>> If you're using a prepaid phone, then you've only got yourself to
>> blame for the fact that you're getting ripped off.
> I disagree - you don't even know what my phone usage is, so I don't
> see how you can justify a comment like that. For example, my total
> prepay costs for the last couple of years is probably around $100.00.
> I'm not saying I'm getting ripped off, I was merely pointing out the
> rate casual data is charged for.
My point was that *if* someone were to use 1Gb of traffic on the casual
data rate without switching to a more economical data plan as you
ridiculously suggest they might, then they only have themselves to blame
for the enormous cost incurred. If you spend $10,000 in return for 1Gb
of GPRS traffic, then you do so by choice.
>> The problem with prepaid phone connections is that they appeal mainly
>> to teenagers, as they are too young to apply for credit and
>> therefore can't be offered a billed account. The fact that teenagers
>> are inexperienced at managing their finances, coupled with the fact
>> that prepaid connections do not offer any regular statement, makes
>> it easy for the phone companies to get away with selling GPRS,
>> ringtones, news bulletins, games, etc. at astronomicallly high
> Again, I disagree with your comments above - and why pick on teenagers
> particularly? A lot of adults cannot manage their finances, either,
> and I know teenagers and younger who manage very well.
> Prepay is used by many of my friends, and we are definitely not
> teenagers. I think prepay is probably used by a lot of people whose
> primary use of the phone is not business, or who make few or only wish
> to accept incoming calls.
> I fail to see how prepay iself, and especially in my case is a worse
> decision than a fixed monthly charge.
It's not if you're very, very rarely making outbound calls and you're
keeping track of your spending. But I would imagine that it's rare for
anyone not to use the phone for some social interaction for a least a
few minutes per week. Even that sort of usage would justify moving from
Prepay to a billed plan.
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:24:13 +1200, Gordon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:49:13 -0700, Philip wrote:
>> Woosh launched a VoIP service, so does it mean they solved their
>> latency problem?
>> It's really expensive, especially compared with www.italk.co.nz or
>> www.sipserve.co.nz. $20 to $25 on top of their required data plans,
>> compared with about $10 for italk and sipserve.
>The VoIP phone is planned to replace Telecoms landline phone. So its not
>really expensive after all eh?
>People we should welcome, and encourage this competition, for we do need
OMG, I looked at the woosh site, they say this
The starter plan to step up to broadband. For the same price as dial
up but up to 5 times faster, this plan is ideal for occasional
Internet users (up to an hour a day) who want to get high speed
Internet and a phone line.
$55 for phone line and 200mb of data.
So if I take off $40 for the telecom rent, that means the internet
would cost $15 a month for 200mb. That's about 4 hours surfing.
Data caps seem so last yeah.
In <(E-Mail Removed)> no wrote:
> OMG, I looked at the woosh site, they say this
> The starter plan to step up to broadband. For the same price as dial
> up but up to 5 times faster, this plan is ideal for occasional
> Internet users (up to an hour a day) who want to get high speed
> Internet and a phone line.
> $55 for phone line and 200mb of data.
> So if I take off $40 for the telecom rent, that means the internet
> would cost $15 a month for 200mb. That's about 4 hours surfing.
> Data caps seem so last yeah.
If you use 50MB/hour just web surfing then you must be doing something
My computer has a permanent Internet connection via Woosh, and I
probably spend an average of two hours a day actively using it. I also
download a few podcasts each week, software and OS updates, and the
occasional 100MB+ file, but my usage is generally less than 1GB per
200MB/month is more than enough for the _typical_ Internet user who's
paying Xtra $10 for 10 hours dial-up modem access per month.
Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand http://vintageware.orcon.net.nz/
No Silicon Heaven? Preposterous! Where would all the calculators go?
Kryten, from the Red Dwarf episode "The Last Day"
Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
> -=rjh=- wrote:
>> Woosh' most recent response - the signal path over water must be
>> causing problems. Funny, cos my cellphone works just fine connecting
>> to cells across the harbour - how is woosh different?
> Woosh put a distance limit of 6.5kms from memory, so even if signal
> strength is good, you won't be able to use it.
Woosh have confirmed this. Maybe someone should tell their helpdesk
about it - this will have wasted a lot of their time, and even more of mine.
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:00:24 +0000, Roger Johnstone wrote:
> If you use 50MB/hour just web surfing then you must be doing something
Well lets define web surfing, downloading files while downloading reading
web pages. Y/N?
> 200MB/month is more than enough for the _typical_ Internet user who's
> paying Xtra $10 for 10 hours dial-up modem access per month.
Let us try to define _typical_ Internet user, ... is there one?
If one wishes to really blow the cap then Bittorrent is your weapon of
Saturate both the up and down links at the same time for hours at a time.
No problem eh?
Nevermind the cap will be higher up as broadband grows.
>>> Woosh' most recent response - the signal path over water must be
>>> causing problems. Funny, cos my cellphone works just fine connecting
>>> to cells across the harbour - how is woosh different?
>> Woosh put a distance limit of 6.5kms from memory, so even if signal
>> strength is good, you won't be able to use it.
> Woosh have confirmed this. Maybe someone should tell their helpdesk
> about it - this will have wasted a lot of their time, and even more of
Same story with spamming my (physical) letter box at my house with a
Woosh flyer when service is not available in the street, or even the suburb