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I see some ISPs (Ihug, Orcon) etc.. advertising special deals if you sign up
for a JS account before 3rd October. This makes me think that some new
accounts are going to be introduced after the 3rd?

Does anyone know anything about this?

Telecom's just offering a better wholesale price of the jetstream service to
other ISP's so the prices may be a bit lower, in saying that Telecom already
offer $10 off if your make your tolls with Telecom so I'd guess the good
deals with the other ISP's like ihug and orcon mean you need to switch your
tolls to them for the offer.

I thought about Orcon myself but laughed 3 weeks later when they could no
longer offer the plan that they originally said they could (this was only a
month ago) and on their website & in newsgroups. I think it's just as safe
to sit tight and wait, as with more wholesale jetstream to other ISP's will
mean they will drive the price down anyway in a bid to keep customers
elsewhere. Jetstream (Telecom NZ's ADSL) is basically the most expensive
ADSL service in the world, so times will change with this excuse my language
(**** ant) attempt at wholesaling service levels set by Telecom to start
with (they're not flexable like setting their own rates ie: 256up etc...)

Don't be sucked in to 'order now before in a contract or you'll miss out'...
that's just psyhcolocial marketting jargon. If they want customers they'll
make it better come Novermber, and who ever you are already with will only
get cheaper in a bid to keep your pigna's, that's how the maket flows. I
don't like Telecom, but they are the monopoly, when someone else offers
something better Telecom undermine them with cheaper rates because they own
basically everything else they connect through and the services they resell
on their behalf.

Cheers,
Gavin.

"Dorado" <> wrote in message
news:chdb25$4ca$...
> I see some ISPs (Ihug, Orcon) etc.. advertising special deals if you sign
up
> for a JS account before 3rd October. This makes me think that some new
> accounts are going to be introduced after the 3rd?
>
> Does anyone know anything about this?
>
>

"Gavin Stephens" <_no.co.nz> wrote in message
news:hVt_c.21889$...
> Telecom's just offering a better wholesale price of the jetstream service
to
> other ISP's so the prices may be a bit lower, in saying that Telecom
already
> offer $10 off if your make your tolls with Telecom so I'd guess the good
> deals with the other ISP's like ihug and orcon mean you need to switch
your
> tolls to them for the offer.
>
> I thought about Orcon myself but laughed 3 weeks later when they could no
> longer offer the plan that they originally said they could (this was only
a
> month ago) and on their website & in newsgroups. I think it's just as safe
> to sit tight and wait, as with more wholesale jetstream to other ISP's
will
> mean they will drive the price down anyway in a bid to keep customers
> elsewhere. Jetstream (Telecom NZ's ADSL) is basically the most expensive
> ADSL service in the world, so times will change with this excuse my
language
> (**** ant) attempt at wholesaling service levels set by Telecom to start
> with (they're not flexable like setting their own rates ie: 256up etc...)
>
> Don't be sucked in to 'order now before in a contract or you'll miss
out'...
> that's just psyhcolocial marketting jargon. If they want customers they'll
> make it better come Novermber, and who ever you are already with will only
> get cheaper in a bid to keep your pigna's, that's how the maket flows. I
> don't like Telecom, but they are the monopoly, when someone else offers
> something better Telecom undermine them with cheaper rates because they
own
> basically everything else they connect through and the services they
resell
> on their behalf.
>
> Cheers,
> Gavin.


BTW... My local downer engineer told me the move to 256Kbps was mainly out
of the need to service Microsoft X-Box Internet connectivity as they require
a 256Kbps connection to offer all of it's services at a quality level. That
makes huge sense since it's xtraMSN. I'm sure they did think about the other
marketting stuff like it's time to offer New Zealand some more broadband
connection plans at speeds still slower than International broadband
(384Kbps) specifications.


>
> "Dorado" <> wrote in message
> news:chdb25$4ca$...
> > I see some ISPs (Ihug, Orcon) etc.. advertising special deals if you
sign
> up
> > for a JS account before 3rd October. This makes me think that some new
> > accounts are going to be introduced after the 3rd?
> >
> > Does anyone know anything about this?
> >
> >
>
>

Gavin Stephens wrote:

[snip]

> BTW... My local downer engineer told me the move to 256Kbps was mainly out
> of the need to service Microsoft X-Box Internet connectivity as they
> require a 256Kbps connection to offer all of it's services at a quality
> level. That makes huge sense since it's xtraMSN. I'm sure they did think
> about the other marketting stuff like it's time to offer New Zealand some
> more broadband connection plans at speeds still slower than International
> broadband (384Kbps) specifications.

They'll be pleased to know that I use the new 256kb/s connection to download
Linux isos and "emerge -U world" to update my box at a reasonable rate.

Allistar.

I noticed on jetstream games there's a linux version of some sort that you
can download completely free without clocking up megabytes. The reason I
went with dsl was to download a copy of the latest service packs for 2K and
XP to install on a few freinds PC's. Telecom reied to upsell me majorly as I
would blow my 1GB plan out of the water with those 200+MB updates... Funny
that, I got them both free of jetstreamgames which I hear is close to being
knocked on the head according to a few ppl.


"Allistar" <> wrote in message
newsQu_c.2130$...
> Gavin Stephens wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > BTW... My local downer engineer told me the move to 256Kbps was mainly
out
> > of the need to service Microsoft X-Box Internet connectivity as they
> > require a 256Kbps connection to offer all of it's services at a quality
> > level. That makes huge sense since it's xtraMSN. I'm sure they did think
> > about the other marketting stuff like it's time to offer New Zealand
some
> > more broadband connection plans at speeds still slower than
International
> > broadband (384Kbps) specifications.
>
> They'll be pleased to know that I use the new 256kb/s connection to
download
> Linux isos and "emerge -U world" to update my box at a reasonable rate.
>
> Allistar.
>

"Gavin Stephens" <_no.co.nz> wrote in message
news:j7w_c.21917$...
> I noticed on jetstream games there's a linux version of some sort that you
> can download completely free without clocking up megabytes. The reason I
> went with dsl was to download a copy of the latest service packs for 2K
and
> XP to install on a few freinds PC's. Telecom reied

tried

>to upsell me majorly as I
> would blow my 1GB plan out of the water with those 200+MB updates...
Funny
> that, I got them both free of

mmm back to sleep, spelling's not working today.

>jetstreamgames which I hear is close to being
> knocked on the head according to a few ppl.
>
>
> "Allistar" <> wrote in message
> newsQu_c.2130$...
> > Gavin Stephens wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > BTW... My local downer engineer told me the move to 256Kbps was mainly
> out
> > > of the need to service Microsoft X-Box Internet connectivity as they
> > > require a 256Kbps connection to offer all of it's services at a
quality
> > > level. That makes huge sense since it's xtraMSN. I'm sure they did
think
> > > about the other marketting stuff like it's time to offer New Zealand
> some
> > > more broadband connection plans at speeds still slower than
> International
> > > broadband (384Kbps) specifications.
> >
> > They'll be pleased to know that I use the new 256kb/s connection to
> download
> > Linux isos and "emerge -U world" to update my box at a reasonable rate.
> >
> > Allistar.
> >
>
>

"Gavin Stephens" <_no.co.nz> wrote in message
news:hVt_c.21889$...
> Telecom's just offering a better wholesale price of the jetstream service
to
> other ISP's so the prices may be a bit lower, in saying that Telecom
already
> offer $10 off if your make your tolls with Telecom so I'd guess the good
> deals with the other ISP's like ihug and orcon mean you need to switch
your
> tolls to them for the offer.
>
> I thought about Orcon myself but laughed 3 weeks later when they could no
> longer offer the plan that they originally said they could (this was only
a
> month ago) and on their website & in newsgroups. I think it's just as safe
> to sit tight and wait, as with more wholesale jetstream to other ISP's
will
> mean they will drive the price down anyway in a bid to keep customers
> elsewhere. Jetstream (Telecom NZ's ADSL) is basically the most expensive
> ADSL service in the world, so times will change with this excuse my
language
> (**** ant) attempt at wholesaling service levels set by Telecom to start
> with (they're not flexable like setting their own rates ie: 256up etc...)
>
> Don't be sucked in to 'order now before in a contract or you'll miss
out'...
> that's just psyhcolocial marketting jargon. If they want customers they'll
> make it better come Novermber, and who ever you are already with will only
> get cheaper in a bid to keep your pigna's, that's how the maket flows. I
> don't like Telecom, but they are the monopoly, when someone else offers
> something better Telecom undermine them with cheaper rates because they
own
> basically everything else they connect through and the services they
resell
> on their behalf.
>
> Cheers,
> Gavin.
>
> "Dorado" <> wrote in message
> news:chdb25$4ca$...
> > I see some ISPs (Ihug, Orcon) etc.. advertising special deals if you
sign
> up
> > for a JS account before 3rd October. This makes me think that some new
> > accounts are going to be introduced after the 3rd?
> >
> > Does anyone know anything about this?
> >
> >
>
>

I'm in no hurry to change ISP's or plans at the moment. I did however hear
that they were planning on offering a 512Kbps plan sometime soon. Is this
just a rumor?

"Dorado" <> wrote in message
news:che2u5$r2j$...
>
> I'm in no hurry to change ISP's or plans at the moment. I did however hear
> that they were planning on offering a 512Kbps plan sometime soon. Is this
> just a rumor?
>

Same here. 512 is something Telecom were beleived to be thinking of come
March or later next year as an entry level business plan rather than the
high-speed only adsl plan.

On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 09:11:38 +1200, "Dorado" <>
wrote:

>I see some ISPs (Ihug, Orcon) etc.. advertising special deals if you sign up
>for a JS account before 3rd October. This makes me think that some new
>accounts are going to be introduced after the 3rd?
>
>Does anyone know anything about this?
>
Paradise and Clearnet are meant to have new offerings but no sign of
them on their sites yet.
http://www.computerworld.co.nz/news....256EF50039585B

Bruce.

worldnet are offering 256k/5G for $39
Loooks a better offering than telecoms 1G