to use? And
> what brands are good value? Obviously the device doesn't have that much
> space on board for software/data - what sort of stuff can be stored on the
> cards? Just data or some software as well?
>

SD is the more modern standard, go for that one.

In article <>,
says...
> I noticed this device can take SD/MMC cards. Which one is better to use?

Well, I've just looked into this for my Ipaq.

I believe that the SD slot can be used for other things like GPS
receivers.

So, you might be better off to use the slot that can only be used for
memory, leaving your other slot free for future expansion.

D.

use it for system backups.

"Dany P. Wu" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi folks,
>
> I am about to inherit one of these thingies - sometimes I wonder if it's
> gonna feel like holding a brick to my head to talk to people.
>
> Does anyone here happen to own - or have owned - one? I am very new to
> these type of devices. Actually, I'm new to the world of handheld devices
> such as PDAs. Hopefully it will be a nice gentle intro into .NET CF.
>
> I noticed this device can take SD/MMC cards. Which one is better to use?
> And what brands are good value? Obviously the device doesn't have that
> much space on board for software/data - what sort of stuff can be stored
> on the cards? Just data or some software as well?
>
> I know there's a Microsoft MVP for mobile devices lurking around here
> somewhere......."Paging Mr Freitas"....
>
> Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Dany.
>

d wrote:
>>I noticed this device can take SD/MMC cards. Which one is better to use?

> Well, I've just looked into this for my Ipaq.
> I believe that the SD slot can be used for other things like GPS
> receivers.

only if it is an SDIO slot... not sure which the PDA2k has, but
imate.com should know.

> So, you might be better off to use the slot that can only be used for
> memory, leaving your other slot free for future expansion.


--
http://dave.net.nz <- My personal site.

"Dany P. Wu" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi folks,
>
> I am about to inherit one of these thingies - sometimes I wonder if it's
> gonna feel like holding a brick to my head to talk to people.
>
> Does anyone here happen to own - or have owned - one? I am very new to
> these type of devices. Actually, I'm new to the world of handheld devices
> such as PDAs. Hopefully it will be a nice gentle intro into .NET CF.
>
> I noticed this device can take SD/MMC cards. Which one is better to use?
> And what brands are good value? Obviously the device doesn't have that
> much space on board for software/data - what sort of stuff can be stored
> on the cards? Just data or some software as well?
>
> I know there's a Microsoft MVP for mobile devices lurking around here
> somewhere......."Paging Mr Freitas"....
>
> Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Dany.

Hello Dany - sorry for the late reply, as I was in the US for some
conferences, and just got back today.

Try using SD cards. They're faster than most MMC because they have parallel
transfer.

The RAM memory on Windows Mobile 2003 is used for both data and program
execution. The best thing to do though is to have the most free memory as
possible. I have a 1GB SD card on my device and install all programs on this
card, plus data (maps, documents, email attachments). This way you have the
most free RAM possible to run multiple programs.

The OS will keep the programs open (the [X] button is a minimise, not
close), and thus memory is important. Programs will be closed if the memory
becomes low, but I use a program that turns the [X] into a real close
button.


--
Mauricio Freitas, Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.geekzone.co.nz

In article <4348c7e7$>, lid
says...
> The OS will keep the programs open (the [X] button is a minimise, not
> close),
Hmmmm, yet another microsoft UI design success story?

Silly suggestion... Any chance you could feedback to them that they're
violating their own windoze UI guidelines. Not to be nasty, but it's
gotta be confusing a LOT of people. Me included.

I mean, if it's a minimize button, make it look like one. Right?

>but I use a program that turns the [X] into a real close button.

Nice. What's it called? Don't suppose it's free?

D.

"d" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> In article <4348c7e7$>, lid
> says...
>> The OS will keep the programs open (the [X] button is a minimise, not
>> close),
> Hmmmm, yet another microsoft UI design success story?
>
> Silly suggestion... Any chance you could feedback to them that they're
> violating their own windoze UI guidelines. Not to be nasty, but it's
> gotta be confusing a LOT of people. Me included.
>
> I mean, if it's a minimize button, make it look like one. Right?
>
>>but I use a program that turns the [X] into a real close button.
>
> Nice. What's it called? Don't suppose it's free?
>

Ah... Just back from the Microsoft MVP Summit - and I tell you what, this
has been a suggestion for the last few summits, don't worry. The idea is
that developers don't have to worry about state. This is mainly a PDA, and
the main difference between the Windows Mobile and Palm OS is that when ou
go back to a program it is exactly in the same point as it was before. On
Palm OS unless there is some hard coding, the default is to close the
program when you go back to the App Launcher, making users go through
everything again if an option is deep down or a process requires multiple
steps.

For example, on a Pocket PC you can open the web browser and then reaise you
need a password after you have been through two pages. You can switch to a
Password Manager type of program, copy the password and then back on the
browser and paste it. On Palm OS, changing from the browser to App Lancher
will automatically close your page, and you have to go through everything
again - got it?

As for the close buttons - there's a free one called Magic Button. I used it
for a while (long time!) and it's good. But I am currently using Spb Pocket
Plus, because it adds tabs to the Today screen, and you can configure tap,
tap and hold and gesture actions for the [X] button.

--
Mauricio Freitas, Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.geekzone.co.nz

In article <4349673d$>, lid
says...
> "d" <> wrote in message
> Ah... Just back from the Microsoft MVP Summit - and I tell you what, this
> has been a suggestion for the last few summits, don't worry.

Excellent. I'd be nice to have one less thing to confuse us in the
world.


> The idea is
> that developers don't have to worry about state. This is mainly a PDA, and
> the main difference between the Windows Mobile and Palm OS is that when ou
> go back to a program it is exactly in the same point as it was before. On
> Palm OS unless there is some hard coding, the default is to close the
> program when you go back to the App Launcher, making users go through
> everything again if an option is deep down or a process requires multiple
> steps.
Ok, that makes sense. But I've got an ipaq, and I've gotta say, I'd
like apps to close when I tap the button. At the moment I've going to
the task list every now and then, just to close them down. I'll check
out magic button, it sounds like it'll give me the default behaviour I
desire. Thanks.


> As for the close buttons - there's a free one called Magic Button. I used it
> for a while (long time!) and it's good. But I am currently using Spb Pocket
> Plus, because it adds tabs to the Today screen, and you can configure tap,
> tap and hold and gesture actions for the [X] button.

Hmmmmm, I looked at a demo copy of pocket plus, and it looks like a good
product, I just wanted something simple and hopefully free to correct
what I saw as a UI fault.

Anyway, thanks for the help.

D.

<snip>
>
> Hmmmmm, I looked at a demo copy of pocket plus, and it looks like a good
> product, I just wanted something simple and hopefully free to correct
> what I saw as a UI fault.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the help.
>
> D.
Try Magic Button http://www.trancreative.com/ -works great on my 2003SE
Axim.
HTH