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I am looking for some ideas and advice.

I currently use dial up at home and work on the same account.

I am now seriously looking at a solution using ADSL.

Being able to use it at work and home.

At home it just general use ..including using skype for international calls.
Plus we would benifit with our website uploading and downloading quicker.

Currently I use paradises 150 hour plan.
So I dont know what my actual data usage is.


Can someone suggest an ADSL plan and also what modems or routers to use ?

At home it should be simple...a modem with a router....I will be considering
later using wifi to another computer at home.

At work we have two computers and looking to do something similar...using
wifi.

Some of the basics I am trying to get my head around is :

Will I need to have two accounts ...one for home and one for work ?.....an
added expense.

Can I just connect the modem straight on to my existing line ...no extra
costs ?

What plans can you recomend ...Telstra clear ? Telecom ? Paradise ?...what
other options are there ?

I heard somewhere that there could be something happening with Telstra
clear....being able to use your own modem ..is this correct ?

Looking forward to your replies

NZed
Wellington

Well im currently on Xtra - bunch of monopolistic nazi's that they are.
But im moving to Slingshot ADSL - their Jetbuster plans sound good. For
$49.95 you get 3 gigs but the real killer is that for an extra $10 you
can get 10 gigs extra on top - so spend $40 and get 40 gigs extra for
your cap before being throttled!!!

tHe otHer BeaTle wrote:
> I am looking for some ideas and advice.
>
> I currently use dial up at home and work on the same account.
>
> I am now seriously looking at a solution using ADSL.
>
> Being able to use it at work and home.
>
> At home it just general use ..including using skype for international calls.
> Plus we would benifit with our website uploading and downloading quicker.
>
> Currently I use paradises 150 hour plan.
> So I dont know what my actual data usage is.
>
>
> Can someone suggest an ADSL plan and also what modems or routers to use ?
>
> At home it should be simple...a modem with a router....I will be considering
> later using wifi to another computer at home.
>
> At work we have two computers and looking to do something similar...using
> wifi.
>
> Some of the basics I am trying to get my head around is :
>
> Will I need to have two accounts ...one for home and one for work ?.....an
> added expense.
>
> Can I just connect the modem straight on to my existing line ...no extra
> costs ?
>
> What plans can you recomend ...Telstra clear ? Telecom ? Paradise ?...what
> other options are there ?
>
> I heard somewhere that there could be something happening with Telstra
> clear....being able to use your own modem ..is this correct ?
>
> Looking forward to your replies
>
> NZed
> Wellington
>
>

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:56:55 +1200, tHe otHer BeaTle wrote:

> I am now seriously looking at a solution using ADSL.
>
> Being able to use it at work and home.

If you wish to use aDSL at work AND at home you will need two separate DSL
accounts - because aDSL is a "permenantly on" service that is associated
with a particular telephone line.

It works very differently from dialup accounts.

Frankly, unless you expect to be using it for more than basic email and
web browsing - ie unless you expect to be downloading very large
quantities of data - you would be merely wasting your money for a service
that, while it be faster than dialup, is not a genuine high-speed service.

Genuine broadband does not yet exist in NZ.


Bling Bling

--
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collaboration of the best programmers in the industry coming together to
create an operating system that works on any hardware platform."

Bling-Bling wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:56:55 +1200, tHe otHer BeaTle wrote:
>
>
>>I am now seriously looking at a solution using ADSL.
>>
>>Being able to use it at work and home.
>
>
> If you wish to use aDSL at work AND at home you will need two separate DSL
> accounts - because aDSL is a "permenantly on" service that is associated
> with a particular telephone line.
>
> It works very differently from dialup accounts.
>
> Frankly, unless you expect to be using it for more than basic email and
> web browsing - ie unless you expect to be downloading very large
> quantities of data - you would be merely wasting your money for a service
> that, while it be faster than dialup, is not a genuine high-speed service.
>
> Genuine broadband does not yet exist in NZ.
>
>
> Bling Bling
>


Telstra cable is 2Mbps or 10Mbps
Citylink is 10Mbps or 100Mbps
Cafenet is 52Mbps
Telecom ADSL is 2Mbps

Bling-Bling wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:56:55 +1200, tHe otHer BeaTle wrote:
SNIP
>
> Frankly, unless you expect to be using it for more than basic email and
> web browsing - ie unless you expect to be downloading very large
> quantities of data - you would be merely wasting your money for a service
> that, while it be faster than dialup, is not a genuine high-speed service.
>
> Genuine broadband does not yet exist in NZ.
>
>
> Bling Bling
>

I guess you havent use dsl then, if you have then you wouldn't suggest
to someone to stay on dialup!, the diffference in both speed & freeing
up of the phone line is worth the money alone, even if it isn't true
"broadband", it is still light years ahead of a dialup connection.

PseUDO

"tHe otHer BeaTle" <> writes:

> Some of the basics I am trying to get my head around is :
>
> Will I need to have two accounts ...one for home and one for work ?.....an
> added expense.

Yes. ADSL is tied to a particular phone line.

> Can I just connect the modem straight on to my existing line ...no extra
> costs ?

You'll also need ADSL filters for all your phones so the ADSL doesn't
make them unusable for talking.

http://www.techie.net.nz/adsl/setup.html refers to a Telecom
technician coming out to install a filter, but I don't know if that is
out of date. When ADSL first came out, the standard was to give you a
special socket branched off the master socket dedicated to your ADSL,
and install a filter between that and your other sockets. Nowdays in
the UK at least, they just send out microfilters that you plug into the
sockets, no tinkering with the wiring at the master socket needed.

There'll probably be a charge for connecting the ADSL, especially if
someone has to come out and install filters. In the UK, this tends to
get waived if you sign up to a 12 month contract, I don't know if
theres enough competition in NZ for the same to be true there.

> I heard somewhere that there could be something happening with Telstra
> clear....being able to use your own modem ..is this correct ?

You should be able to use your own ADSL modem with any provider. But
if you don't have one yet, the providers prices for modems are usually
competitive, and they often come with a couple of ADSL filters bundled
(if self-install microfilters are the norm in NZ now).

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:03:12 +1200, shannon wrote:

> Telstra cable is 2Mbps or 10Mbps

And of course this is only available where Saturn is installed...


> Citylink is 10Mbps or 100Mbps

Isn't this only available within the central city?


> Cafenet is 52Mbps

.... and is a Wireless service provided by CityLink within specific
establishments in the city.


> Telecom ADSL is 2Mbps

Of course FULLSPEED ADSL is 8mbit/s not 2mbit/s - hence my assertion that
there be no genuine full speed DSL service available in NZ.


Bling Bling

--
IBM: "Linux is not just another operating system. It represents a
collaboration of the best programmers in the industry coming together to
create an operating system that works on any hardware platform."

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:45:03 +1200, Bling-Bling
<> spoke these fine words:
>
>Frankly, unless you expect to be using it for more than basic email and
>web browsing - ie unless you expect to be downloading very large
>quantities of data - you would be merely wasting your money for a service
>that, while it be faster than dialup, is not a genuine high-speed service.
>
>Genuine broadband does not yet exist in NZ.
>

OP: Please ignore Bling's comments above.

ADSL is indeed substantially better than dialup, and Bling is a
fanatic who has proved several times that it has very little idea of
the real world.

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:44:34 +0100, jasonr (Jason Rumney) @ f2s.com wrote:


>http://www.techie.net.nz/adsl/setup.html refers to a Telecom
>technician coming out to install a filter, but I don't know if that is
>out of date. When ADSL first came out, the standard was to give you a
>special socket branched off the master socket dedicated to your ADSL,
>and install a filter between that and your other sockets. Nowdays in
>the UK at least, they just send out microfilters that you plug into the
>sockets, no tinkering with the wiring at the master socket needed.

You can do it either way. I have the one in the wall with a dedicated socket
for the modem. It's a lot tidier that way.

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:56:55 UTC, "tHe otHer BeaTle"
<> wrote:

> At home it just general use ..including using skype for international calls.

Wanting to use VOIP of any sort basically means you need low latency,
which on ADSL limits you at the moment to non-UBS ADSL connections, as
Telecom seems to be (deliberately?) adding latency to bitstream ADSL
connections.