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Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:20.555
Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:20.653
Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:20.734
Fernando Alonso Renault 1:20.773
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:20.805
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.856
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:20.898 Antonio Pizzonia
Williams-BMW 1:20.921
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.058
Jarno Trulli Renault 1:21.506
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:21.859
Olivier Panis Toyota 1:21.889
Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:21.929
Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:22.114
Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:22.230
Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:22.490
Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:23.146
Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:23.794
Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford
Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth

They where all probably heavy on fuel as Monza is a loser for pitstops,

Catch you all tonite at midnight guys.
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Collector-NZ wrote:
> Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:20.555
> Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:20.653
> Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:20.734
> Fernando Alonso Renault 1:20.773
> Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:20.805
> Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.856
> Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:20.898 Antonio Pizzonia
> Williams-BMW 1:20.921
> David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.058
> Jarno Trulli Renault 1:21.506
> Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:21.859
> Olivier Panis Toyota 1:21.889
> Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:21.929
> Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:22.114
> Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:22.230
> Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:22.490
> Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:23.146
> Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:23.794
> Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford
> Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth
>
> They where all probably heavy on fuel as Monza is a loser for
> pitstops,

True. Damn, that's an interesting grid. Was it rain affected or anything?

> Catch you all tonite at midnight guys.

Looks like an interesting race. I'll be watching it.
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> Looks like an interesting race. I'll be watching it.

What time tonite is the race please ? TV1 again ?

ta.

...Waylon Smithers.. wrote:
>> Looks like an interesting race. I'll be watching it.
>
> What time tonite is the race please ? TV1 again ?

Coverage starts at 11:30pm and the race at around midnite. Yep TV1. It was
only during the Olympics that it went to 2.
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~misfit~ said the following on 12/09/2004 01:27:
> Collector-NZ wrote:
>

>>
>>They where all probably heavy on fuel as Monza is a loser for
>>pitstops,
>
>
> True. Damn, that's an interesting grid. Was it rain affected or anything?
>
>
>>Catch you all tonite at midnight guys.
>
>
> Looks like an interesting race. I'll be watching it.
> --
> ~misfit~
>
>

Perfect running conditions, just the way it came out. But even Montoya
who was doing 1.19.5 in Practice ran a lot slower. Low down force and
big fuel loads make a huge difference.
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In article <>,
Collector-NZ <> wrote:

> Perfect running conditions, just the way it came out. But even Montoya
> who was doing 1.19.5 in Practice ran a lot slower. Low down force and
> big fuel loads make a huge difference.

I guess I don't understand, being only a very occasional motorsport
watcher.

Can they not refuel (or change tyres) between qualifying and the start
of the race? If so, when did that start?

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Bruce Hoult said the following on 12/09/2004 13:20:

> In article <>,
> Collector-NZ <> wrote:
>
>
>>Perfect running conditions, just the way it came out. But even Montoya
>>who was doing 1.19.5 in Practice ran a lot slower. Low down force and
>>big fuel loads make a huge difference.
>
>
> I guess I don't understand, being only a very occasional motorsport
> watcher.
>
> Can they not refuel (or change tyres) between qualifying and the start
> of the race? If so, when did that start?
>
Under the Parkfirma rules they have to start with the tyres and fuel
they had at Qualifying and no changes to the cars. Came in this season.
If they need to change and engine/trans after qualifying then they start
from the pit lane.

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Collector-NZ wrote:
> Bruce Hoult said the following on 12/09/2004 13:20:
>
>> In article <>,
>> Collector-NZ <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Perfect running conditions, just the way it came out. But even
>>> Montoya who was doing 1.19.5 in Practice ran a lot slower. Low down
>>> force and big fuel loads make a huge difference.
>>
>>
>> I guess I don't understand, being only a very occasional motorsport
>> watcher.
>>
>> Can they not refuel (or change tyres) between qualifying and the
>> start of the race? If so, when did that start?
>>
> Under the Parkfirma rules they have to start with the tyres and fuel
> they had at Qualifying and no changes to the cars. Came in this
> season. If they need to change and engine/trans after qualifying then
> they start from the pit lane.

Yeah, quite a few new rules this year, some controversial. And they're
talking about more changes next year. At the moment it's one engine/trans
has to last all weekend, they're talking about it having to last two meets
next year.
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In article <>,
Collector-NZ <> wrote:

> > Can they not refuel (or change tyres) between qualifying and the start
> > of the race? If so, when did that start?
> >
> Under the Parkfirma rules they have to start with the tyres and fuel
> they had at Qualifying and no changes to the cars. Came in this season.
> If they need to change and engine/trans after qualifying then they start
> from the pit lane.

Interesting. And I didn't think that was the case last time I watched.
(Well, ok, I watched the Spa race recently, thanks to a head-up here).

I suppose it's intended to stop them having silly setups for qualifying,
and add a bit more strategy to the race. But surely the only reasonable
thing to do is to work backwards fromt the end, figuring your fuel
stops, then put in just enough to do qualifying and get to the first
fuel stop, and put on the stickiest tyres you can that will last to the
first fuel stop.

I'd be very suprised if it was worth getting pole position if it meant
that you had to pit 10 laps before anyone else.

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> Coverage starts at 11:30pm and the race at around midnite. Yep TV1.
> It was only during the Olympics that it went to 2.

Thanks, looks like another late night tonite watching some good racing