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My parents are finally joining the 20th century and lookign at getting ADSL
or wireless - probably a wireless solution thanks to their phone lines.
1/ Anyone using Wired Country? Any good?
2/ Dad has an Imac - one of the original ones, runing MacOS 9. What is
involved in networking this - probalby wirelessly. I havne't used a Mac
since the days of OS7 and the SE/30. I expect there are some changes...
The Win98 PC in the house is pretty straightfoward.
Geoff

"Geoff M" <> wrote in message
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> My parents are finally joining the 20th century and lookign at getting
> ADSL
> or wireless - probably a wireless solution thanks to their phone lines.
> 1/ Anyone using Wired Country? Any good?

My mothers business runs off it, and seems to be quite good. Havent had
anyone from the office ring screaming their internet has gone down

> 2/ Dad has an Imac - one of the original ones, runing MacOS 9. What is
> involved in networking this - probalby wirelessly. I havne't used a Mac
> since the days of OS7 and the SE/30. I expect there are some changes...
> The Win98 PC in the house is pretty straightfoward.
> Geoff

Havent had too much to do with networking macs except for dialups, but
should be fairly straight forward.

In article <1hv6wjkxhytpk$.1sc5w8bp0ipvs$.>,
Geoff M <> wrote:

> 2/ Dad has an Imac - one of the original ones, runing MacOS 9. What is
> involved in networking this - probalby wirelessly. I havne't used a Mac
> since the days of OS7 and the SE/30. I expect there are some changes...
> The Win98 PC in the house is pretty straightfoward.

Chuck some RAM* at it and crank it up to OSX Panther.

I installed OSX on a 600MHz iBook today (admittedly Tiger, but Panther
is the same in this respect). Without any changes from the original
installation, I plugged an ethernet cable from my router into it, waited
about 15 seconds and watched the Network Preferences announce that it
had successfully connected to the Internet.

I downloaded and installed the half-dozen or so Undaters required
without any settings. Couldn't be any more straight-forward than that.

Actual setting up of the router or wireless connection will be a little
more complex, but not wildly so, just make sure that DHCP is enabled, so
that the above Automatic setup works.

*256 is adequate, more is preferable.
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Chas Right

Geoff M wrote:
> My parents are finally joining the 20th century and lookign at getting ADSL
> or wireless - probably a wireless solution thanks to their phone lines.
> 1/ Anyone using Wired Country? Any good?
> 2/ Dad has an Imac - one of the original ones, runing MacOS 9. What is
> involved in networking this - probalby wirelessly. I havne't used a Mac
> since the days of OS7 and the SE/30. I expect there are some changes...
> The Win98 PC in the house is pretty straightfoward.
> Geoff

Imacs can be funny with ethernet, we have one, in 9.2.2 only works in 10
half-duplex, booting to 10.3 only sees it work on 100 half duplex.

This means when we boot to 9.2.2 we have to move the cat5 cable to a
hub, and when back into 10.3 we have to swap it back to the
switch....damn wierd.

I need to look at 10.4 but I suspect it will now work as 100 full
duplex.....

regards

Thing

Charlie Right wrote:
> In article <1hv6wjkxhytpk$.1sc5w8bp0ipvs$.>,
> Geoff M <> wrote:
>
>
>>2/ Dad has an Imac - one of the original ones, runing MacOS 9. What is
>>involved in networking this - probalby wirelessly. I havne't used a Mac
>>since the days of OS7 and the SE/30. I expect there are some changes...
>>The Win98 PC in the house is pretty straightfoward.
>
>
> Chuck some RAM* at it and crank it up to OSX Panther.
>
> I installed OSX on a 600MHz iBook today (admittedly Tiger, but Panther
> is the same in this respect). Without any changes from the original
> installation, I plugged an ethernet cable from my router into it, waited
> about 15 seconds and watched the Network Preferences announce that it
> had successfully connected to the Internet.
>
> I downloaded and installed the half-dozen or so Undaters required
> without any settings. Couldn't be any more straight-forward than that.
>
> Actual setting up of the router or wireless connection will be a little
> more complex, but not wildly so, just make sure that DHCP is enabled, so
> that the above Automatic setup works.
>
> *256 is adequate, more is preferable.

depends on the cpu.

We run a G3 500Mhz and it takes 25~35% of the cpu just to run the
desktop (this is 10.3 and 10.4).

regards

thing

Charlie Right wrote:
> Chuck some RAM* at it and crank it up to OSX Panther.
> *256 is adequate, more is preferable.

256 is barely adequate. I had a bad stick of RAM (non-apple) and have
just had to drop my PowerBook from 1GB to 512MB. The difference is
*really* apparent, but only really when under a lot of load.

As much as you can get into the machine is probably a good guideline.

Dave

In article <>,
David Preece <> wrote:

>Charlie Right wrote:
>> Chuck some RAM* at it and crank it up to OSX Panther.
>> *256 is adequate, more is preferable.
>
>256 is barely adequate. I had a bad stick of RAM (non-apple) and have
>just had to drop my PowerBook from 1GB to 512MB. The difference is
>*really* apparent, but only really when under a lot of load.

Previous reviews have indicated that the OS X GUI is _extremely_
memory-intensive. Lots of offscreen buffers for all the eye candy.

In article <glntq2->,
thing2 <> wrote:

> depends on the cpu.
>
> We run a G3 500Mhz and it takes 25~35% of the cpu just to run the
> desktop (this is 10.3 and 10.4).

Depends on a lot of things. My 1.2GHz iBook, 768MB, currently running
Tiger, NewsWatcher, Safari, Camino, TextEdit, Activity Monitor, Mail,
Preview and Palm Desktop occasionally gets as high as 30% User, mostly
hovering around 10%. System is sucking 1 to 8%.

My sister runs Panther on a 192MB Bondi Blue iMac for simple email,
light surfing, bit of AppleWorks and Excel with no particular problems.

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Chas Right

In article <nospam->,
Charlie Right <> wrote:

> In article <glntq2->,
> thing2 <> wrote:
>
> > depends on the cpu.
> >
> > We run a G3 500Mhz and it takes 25~35% of the cpu just to run the
> > desktop (this is 10.3 and 10.4).
>
> Depends on a lot of things. My 1.2GHz iBook, 768MB, currently running
> Tiger, NewsWatcher, Safari, Camino, TextEdit, Activity Monitor, Mail,
> Preview and Palm Desktop occasionally gets as high as 30% User, mostly
> hovering around 10%. System is sucking 1 to 8%.
>
> My sister runs Panther on a 192MB Bondi Blue iMac for simple email,
> light surfing, bit of AppleWorks and Excel with no particular problems.

I have two Macs:

- a dual 2.0 GHz G5 with 1.5 GB RAM, running Tiger

- a 300 MHz G3 "PDQ" PowerBook with 320 MB RAM, running Panther (and
Tiger when I get around to it, since XPostFacto just got updated)


Obviously the PowerBook is somewhat slower, but it is just *fine* for
doing email, newsgroups, iChat, IRC, web browsing, word processing,
spreadsheeting, database, light programming using C/C++/Perl/Python/Ruby
(suitability depends on what the program I am writing does, rather than
the compiler speed) using either command line tools & emacs or the
latest XCode. The G5 is far snappier, but the PowerBook is perfectly
usable. In fact it's nice enough that my *very* Linux-centric g/f (whho
is a KDE developer) now has a 450 MHz G3 iMac DV with 640 MB RAM running
Tiger as her media and communications machine, next to the 3 GHz x86 box
running KDE.

The PowerBook normally runs with about 90% idle CPU if it's just sitting
there, though things such as iTunes will immediately suck up 20% of the
CPU. But even if it's at 0% idle it still remains very responsive.

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