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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:25:05 +1200, Chris Hope wrote:

> Wow. I knew Xtra was a ripoff for domain names but I just found out it's
> even worse. Not only do they charge $14+GST per MONTH for a .nz domain
> name, but they charge $70 to set it up in the first place or $50 to
> transfer from another registrar. The last two are free from any decent
> registrar and you should be paying $40 tops per YEAR for a New Zealad
> domain name.
>
> And don't get me started on their pricing for .com domains... ($NZ171.50
> per year compared with eg GoDaddy US$8.95).

Basically, Telecom thinks it has an obligation to provide those services.
It doesn't really want to do so. So it charges through the nose, hoping
that people will either go somewhere else, or else meekly lie down
spreadding their legs wide ready for a good pounding.

A bit like a pub having a sign on the wall saying "food available at all
times" but showing no menu or price list, and only the manager being
able to say what food actually is for sale, and needing to turn on the
lights and ignite the stove and unpadlock the fridge in the kitchen and
only THEN cooking the food - all after each order for food.


Divine

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"What some people have against Open Source Software is what Fundamentalist
Christians or Moslems have against Knowledge."

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:45:16 +1200, Chris Hope wrote:

> I don't disagree with you (about being able to charge what they want), but
> unfortunately a *lot* of people who register their first domain don't know
> or think to shop around. Xtra is their ISP and so they go to their ISP to
> register their domain and they get ripped off because of it.

Really, it amazes me how many people in this country of ours are not
switiched on enough to do some home work before parting with there hard
earned cash.

If they get "ripped off" it is there choice.

This country used to the attitude of doing it ourselves, we were savvy.
Now it appears that the dumbing down has/is taking its toll.

If one thinks that rips off are happening, then it is ones duty to
explain/educate the "masses" of the options/facts.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:57:46 +1200, Ryan Jacobs wrote:

> Now, I only offer advice when it's requested.

The saying goes, Do not offer advice unless it is asked for.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:29:43 +1200, Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:

> Ryan Jacobs wrote:
>>>They're scared to change, thinking it's too complicated to do so or
>>>they don't know there's better or they don't know how to do it.
>>>Some people don't really like using computers and only do it out of
>>>necessity
>
>> Absolutely agree. Fear of the unknown seems to affect people strangely.
>
> Im the same with car stuff, I trust my mechanic doing what is needed as
> I know nothing about it.
>
Note the word trust, very important. Your mechanic has done a good job in
the past I take it, she has given good service and knows darn well that
you will disappear to the oppostion should you get ripped off.

Ryan Jacobs wrote:
> "Chris Hope" <> wrote in message
> news:1092119172_119313@216.128.74.129...
>
>>Wow. I knew Xtra was a ripoff for domain names but I just found out it's
>>even worse. Not only do they charge $14+GST per MONTH for a .nz domain
>>name, but they charge $70 to set it up in the first place or $50 to
>>transfer from another registrar. The last two are free from any decent
>>registrar and you should be paying $40 tops per YEAR for a New Zealad
>>domain name.
>>
>>And don't get me started on their pricing for .com domains... ($NZ171.50
>
> per
>
>>year compared with eg GoDaddy US$8.95).
>>
>
>
> Well, I'm mixed on this one
>
> Yes its true xtra (and most of the other major ISPs) charge outrageous
> prices for this. But on the other hand, we live in a free capitalist
> society - so xtra (and others) are entitled to charge whatever they want.
>
> The other side of the coin is, of course, there are many cheaper
> alternatives - people need to learn to "shop around".
>
> Although, I can see Teresa G. thinking.......... I wonder if we buy out all
> the competition, we can REALLY stiff the people.
>
> RJ out.
>
>

Clear used to, if it still does not rip you off. You could get a domain
directly of domainz and then use www.dyndns.org for your dns service.
They charge a one off fee at $30US I think but thats for life.....

Lots of deals about if one is prepared to look....

regards

Thing