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Well following my earlier comment i have finished my new image build.

One nice DVD including my base apps, my old one was way out of date
being about a year old.

The final score
Downloaded
58 updates a total of 88 MB via dial up!
Now bear in mind that I started with a Win2kPro load, followed by the
latest MS Cumulative Update and Security CD.

Now the install files for Win2kPro are only 295MB (Of which a largish
amount are languages you dont use) and the security/cumulative update
provides another 260MB.

I would probably have completely replaced my base install with updates
etc by now.

BTW dont think XP is any different, every bit a bad.
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Collector»NZ wrote:
> I would probably have completely replaced my base install with updates
> etc by now.
> BTW dont think XP is any different, every bit a bad.

well, ~1GB for install, and ~300Mb of updates.

Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
>> I would probably have completely replaced my base install with updates
>> etc by now.
>> BTW dont think XP is any different, every bit a bad.

> well, ~1GB for install, and ~300Mb of updates.

actually, sorry, office was included in that too...

but ummm, it was ~ the same for my last Xandros install.

Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
> Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
>
>>> I would probably have completely replaced my base install with
>>> updates etc by now.
>>> BTW dont think XP is any different, every bit a bad.
>
>
>> well, ~1GB for install, and ~300Mb of updates.
>
>
> actually, sorry, office was included in that too...
>
> but ummm, it was ~ the same for my last Xandros install.

Thats updating all the applications though.

"Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Well following my earlier comment i have finished my new image
> build.
>
> One nice DVD including my base apps, my old one was way out of date
> being about a year old.
>
> The final score
> Downloaded
> 58 updates a total of 88 MB via dial up!
> Now bear in mind that I started with a Win2kPro load, followed by
> the latest MS Cumulative Update and Security CD.
>
> Now the install files for Win2kPro are only 295MB (Of which a
> largish amount are languages you dont use) and the
> security/cumulative update provides another 260MB.
>
> I would probably have completely replaced my base install with
> updates etc by now.
>
> BTW dont think XP is any different, every bit a bad.
> --

Dial-up is the real problem. With a broadband connection, no one
sweats these updates -- it's quick and convenient. Many of the big
software makers are moving to this kind of system, and I think it's
great.

Not that I don't appreciate the pain that dial-up users go through.
But face it, broadband is where it's at. Griping now about big
downloads on dial-up is like griping in 1995 about software bloat on
your 4 meg system. You've got a point either way, but really -- you
need to get over it.

Impossible said the following on 21/03/2005 5:57 p.m.:
> "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>Well following my earlier comment i have finished my new image
>>build.
>>
>>One nice DVD including my base apps, my old one was way out of date
>>being about a year old.
>>
>>The final score
>>Downloaded
>> 58 updates a total of 88 MB via dial up!
>>Now bear in mind that I started with a Win2kPro load, followed by
>>the latest MS Cumulative Update and Security CD.
>>
>>Now the install files for Win2kPro are only 295MB (Of which a
>>largish amount are languages you dont use) and the
>>security/cumulative update provides another 260MB.
>>
>>I would probably have completely replaced my base install with
>>updates etc by now.
>>
>>BTW dont think XP is any different, every bit a bad.
>>--
>
>
> Dial-up is the real problem. With a broadband connection, no one
> sweats these updates -- it's quick and convenient. Many of the big
> software makers are moving to this kind of system, and I think it's
> great.
>
> Not that I don't appreciate the pain that dial-up users go through.
> But face it, broadband is where it's at. Griping now about big
> downloads on dial-up is like griping in 1995 about software bloat on
> your 4 meg system. You've got a point either way, but really -- you
> need to get over it.
>
>
Okay you have got the point, now tell me how I get broadband here at my
Paraparaumu base! (and there are a number of other places with similar
issues)
No cable, too far and line quality too low for DSL, no Wireless or wifi,
so I have to be like 50% of US internet users and use dial up.

Telescums have no plans to improve lines or add a dslam near us since
the area all around us has cable so the return would be too low. Oh the
joys of a duopoly! Wireless have no plans to expand to here either for
the same reasons.

No wonder end lusers dont update and patch thier PCs.



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Axle wrote:
>>> well, ~1GB for install, and ~300Mb of updates.

>> actually, sorry, office was included in that too...
>> but ummm, it was ~ the same for my last Xandros install.

> Thats updating all the applications though.

eh... doesnt matter, all I use is the OS and the office stuff.

Collector»NZ wrote:
> no Wireless or wifi,
> so I have to be like 50% of US internet users and use dial up.

ummm, do it yourself.

Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
> Axle wrote:
>
>>>> well, ~1GB for install, and ~300Mb of updates.
>
>
>>> actually, sorry, office was included in that too...
>>> but ummm, it was ~ the same for my last Xandros install.
>
>
>> Thats updating all the applications though.
>
>
> eh... doesnt matter, all I use is the OS and the office stuff.

Then you can uninstall the rest and your updates will be smaller

Axle wrote:
>>>>> well, ~1GB for install, and ~300Mb of updates.

>>>> actually, sorry, office was included in that too...
>>>> but ummm, it was ~ the same for my last Xandros install.

>>> Thats updating all the applications though.

>> eh... doesnt matter, all I use is the OS and the office stuff.

> Then you can uninstall the rest and your updates will be smaller

I didn't know what to un-install, they all had weird names, and I sure
as hell wasn't going to google the ~1800 packages that were installed,
hell, even if I had, I may have removed things that others depended
on... and then I'd be ****ed.