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<rant>

I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).

I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
ease my aging eyes.

Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.

Maybe I should get back into the business, if the mugs people hire today
to build pages have no respect for usability.

</rant>

Rob (anyone want a fast loading, multi-browser (no v4, too hard to work
around and too low a user base now), user friendly page built?)

Hmm, nested brackets. Gotta get over that habit.

Phstpok wrote:
> <rant>
>
> I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
> width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).
>
> I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
> ease my aging eyes.
>
> Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.
>
> Maybe I should get back into the business, if the mugs people hire today
> to build pages have no respect for usability.
>
> </rant>


Accept that at least 1152x864 is the norm now, and that people dont like to have
the content bunched together in the middle of the screen with 6" of whitespace
on each side.

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:33:19 +1200, Richard <> wrote:

>Phstpok wrote:
>> <rant>
>>
>> I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
>> width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).
>>
>> I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
>> ease my aging eyes.
>>
>> Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.
>>
>> Maybe I should get back into the business, if the mugs people hire today
>> to build pages have no respect for usability.
>>
>> </rant>
>
>
>Accept that at least 1152x864 is the norm now,

bullshot

800x600 is still the most common resolution
the %age at 1024x768 is growing significantly and will eventually
overtake this
1152x854 is in NO way the norm

> Accept that at least 1152x864 is the norm now,

Our stats suggest about 50% 1024x768, 18% 1280x1024, 13% 800x600, and
1152x864 came in at about 5%.

As the OP suggested, it's really not much of a problem designing with any
screen res in mind, though.
--

Adam

"Phstpok" <> wrote in message
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> <rant>
>
> I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
> width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).
>
> I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
> ease my aging eyes.
>
> Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.
>
Like this one http://www.mircheetv.co.nz/What_doIsee/mircheeone.htm

Richard wrote:
> Phstpok wrote:
>
>> <rant>
>>
>> I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
>> width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).
>>
>> I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
>> ease my aging eyes.
>>
>> Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.
>>
>> Maybe I should get back into the business, if the mugs people hire
>> today to build pages have no respect for usability.
>>
>> </rant>
>
>
>
> Accept that at least 1152x864 is the norm now, and that people dont like
> to have the content bunched together in the middle of the screen with 6"
> of whitespace on each side.
That's why css to fit the page to 100% of window width. Dynamically
adjusts to each viewer's resolution.

Craig Sutton wrote:
> "Phstpok" <> wrote in message
> news:d4ajnv$q2p$...
>
>><rant>
>>
>>I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
>>width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).
>>
>>I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
>>ease my aging eyes.
>>
>>Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.
>>
>
> Like this one http://www.mircheetv.co.nz/What_doIsee/mircheeone.htm
>
>
>
Sheesh. Built it with dreamweaver, sets outer table at 100% then nests
an inner table at 1774.

DW just about tells you in caps not to do this.

Craig Sutton wrote:
> "Phstpok" <> wrote in message
> news:d4ajnv$q2p$...
>
>><rant>
>>
>>I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
>>width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).
>>
>>I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
>>ease my aging eyes.
>>
>>Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.
>>
>
> Like this one http://www.mircheetv.co.nz/What_doIsee/mircheeone.htm
>
>
>
Just read what it is about, an Indian tv station starting in AK. Must
have a lot of fat Indians in their choice of shows ;-}

Phstpok wrote:

>> Accept that at least 1152x864 is the norm now, and that people dont
>> like to have the content bunched together in the middle of the screen
>> with 6" of whitespace on each side.
>
> That's why css to fit the page to 100% of window width. Dynamically
> adjusts to each viewer's resolution.

Yep, along with not using points or pixels for font sizes, and trying to
avoid using pixels for layout units (although making an exception when
dealing with an image, is ok).

Although IE as usual makes things a bit harder for the
designer/developer - not impossible though.

--
Cheers
Anton

"Phstpok" <> wrote in message
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> Craig Sutton wrote:
> > "Phstpok" <> wrote in message
> > news:d4ajnv$q2p$...
> >
> >><rant>
> >>
> >>I've done a few web pages over the years, and I use css to adjust the
> >>width of the page to 100% to avoid horizontal scroll bars (a pet hate).
> >>
> >>I've recently changed my monitor back to 800 x 600 from 1024 x 768 to
> >>ease my aging eyes.
> >>
> >>Now it seems every second page I get has a horizontal scroll bar.
> >>
> >
> > Like this one http://www.mircheetv.co.nz/What_doIsee/mircheeone.htm
> >
> >
> >
> Just read what it is about, an Indian tv station starting in AK. Must
> have a lot of fat Indians in their choice of shows ;-}

Bit more to it than that. Mirchee Digital are using the ex Ihug DTV
capacity, to beam from the Skytower and Waitarua transmitter site. Capacity
for up to 50 channels, some ethinic pay channels, some FTA. Just point a
Sky dish at the tower and use a FTA receiver. Actually NASA TV was suppose
to be put on it last weekend.