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Tony
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      06-13-2005
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:21:53 +1200, FreedomChooser <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:31:02 +1200, Tony
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:19:30 +1200, Graeme Woollett <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I'm writing this after having to ressurect a Windows machine that
>>>trashed itself twice before I traced the problem to a most probably
>>>dodgy PSU, and having to each time download SP2 and all manner of
>>>hotfixes. So much for Windows wonderful journalling FS.
>>>Thankyou MS for blowing my cable data cap for the month!!
>>>And Yes I was too tight to spend a few clams on Norton Ghost.(Funny how
>>>the Yanks get it for $US69.95 and we pay $NZ166....)
>>>
>>>WHY does Microsoft insist on all updates coming from a server based in
>>>the US?
>>>WHY does Microsoft make it so (insert your favourite swearword here)
>>>%$&^ difficult to cache the updates for XP so internet usage on small
>>>sites can be minimised? (No I don't have NT server to run SUS on)
>>>
>>>I get charged 10% for national traffic and 100% for intl on my cable
>>>connection.
>>>
>>>IMHO MS could learn a LOT from Linux Distros like Debian where all files
>>>are available from servers inside NZ.

>>
>>
>>
>>In the Bad or Good old Days, MS had a Corporate link that let you dnload all
>>the updates separately..
>>
>>This allowed firms with 100's of PC's to dnload the Updates Only once..
>>
>>How do Corporate uses with lots of PC's do it now..?

>
>Use the link that lets you downloade them
>
>There are such things
>Run MSBA to see what you need
>And go to the link for each item it shows up missing




So can XP Home users use this..?


As the WIN98 MS site let any one use it..


 
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      06-13-2005
Nathan Mercer wrote:
> Graeme Woollett wrote:
>
>> I'm writing this after having to ressurect a Windows machine that
>> trashed itself twice before I traced the problem to a most probably
>> dodgy PSU, and having to each time download SP2 and all manner of
>> hotfixes. So much for Windows wonderful journalling FS.
>> Thankyou MS for blowing my cable data cap for the month!!
>> And Yes I was too tight to spend a few clams on Norton Ghost.(Funny
>> how the Yanks get it for $US69.95 and we pay $NZ166....)
>>
>> WHY does Microsoft insist on all updates coming from a server based in
>> the US?
>> WHY does Microsoft make it so (insert your favourite swearword here)
>> %$&^ difficult to cache the updates for XP so internet usage on small
>> sites can be minimised? (No I don't have NT server to run SUS on)
>>
>> I get charged 10% for national traffic and 100% for intl on my cable
>> connection.
>>
>> IMHO MS could learn a LOT from Linux Distros like Debian where all files
>> are available from servers inside NZ.

>
>
> I'm on TelstraClear cable internet and my downloads from Microsoft are
> coming down as national traffic. I just downloaded an 80MB or so file
> from MSFT which was served from Akamai @ 203.167.223.236 which my ISP
> classes as NZ traffic...
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\nmercer>tracert 203.167.223.236
>
> Tracing route to a203-167-223-236.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com
> [203.167.223.236
> ]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 1 10 ms 12 ms 12 ms fe7-4-1025-19.bertha.paradise.net.nz
> [203.96.147
> .1]
> 2 10 ms 28 ms 9 ms 203-96-155-226.paradise.net.nz
> [203.96.155.226]
>
> 3 12 ms 10 ms 13 ms g1-0-1042.u21.tar.telstraclear.net
> [203.98.23.41
> ]
> 4 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms clear-ba1-atm1.wix.net.nz [202.7.0.192]

Hey this is WIX! Hasn't Telstra depeered from them?
> 5 14 ms 11 ms 13 ms g9-0-945.u22.tce.telstraclear.net
> [203.97.9.17]
>
> 6 21 ms 25 ms 19 ms 218.101.61.45
> 7 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms v927.cs1.akl.telstraclear.net
> [218.101.61.1]
> 8 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms
> a203-167-223-236.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [
> 203.167.223.236]

There's obviously something I'm not understanding about the way this
traffic gets routed.
 
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Dave - Dave.net.nz
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      06-13-2005
MaximumDamage wrote:
>>> IMHO MS could learn a LOT from Linux Distros like Debian where all files
>>> are available from servers inside NZ.


>> I'm on TelstraClear cable internet and my downloads from Microsoft are
>> coming down as national traffic. I just downloaded an 80MB or so file
>> from MSFT which was served from Akamai @ 203.167.223.236 which my ISP
>> classes as NZ traffic...
>>
>> C:\Documents and Settings\nmercer>tracert 203.167.223.236
>>
>> Tracing route to a203-167-223-236.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com
>> [203.167.223.236
>> ]
>> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>
>> 1 10 ms 12 ms 12 ms fe7-4-1025-19.bertha.paradise.net.nz
>> [203.96.147
>> .1]

*snip*
>> 8 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms
>> a203-167-223-236.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [
>> 203.167.223.236]

>
> There's obviously something I'm not understanding about the way this
> traffic gets routed.


Load balencing maybe?
I know that it doesnt always go to the NZ servers, and I read something
a while ago that they are load balanced to the next nearest server
geographically.
 
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