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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:02:31 +1200, Fred Bloggs <>
wrote:

>In article <d2do74$til$>, says...
>> What is it, I did search the internet but couldn't find the explanation.
>> Some people who post on this ng use it.
>> I'm looking around for something friendly to use.
>> Joy
>
>It's the best free newsreader around



Its the biggest piece of Crap around..

Used by Crap People..

>I have tried quite a few free newsreaders
>Gravity is a free version of what was developed as a commercial product
>Every bit as good as Agent but not limited in the free version
>
>Download from
>http://gravity.sf.net/

Fred Bloggs wrote:
> In article <d2i01g$5hr$>, says...
>
>>Fred Bloggs wrote:

>>>Download from
>>>http://gravity.sf.net/
>>
>>Hmm...different Gravity, I think?
>
>
> Same one


You're not listening...

In article <>,
says...
>
> Its the biggest piece of Crap around..
>
> Used by Crap People..

Why, thank you Roger, now that you have enlightened me I will go and
stick my head in the toilet where it apparently belongs.

Egad, one would expect a minimum of manners from someone your age

*plonk* yet again.

-Peter

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:21:20 +1200, Peter Huebner <>
wrote in <news: a.co.nz>:

> In article <>,
> says...
>>
>> Its the biggest piece of Crap around..
>>
>> Used by Crap People..
>
> Why, thank you Roger, now that you have enlightened me I will go and
> stick my head in the toilet where it apparently belongs.
>
> Egad, one would expect a minimum of manners from someone your age
>
> *plonk* yet again.
>
> -Peter

Manners from Bill Bullshit? You'te joking, of course!
The only manners you'll get from him are surly or whiney.

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In article < >,
says...
> In article <d2i01g$5hr$>, says...
> > Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > In article <d2do74$til$>, says...
> > >
> > >>What is it, I did search the internet but couldn't find the explanation.
> > >> Some people who post on this ng use it.
> > >>I'm looking around for something friendly to use.
> > >>Joy
> > >
> > >
> > > It's the best free newsreader around
> > > I have tried quite a few free newsreaders
> > > Gravity is a free version of what was developed as a commercial product
> > > Every bit as good as Agent but not limited in the free version
> > >
> > > Download from
> > > http://gravity.sf.net/
> >
> > Hmm...different Gravity, I think?
>
> Same one
> There's been about four different major versions of it
> v1.x Microplanet Gravity
> v2.0 Anawave Gravity
> v2.1 Back to Microplanet
> v2.5 Free version (doesn't require registration)
> v2.6 Update of free but still closed source (Super Gravity). Microplanet
> went out of business
> v2.7 Open source version
> The current product still carries "Microplanet Gravity" banners

Sorry,
the link should be
http://mpgravity.sf.net

In article <>,
says...
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:02:31 +1200, Fred Bloggs <>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <d2do74$til$>, says...
> >> What is it, I did search the internet but couldn't find the explanation.
> >> Some people who post on this ng use it.
> >> I'm looking around for something friendly to use.
> >> Joy
> >
> >It's the best free newsreader around
>
>
>
> Its the biggest piece of Crap around..
>
> Used by Crap People..

Nah that can't be right
After all you don't use it

In article <d2do74$til$> in nz.comp on Wed, 30 Mar 2005
20:32:36 +1200, joy <> says...
> What is it, I did search the internet but couldn't find the explanation.
> Some people who post on this ng use it.
> I'm looking around for something friendly to use.
> Joy

It's a free newsreader package.

There are a number of free newsreaders. My rankings for them would be:

1=. Microplanet Gravity
Current open sourced version of a commercial package (developers went out
of business). Completely free.

2=. 40tude Dialog
A very interesting Forte Agent clone. Nicely packaged. Free for personal
use.

3. Free Agent
Free version of the Forte Agent newsreader. Still uses horrible Windows
3.1 style idiosyncratic user interface. Not as automated as Gravity.
Limited functionality in the free version. Like Gravity, Agent was sold
off by its original developers and later bought back.

4=. Mozilla / Thunderbird
Lacks the customisation / user options capabilities of preceding
products.

5=. Outlook Express / Outlook News Reader
Better options than Thunderbird, but less secure.

6. XNews
Interesting product but not as well developed in functionality as the
first three listings, e.g. lacks keyboard shortcuts.

There are a number of others like NewsXpress, which only got to 2.0
before development stopped, and that was about 1996. You can still get
them from some sites.

Rob J <> wrote in
news: z:

> 6. XNews
> Interesting product but not as well developed in functionality as
> the first three listings, e.g. lacks keyboard shortcuts.
>

Erm.. any particular keyboard shortcut you can think of?

--
dee

In article <Xns962DB187CFF8F16106@82.106.6.176> in nz.comp on 3 Apr 2005
07:28:52 +0200, Mike Dee <> says...
> Rob J <> wrote in
> news: z:
>
> > 6. XNews
> > Interesting product but not as well developed in functionality as
> > the first three listings, e.g. lacks keyboard shortcuts.
> >
>
> Erm.. any particular keyboard shortcut you can think of?

Gravity, Agent and Dialog (and possibly Thunderbird as well) all support
single key navigational shortcuts.

I remember the old Outlook Express and its predecessors required you to
press Ctrl key combinations which required two fingers or hands.

XNews, when I looked at it, offered a nice little toolbar, but shortcuts
for Next or Previous article were missing.

Looking at Gravity, here is some of the more commonly used ones:

Go to the Next Article (Down) D
View Next Unread in Thread E
Go to the Previous Article (Up) U
Next Local Article B
Next Unread Article N
Page Down or Next Article Space
Move to Next Pane Tab or F6
Refresh Current Group F5
Switch to the Newsgroup pane 1
Switch to the Thread pane 2
Switch to the Article pane 3
Delete Selected Articles Del
Mark the Selected Articles as Read K
Watch Thread W
Ignore Thread I
Tag Selected Articles for Retrieval T
Post a New Article P
Reply by e-mail R
Follow Up to the Current Article F
View Binary V
Add Score Entry S
Collapse Selected Thread -
Expand Selected Thread +
Refresh Displayed Group F5
Toggle Display of Full Headers H
Toggle Muting of Quoted Text Q

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 03:18:17 +1200, BILL
<> wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 00:35:53 +1200, Peter Huebner <> wrote:
>
>>In article <Xns962AD54504A0Demteedee@130.133.1.4>,
>> says...
>>> Keith <> wrote in
>>> news::
>>>
>>> > Still, there are changes from 2.6 to 2.7 (removed modules) that
>>> > might warrant a novice user to start with 2.7
>>> >
>>> > (and the "Boss" toggle has been removed!).
>>>
>>> I wouldn't know. I do like the open source MP Gravity as a news client,
>>> especially now that it has 'Perl Compatible Regular Expressions' PCRE.
>>>
>>> However I prefer the Xnews UI above other alternatives, so far.
>>
>>I've used Gravity for years and years and I am just happy with it.
>>Subscribing/unsubscribing is much more intuitive than Agent - which I
>>keep trying once every year or two, and stop using after a few days.
>>
>>Using 2.60 now, I think, and find nothing wrong with it. No reason for
>>me to go 2.7 ...
>>
>> -P.
>
>
>
>Funny That I tried Gravity a few times, ie reinstalled as a few seems to
>thing it was great, the biggest piece of crap I have found
>
>
>Agent is still the best their is..
>
>Been using it since day one..
>
>But the its not FREE.

Free agent is free