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Roger_Nickel
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      06-30-2005
For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-

http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html

"...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of influence.
We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple paths on which we can
travel. Regardless of the path we take, Microsoft has paved it with money...."
 
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Mark Remfrey
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      06-30-2005
Roger_Nickel wrote:
> For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-
>
> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html
>
> "...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of
> influence. We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple
> paths on which we can travel. Regardless of the path we take, Microsoft
> has paved it with money...."


Yeah, so what you are saying is that companies should really be making
stuff that nobody really has a need for?

Come on, you have a business, you identify where you can develop a
product that can fit a need, and you go for it.

Regards,
Mark Remfrey
 
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Chris Wilkinson
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      06-30-2005
Hi there,

Mark Remfrey wrote:
> Roger_Nickel wrote:
>
>> For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-
>>
>> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html
>>
>> "...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of
>> influence. We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple
>> paths on which we can travel. Regardless of the path we take,
>> Microsoft has paved it with money...."

>
>
> Yeah, so what you are saying is that companies should really be making
> stuff that nobody really has a need for?
>
> Come on, you have a business, you identify where you can develop a
> product that can fit a need, and you go for it.


Yes, but don't spend all your money trying to stifle your perceived
opposition out of the market, because that will come back and bite
you in the bum...

Opposition has a right to be there, but MS aren't happy with that.
They're trying to squash every little insect of a company that they
cannot make some deal with, to the detriment of freedom of choice...

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Roger_Nickel
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      07-01-2005
Mark Remfrey wrote:
> Roger_Nickel wrote:
>
>> For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-
>>
>> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html
>>
>> "...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of
>> influence. We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple
>> paths on which we can travel. Regardless of the path we take,
>> Microsoft has paved it with money...."

>
>
> Yeah, so what you are saying is that companies should really be making
> stuff that nobody really has a need for?
>
> Come on, you have a business, you identify where you can develop a
> product that can fit a need, and you go for it.
>
> Regards,
> Mark Remfrey

More that products should sell on their own merits rather than as a result of
market manipulations which would likely be found a breach of untitrust law if
anyone were to prosecute. Prosecution is unlikely as the parties who would be
involved in a prosecution are all in each others' pockets and have a vested
interest in things remaining as they are. Having said that, MS is a latecomer to
the political lobbying business and almost surely a good deal less corrupt than
firms like the Carlyle Group or Kellog Brown and Root.
 
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Rob J
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      07-01-2005
In article <42c4750d$> in nz.comp on Fri, 01 Jul
2005 10:40:07 +1200, Roger_Nickel <> says...
> For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-


Slashdot doesn't post stories. They post opinions.
 
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Shane
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      07-01-2005
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:40:23 +1200, Rob J wrote:

> In article <42c4750d$> in nz.comp on Fri, 01 Jul
> 2005 10:40:07 +1200, Roger_Nickel <> says...
>> For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-

>
> Slashdot doesn't post stories. They post opinions.


Thats an opinion

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thing
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      07-01-2005
Roger_Nickel wrote:
> For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-
>
> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html
>
> "...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of
> influence. We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple
> paths on which we can travel. Regardless of the path we take, Microsoft
> has paved it with money...."



MS has long been regarded as having one of the biggest and best lobbying
setups in DC. It is interesting when we start to see such public
documents unfolding before us, just how far the corruption may have gone...

For that is what it is, corruption....

Of course we should als ask about "Hollywood" and other big areas of
American business such as defence contracts.

The fact that the pentegon wants to shut a huge amount of un-needed US
military bases, but that would effect many comgressmen's voters...

So it is just bribary....

It is beginning to look like a very sick society...

more and more every day...

regards

Thing
 
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Rob J
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      07-01-2005
In article <> in nz.comp on Sat, 02 Jul 2005
09:32:57 +1200, thing <> says...
> Roger_Nickel wrote:
> > For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-
> >
> > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html
> >
> > "...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of
> > influence. We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple
> > paths on which we can travel. Regardless of the path we take, Microsoft
> > has paved it with money...."

>
>
> MS has long been regarded as having one of the biggest and best lobbying
> setups in DC. It is interesting when we start to see such public
> documents unfolding before us, just how far the corruption may have gone...
>
> For that is what it is, corruption....
>
> Of course we should als ask about "Hollywood" and other big areas of
> American business such as defence contracts.
>
> The fact that the pentegon wants to shut a huge amount of un-needed US
> military bases, but that would effect many comgressmen's voters...
>
> So it is just bribary....
>
> It is beginning to look like a very sick society...


But of course this kind of "sick society" happens to be political reality
around the world. This kind of politics is seen right here in New
Zealand.

So what really is your point?
 
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shannon
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      07-01-2005
Rob J wrote:
> In article <> in nz.comp on Sat, 02 Jul 2005
> 09:32:57 +1200, thing <> says...
>
>>Roger_Nickel wrote:
>>
>>>For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-
>>>
>>>http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html
>>>
>>>"...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of
>>>influence. We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple
>>>paths on which we can travel. Regardless of the path we take, Microsoft
>>>has paved it with money...."

>>
>>
>>MS has long been regarded as having one of the biggest and best lobbying
>> setups in DC. It is interesting when we start to see such public
>>documents unfolding before us, just how far the corruption may have gone...
>>
>>For that is what it is, corruption....
>>
>>Of course we should als ask about "Hollywood" and other big areas of
>>American business such as defence contracts.
>>
>>The fact that the pentegon wants to shut a huge amount of un-needed US
>>military bases, but that would effect many comgressmen's voters...
>>
>>So it is just bribary....
>>
>>It is beginning to look like a very sick society...

>
>
> But of course this kind of "sick society" happens to be political reality
> around the world. This kind of politics is seen right here in New
> Zealand.


No its not.
We don't have the same vote buying possibiities open to our politicians.
 
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FreedomChooser
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      07-02-2005
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:50:20 +1200, shannon <> wrote:

>Rob J wrote:
>> In article <> in nz.comp on Sat, 02 Jul 2005
>> 09:32:57 +1200, thing <> says...
>>
>>>Roger_Nickel wrote:
>>>
>>>>For those who may have missed the Slashdot story:-
>>>>
>>>>http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/38971/index.html
>>>>
>>>>"...Let's begin to make some sense of Microsoft's puzzling maze of
>>>>influence. We'll only travel a short distance before seeing multiple
>>>>paths on which we can travel. Regardless of the path we take, Microsoft
>>>>has paved it with money...."
>>>
>>>
>>>MS has long been regarded as having one of the biggest and best lobbying
>>> setups in DC. It is interesting when we start to see such public
>>>documents unfolding before us, just how far the corruption may have gone...
>>>
>>>For that is what it is, corruption....
>>>
>>>Of course we should als ask about "Hollywood" and other big areas of
>>>American business such as defence contracts.
>>>
>>>The fact that the pentegon wants to shut a huge amount of un-needed US
>>>military bases, but that would effect many comgressmen's voters...
>>>
>>>So it is just bribary....
>>>
>>>It is beginning to look like a very sick society...

>>
>>
>> But of course this kind of "sick society" happens to be political reality
>> around the world. This kind of politics is seen right here in New
>> Zealand.

>
>No its not.
>We don't have the same vote buying possibiities open to our politicians.


hahaha
What a joke
The only thing we have less of is the size our economy
Every opportunity for vote buying exists the same as other countries

 
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