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Craig Sutton
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      09-16-2004
How's this looking?

Code /
Price Description
CP00021
$345.00 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Prescott (200x15) 1MB Cache 800Mhz
Socket 478 CPU + Fan Retail Boxed
MB00215
$249.00 Socket 478 Motherboard: Asus P4P800-E Deluxe Socket 478 Motherboard
MEM03800
$144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
MEM03800
$144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
VC00257
$615.00 AGP Video Card: MSI GeForce 6800 TD128 128MB AGP Video Card DVI
Video-Out 8x AGP
DW00047
$253.00 IDE Device: Asus DRW-1604P Dual Layer Dual Format (16x+R 4x+RW 16x-R
4x-RW) (Black) Internal IDEDVD-Writer
HD06380
$183.00 Serial ATA Device: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB 7200RPM
Serial ATA150 Hard Disk Drive 8MB Cache
DD01008
$22.00 Floppy Disk Drive: Panasonic 3?" Floppy Disk Drive (Black)
MD01120
$31.00 PCI Card: Intel PCI Internal 56k V92 Modem
CS00116
$94.00 Case: 3R System R202 (Black) Mid-Tower Case 400W PSU
MN00007
$416.00 Monitor: Philips 109B Flatscreen (Black) 19" Monitor
ID00024
$30.00 Keyboard: Microsoft Basic OEM (Black) Keyboard
ID00025
$30.00 Mouse: Microsoft Basic Optical OEM (Black) Mouse
SW01400
$272.00 Software Package: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Operating
System
PR00018
$291.00 Printer: Epson Stylus Photo R210 Colour InkJet Printer
SPK01700
$88.00 Speaker Package: Genius SW-5.1 Value Surround Speaker System
$50.00 Assembly
Order Total $3,257.00
Price includes GST and delivery

to upgrade to the AcBel 400W PSU add $63. This brings the Cash priced total
to $3320 inc GST & Delivery.
How does $3250 all up sound ?



 
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Andrew Bryson
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      09-16-2004
"Craig Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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Sorry have not read the last few posts in this thread so someone might
already have said the things below, but anyway:

> $183.00 Serial ATA Device: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB 7200RPM
> Serial ATA150 Hard Disk Drive 8MB Cache


If he likes gaming, you might want to go for the 160GB model instead since
some games are very big these days.

> $30.00 Mouse: Microsoft Basic Optical OEM (Black) Mouse


For very little extra you could buy an OEM Microsoft Intellimouse optical
with a couple of extra buttons - very handy for some games.

> $272.00 Software Package: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Operating
> System


If he will be going to LANs, make sure that you have this fully patched. The
shop should do this prior to delivery, but it pays to check. You will also
want to make sure that there is a decent virus scanner on the system and
that it is fully up to date. Besides which he will need to keep both up to
date once the machine has been delivered anyway .

> $88.00 Speaker Package: Genius SW-5.1 Value Surround Speaker System


I recommend also getting a headset if the machine has any chance of being
used at a LAN. You can get a passable Genius headset for under $20.

Andrew Bryson
http://www.bryson.co.nz


 
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      09-16-2004
Craig Sutton wrote:
> How's this looking?
>
> Code /
> Price Description
> CP00021
> $345.00 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Prescott (200x15) 1MB Cache 800Mhz
> Socket 478 CPU + Fan Retail Boxed
> MB00215
> $249.00 Socket 478 Motherboard: Asus P4P800-E Deluxe Socket 478
> Motherboard MEM03800
> $144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
> MEM03800
> $144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
> VC00257
> $615.00 AGP Video Card: MSI GeForce 6800 TD128 128MB AGP Video Card
> DVI Video-Out 8x AGP
> DW00047
> $253.00 IDE Device: Asus DRW-1604P Dual Layer Dual Format (16x+R
> 4x+RW 16x-R 4x-RW) (Black) Internal IDEDVD-Writer
> HD06380
> $183.00 Serial ATA Device: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB 7200RPM
> Serial ATA150 Hard Disk Drive 8MB Cache
> DD01008
> $22.00 Floppy Disk Drive: Panasonic 3?" Floppy Disk Drive (Black)
> MD01120
> $31.00 PCI Card: Intel PCI Internal 56k V92 Modem
> CS00116
> $94.00 Case: 3R System R202 (Black) Mid-Tower Case 400W PSU
> MN00007
> $416.00 Monitor: Philips 109B Flatscreen (Black) 19" Monitor
> ID00024
> $30.00 Keyboard: Microsoft Basic OEM (Black) Keyboard
> ID00025
> $30.00 Mouse: Microsoft Basic Optical OEM (Black) Mouse
> SW01400
> $272.00 Software Package: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM
> Operating System
> PR00018
> $291.00 Printer: Epson Stylus Photo R210 Colour InkJet Printer
> SPK01700
> $88.00 Speaker Package: Genius SW-5.1 Value Surround Speaker System
> $50.00 Assembly
> Order Total $3,257.00
> Price includes GST and delivery
>
> to upgrade to the AcBel 400W PSU add $63. This brings the Cash priced
> total to $3320 inc GST & Delivery.
> How does $3250 all up sound ?


Getting the AcBel is definitely a good move. It should all work fine.

I still reckon you're nuts not to be going AMD/nVidia but that's just my
opinion.
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Stephen Williams
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      09-16-2004
Those speakers are complete and utter ****!

But the machine will play games very well.

Steve


 
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Brendan
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      09-16-2004
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:33:59 +1200, Craig Sutton wrote:

> to upgrade to the AcBel 400W PSU add $63. This brings the Cash priced total
> to $3320 inc GST & Delivery.
> How does $3250 all up sound ?


Check the power supply has 20+ amps on the +12 volt line; a lot of stuff
sucks it down on that line in a modern comp - cpu, drives, fans. And get
one with a big fan - 120mm - so it's quiet. PFC is more marketing gimmick
than useful.

You should go for an AMD based system too.

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.... Brendan

"Television: chewing gum for the eyes." -- Frank Lloyd Wright

Note: All my comments are copyright 16/09/2004 7:07:16 p.m. and are opinion only where not otherwise stated and always "to the best of my recollection". www.computerman.orcon.net.nz.


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wogers nemesis
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      09-16-2004
In article <cib8k6$v13$(E-Mail Removed)>, http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed)
says...
> How's this looking?
>
> Code /
> Price Description
> CP00021
> $345.00 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Prescott (200x15) 1MB Cache 800Mhz
> Socket 478 CPU + Fan Retail Boxed
> MB00215
> $249.00 Socket 478 Motherboard: Asus P4P800-E Deluxe Socket 478 Motherboard
> MEM03800
> $144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
> MEM03800
> $144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
> VC00257
> $615.00 AGP Video Card: MSI GeForce 6800 TD128 128MB AGP Video Card DVI
> Video-Out 8x AGP
> DW00047
> $253.00 IDE Device: Asus DRW-1604P Dual Layer Dual Format (16x+R 4x+RW 16x-R
> 4x-RW) (Black) Internal IDEDVD-Writer
> HD06380
> $183.00 Serial ATA Device: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB 7200RPM
> Serial ATA150 Hard Disk Drive 8MB Cache
> DD01008
> $22.00 Floppy Disk Drive: Panasonic 3?" Floppy Disk Drive (Black)
> MD01120
> $31.00 PCI Card: Intel PCI Internal 56k V92 Modem
> CS00116
> $94.00 Case: 3R System R202 (Black) Mid-Tower Case 400W PSU
> MN00007
> $416.00 Monitor: Philips 109B Flatscreen (Black) 19" Monitor
> ID00024
> $30.00 Keyboard: Microsoft Basic OEM (Black) Keyboard
> ID00025
> $30.00 Mouse: Microsoft Basic Optical OEM (Black) Mouse
> SW01400
> $272.00 Software Package: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Operating
> System
> PR00018
> $291.00 Printer: Epson Stylus Photo R210 Colour InkJet Printer
> SPK01700
> $88.00 Speaker Package: Genius SW-5.1 Value Surround Speaker System
> $50.00 Assembly
> Order Total $3,257.00
> Price includes GST and delivery
>
> to upgrade to the AcBel 400W PSU add $63. This brings the Cash priced total
> to $3320 inc GST & Delivery.
> How does $3250 all up sound ?
>

The speakers sound like crap. Damn PC Gaming is still expensive -
although this is high end.

My tip: Check the warranties for all your parts very, very carefully.
Also you want to find a nice shop that can provide replacements without
****ing about.

The sweet spot for hard drive size might be closer to 200GB at the
moment too.


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Pon
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      09-16-2004
And another option, 5.1 phones from
http://www.gainward.com/html/product.../51Hwadset.htm
are a great buy at $66 from http://www.pp.co.nz/Headsets.php

Easily worn for extended periods, just excellent !
 
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Karen Parker
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      09-16-2004
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:33:59 +1200, "Craig Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>How's this looking?
>
>Code /
>Price Description
>CP00021
>$345.00 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Prescott (200x15) 1MB Cache 800Mhz
>Socket 478 CPU + Fan Retail Boxed
>MB00215
>$249.00 Socket 478 Motherboard: Asus P4P800-E Deluxe Socket 478 Motherboard
>MEM03800
>$144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
>MEM03800
>$144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
>VC00257
>$615.00 AGP Video Card: MSI GeForce 6800 TD128 128MB AGP Video Card DVI
>Video-Out 8x AGP
>DW00047
>$253.00 IDE Device: Asus DRW-1604P Dual Layer Dual Format (16x+R 4x+RW 16x-R
>4x-RW) (Black) Internal IDEDVD-Writer
>HD06380
>$183.00 Serial ATA Device: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB 7200RPM
>Serial ATA150 Hard Disk Drive 8MB Cache
>DD01008
>$22.00 Floppy Disk Drive: Panasonic 3?" Floppy Disk Drive (Black)
>MD01120
>$31.00 PCI Card: Intel PCI Internal 56k V92 Modem
>CS00116
>$94.00 Case: 3R System R202 (Black) Mid-Tower Case 400W PSU
>MN00007
>$416.00 Monitor: Philips 109B Flatscreen (Black) 19" Monitor
>ID00024
>$30.00 Keyboard: Microsoft Basic OEM (Black) Keyboard
>ID00025
>$30.00 Mouse: Microsoft Basic Optical OEM (Black) Mouse
>SW01400
>$272.00 Software Package: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Operating
>System
>PR00018
>$291.00 Printer: Epson Stylus Photo R210 Colour InkJet Printer
>SPK01700
>$88.00 Speaker Package: Genius SW-5.1 Value Surround Speaker System
>$50.00 Assembly
>Order Total $3,257.00
>Price includes GST and delivery
>
>to upgrade to the AcBel 400W PSU add $63. This brings the Cash priced total
>to $3320 inc GST & Delivery.
>How does $3250 all up sound ?
>
>



Get a better Case & PSU and use Kingmax Rams..


 
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Andrew Bryson
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      09-16-2004
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> Get a better Case & PSU and use Kingmax Rams..


The case is usually just a matter of personal choice. A better PSU is almost
always a good idea though . And Kingmax ram is probably overkill so long
as the motherboard you have chosen is stable with the ram you have chosen.
With the recent asus motherboards it is a good idea to get the shop to buy
the ram from morning star as well as the motherboard since not all generic
ram will run stably in some of the newer asus boards. That said, I believe
that the motherboard mentioned runs stably with pretty much any ddr ram .

Andrew Bryson
http://www.bryson.co.nz


 
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Tim
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      09-16-2004
Make sure the shop will guarantee the ram works with the CPU & motherboard.
If so then don't stress about what RAM you get so long as it also has a good
warrantee (IE not 1 month, more like 2 years to life).
Check that you get good S/W with the Asus DVD.
PSU: same comments as the others IE check it has the grunt.

If you want a quiet machine, then get a quiet CPU cooler now and don't fit
the stock one. Regardless check the CPU temps are satisfactory and stable
under load before handing it over - Prescotts run hot and are easy to get
wrong in a "small" case. IE make sure there is adequate ventilation. The
ideal cases for prescotts have a fan inlet in the side of the case that
provides cool air directly to the CPU.

What sort of discount are they giving you for all this? Ask for one. Who is
doing the assembly? If you buy the lot from one shop then let them assemble
and look for a 3 year warrantee + discount on everything and just sit back
and take the credit... OEM CPU's for example have only 1 month warrantee -
they "don't" fail, but you don't also want the risk just for the enjoyment
of doing the build yourself.

Regardless, run memtest86 over night when you get it before anything else,
then only if happy run prime95 to test the CPU is mounted OK and will not
overheat... and if all is not right, take it back...

Several things in that list are a tad over "best price" IMHO, so there is
room for a discount... You don't want to run them out of business -
warrantee's no use then, but no point in paying for their new porsche
either.

2 cents.

- Tim


"Craig Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cib8k6$v13$(E-Mail Removed)...
> How's this looking?
>
> Code /
> Price Description
> CP00021
> $345.00 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Prescott (200x15) 1MB Cache 800Mhz
> Socket 478 CPU + Fan Retail Boxed
> MB00215
> $249.00 Socket 478 Motherboard: Asus P4P800-E Deluxe Socket 478
> Motherboard
> MEM03800
> $144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
> MEM03800
> $144.00 DDR RAM Memory Chip: Generic 512MB PC3200 DDR (400Mhz) Memory
> VC00257
> $615.00 AGP Video Card: MSI GeForce 6800 TD128 128MB AGP Video Card DVI
> Video-Out 8x AGP
> DW00047
> $253.00 IDE Device: Asus DRW-1604P Dual Layer Dual Format (16x+R 4x+RW
> 16x-R
> 4x-RW) (Black) Internal IDEDVD-Writer
> HD06380
> $183.00 Serial ATA Device: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB 7200RPM
> Serial ATA150 Hard Disk Drive 8MB Cache
> DD01008
> $22.00 Floppy Disk Drive: Panasonic 3?" Floppy Disk Drive (Black)
> MD01120
> $31.00 PCI Card: Intel PCI Internal 56k V92 Modem
> CS00116
> $94.00 Case: 3R System R202 (Black) Mid-Tower Case 400W PSU
> MN00007
> $416.00 Monitor: Philips 109B Flatscreen (Black) 19" Monitor
> ID00024
> $30.00 Keyboard: Microsoft Basic OEM (Black) Keyboard
> ID00025
> $30.00 Mouse: Microsoft Basic Optical OEM (Black) Mouse
> SW01400
> $272.00 Software Package: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Operating
> System
> PR00018
> $291.00 Printer: Epson Stylus Photo R210 Colour InkJet Printer
> SPK01700
> $88.00 Speaker Package: Genius SW-5.1 Value Surround Speaker System
> $50.00 Assembly
> Order Total $3,257.00
> Price includes GST and delivery
>
> to upgrade to the AcBel 400W PSU add $63. This brings the Cash priced
> total
> to $3320 inc GST & Delivery.
> How does $3250 all up sound ?
>
>
>



 
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