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I just spoke with another ISP and found out that if I leave Orcon I would be
required to pay a churn fee. Exactly who does this churn fee go to? That
part that ****es me off is that I could not find the term "churn fee"
anywhere in Orcon's terms and conditions!

See my reply to your other post... it was meant to be a reply to this
message. Either way, both threads are pretty much the same.

The Other Guy

Bottle Boy wrote:
> I just spoke with another ISP and found out that if I leave Orcon I would be
> required to pay a churn fee. Exactly who does this churn fee go to? That
> part that ****es me off is that I could not find the term "churn fee"
> anywhere in Orcon's terms and conditions!
>
>

Bottle Boy wrote:
> I just spoke with another ISP and found out that if I leave Orcon I would be
> required to pay a churn fee. Exactly who does this churn fee go to? That
> part that ****es me off is that I could not find the term "churn fee"
> anywhere in Orcon's terms and conditions!
>
>
Goes to Telecom.

I'd be interested to know if you have to pay the churn fee if you go to
Xtra.

Bottle Boy wrote:
> I just spoke with another ISP and found out that if I leave Orcon I would be
> required to pay a churn fee.

Ummm, no.

> Exactly who does this churn fee go to?

There is a churn fee, my understanding it was payable from "other" ISP's
to Telecom if you left xtra and went to another UBS service. If you want
an idea as to why this is not an anti-competitive practice I'm afraid
you'll have to speak to Douglas Webb. ****wit that he is.

> That
> part that ****es me off is that I could not find the term "churn fee"
> anywhere in Orcon's terms and conditions!

Then you don't have to pay it. Make no mistake, you'll end up paying it
somewhere - but it won't be explicit, and you certainly won't pay it by
leaving.

Dave

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 20:46:36 +1300, David Preece wrote:

> There is a churn fee, my understanding it was payable from "other" ISP's
> to Telecom if you left xtra and went to another UBS service.

I understand it to be when one went to UBS. You see this was to encourage
one to pay Telecom the ADSL fee which you are already paying.