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We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.

I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space with
ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might want to
plug-in.

Any good sites?

In article <28hge.195$> in nz.comp on Wed, 11 May
2005 17:56:00 +1200, Jedmeister <> says...
> We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
> good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>
> I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
> switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space with
> ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might want to
> plug-in.
>
> Any good sites?

Essentially, any cable you lay can be used for phone as well as data. In
fact, you lay the same kind of cable for both. I'd suggest your layout
is, in part, dictated by the most convenient point to bring the phone
line into a wall jack or terminal block.

Jedmeister wrote:
> We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
> good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>
> I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
> switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space with
> ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might want to
> plug-in.
>
> Any good sites?

hehehe, sorry, I just found it quite funny.
If you make sure you get a sparky who knows data too(Aotea
Security/electric/data systems in Dunedin do it well) they should be
able to help you out.

I'm just considering doing cat6 through the house or doing wireless...
there is an ideal room in the basement for rack/switch/server, just got
to cost up the wiring.

Rob J wrote:
> In article <28hge.195$> in nz.comp on Wed, 11 May
> 2005 17:56:00 +1200, Jedmeister <> says...
>
>>We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
>>good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>>
>>I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
>>switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space with
>>ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might want to
>>plug-in.
>>
>>Any good sites?
>
>
> Essentially, any cable you lay can be used for phone as well as data. In
> fact, you lay the same kind of cable for both. I'd suggest your layout
> is, in part, dictated by the most convenient point to bring the phone
> line into a wall jack or terminal block.

There are a couple of home automation newsgroup that covers this subject
regularly comp.home.automation and uk.tech-automation.home). The first
is bit US based but the advice seems pretty solid. Have a chat with an
electrician as to what is available in NZ.

One suggestion would be to run conduit thus allowing you to replace/add
cables as technology changes. Maybe start with some Cat5e/6 and coax
depending on what you need. Either connect all to basement or roof
cavity to make it very easy to run cables.

cheers

W

you can buy a purpose made cabinet that is set up for phone/data/sat/tv,
try your local electrical supplier


Jedmeister wrote:
> We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
> good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>
> I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
> switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space with
> ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might want to
> plug-in.
>
> Any good sites?
>
>

On Wed, 11 May 2005 17:56:00 +1200, "Jedmeister"
<> wrote:

>We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
>good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>
>I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
>switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space with
>ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might want to
>plug-in.
>
>Any good sites?
>
That is pretty much what I did - ran cable to a patch panel in the
broom cupboard, with jacks in each room
Don't forget:
lots of power points
phone jack
light in th ecupbard so you can see what you are doing

Jedmeister wrote:
> We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
> good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>
> I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
> switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space with
> ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might want to
> plug-in.
>
> Any good sites?


2x cat5e to every location that you may want a computer or phone to a central
patch panel in a hall closet or attached garage or something. At leaste 1 cat5e
run to the location of the alarm panel for phoen connection if you choose to go
the landline monitored alarm route. Perhaps 2 if you think you will want to hook
a computer to the alarm at a later stage to track home/away status etc.

You can either use the cat5e for analog phone or else use it for IP phones if
you choose to move out of the 19th centuary at a later stage.

Dont think you can use a bedroom closet as anything you put in there will have
fans that makes noise.

2 coaxs from every TV location back to the same place, as well as 2 runs to
where you will have the sky dish mounted. You may want to run 3 coaxs to the
main tv if you will be locating the sky reciever there and running the RF back
to a splitter if you are not interested in picture quality on the other TVs

You may choose to run coax+power to any locations you want to put exterior CCTV
cameras. You can then use modulators to put it on the TV antenna to every TV in
the house. DSE do a totally rubbish analog tuned modulator for about $70 that
will do the job, or else look on tardme.

I am evaluating the idea of pulling some 2.5mm twin and earth from the server
closet here to select locations for when I put in a big grunter UPS under the
stairs, still awaiting my mate to find the way to do that legally. I am
investigating the idea of a generator cut over switch for when I get a genny,
but luckilly the last 6 months or so have being relativly powercut free.

You may also want to lookinto putting wire in for an irrigation controller at
some stage, and cables to any aircons you may put in, so you can turn them
on/off under computer control.

Perhaps also run speaker cables for rears in the lounge room, to some cieling
speakers in the kitchen and put some into the bathroom too. You will need cat5
in the walls if you want remote extenders from those rooms. I have run them back
to the server closet and just put a shitty $400 stereo receiver in there to
drive them either radio or off one of the machines in there for audiofile
playback. No remote on the PC yet however.

There is loads of info out there on diy home automation. The trouble is in a new
house you are reluctant to smash into the walls to run any new cables since the
house has a new factor to it, even tho a crappy timber framed drywall house is
so damn easy to patch up. Get the cables in now and save yourself the hastle.

You can put cat6 in if you want, but there is no benifit over cat5e on todays
hardware, and I dont think cat6 will handle 10gig ethernet so you would need to
repull cables anyway later.

"William Hamilton" <> wrote in
message news:d5s8e2$12b$...
> Rob J wrote:
>> In article <28hge.195$> in nz.comp on Wed, 11 May
>> 2005 17:56:00 +1200, Jedmeister <> says...
>>
>>>We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of
>>>any good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>>>
>>>I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
>>>switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space
>>>with ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might
>>>want to plug-in.
>>>
>>>Any good sites?
>>
>>
>> Essentially, any cable you lay can be used for phone as well as data. In
>> fact, you lay the same kind of cable for both. I'd suggest your layout
>> is, in part, dictated by the most convenient point to bring the phone
>> line into a wall jack or terminal block.
>
> There are a couple of home automation newsgroup that covers this subject
> regularly comp.home.automation and uk.tech-automation.home). The first is
> bit US based but the advice seems pretty solid. Have a chat with an
> electrician as to what is available in NZ.
>
> One suggestion would be to run conduit thus allowing you to replace/add
> cables as technology changes. Maybe start with some Cat5e/6 and coax
> depending on what you need. Either connect all to basement or roof cavity
> to make it very easy to run cables.
>
> cheers
>
> W


Great, thanks for this. Probably will end up getting some qualified help,
but am interested.

Jedmeister wrote:
> We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of any
> good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.

This may be a foregone conclusion, but think really carefully about just
getting an AP and a good (separate) antenna and doing it with 802.11G.
Could save you an arm and a leg, not to mention the time.

Dave

"Richard" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Jedmeister wrote:
>> We may be building a house soon - was just wondering if anyone knew of
>> any good spots on the net describing a good layout of the cabling.
>>
>> I was thinking, of perhaps a central 'space' to hold the adsl modem,
>> switchand possibly a server. Then, a patch panel in the central space
>> with ethernet running terminating in each room in the house where I might
>> want to plug-in.
>>
>> Any good sites?
>
>
> 2x cat5e to every location that you may want a computer or phone to a
> central patch panel in a hall closet or attached garage or something. At
> leaste 1 cat5e run to the location of the alarm panel for phoen connection
> if you choose to go the landline monitored alarm route. Perhaps 2 if you
> think you will want to hook a computer to the alarm at a later stage to
> track home/away status etc.
>
> You can either use the cat5e for analog phone or else use it for IP phones
> if you choose to move out of the 19th centuary at a later stage.
>
> Dont think you can use a bedroom closet as anything you put in there will
> have fans that makes noise.
>
> 2 coaxs from every TV location back to the same place, as well as 2 runs
> to where you will have the sky dish mounted. You may want to run 3 coaxs
> to the main tv if you will be locating the sky reciever there and running
> the RF back to a splitter if you are not interested in picture quality on
> the other TVs
>
> You may choose to run coax+power to any locations you want to put exterior
> CCTV cameras. You can then use modulators to put it on the TV antenna to
> every TV in the house. DSE do a totally rubbish analog tuned modulator for
> about $70 that will do the job, or else look on tardme.
>
> I am evaluating the idea of pulling some 2.5mm twin and earth from the
> server closet here to select locations for when I put in a big grunter UPS
> under the stairs, still awaiting my mate to find the way to do that
> legally. I am investigating the idea of a generator cut over switch for
> when I get a genny, but luckilly the last 6 months or so have being
> relativly powercut free.
>
> You may also want to lookinto putting wire in for an irrigation controller
> at some stage, and cables to any aircons you may put in, so you can turn
> them on/off under computer control.
>
> Perhaps also run speaker cables for rears in the lounge room, to some
> cieling speakers in the kitchen and put some into the bathroom too. You
> will need cat5 in the walls if you want remote extenders from those rooms.
> I have run them back to the server closet and just put a shitty $400
> stereo receiver in there to drive them either radio or off one of the
> machines in there for audiofile playback. No remote on the PC yet however.
>
> There is loads of info out there on diy home automation. The trouble is in
> a new house you are reluctant to smash into the walls to run any new
> cables since the house has a new factor to it, even tho a crappy timber
> framed drywall house is so damn easy to patch up. Get the cables in now
> and save yourself the hastle.
>
> You can put cat6 in if you want, but there is no benifit over cat5e on
> todays hardware, and I dont think cat6 will handle 10gig ethernet so you
> would need to repull cables anyway later.

Thanks for the info. We have not built yet , so figure it is best to get
the design right to avoid any future wall smashing.