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I see a lot of CDRW disks are only 4x, Imation and Datalife Plus at the
Warehouse and some Mitsubishi disks sold by DSE are only rated up to 4x

DSE also sell some Mitsubishi disks rated up to 12x. Is this hype or can
these disks be used reliably at 10x - 12x?

On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:08:32 +1200, Patrick Dunford
<> wrote:

>I see a lot of CDRW disks are only 4x, Imation and Datalife Plus at the
>Warehouse and some Mitsubishi disks sold by DSE are only rated up to 4x
>
>DSE also sell some Mitsubishi disks rated up to 12x. Is this hype or can
>these disks be used reliably at 10x - 12x?

Harvey Norman in NZ sell their own branded CD-RW 12x for around $12.95
for 10.

I've had no problems with them (although my writer only writes at 10x
max for CDRW)

Patrick Dunford wrote:
> I see a lot of CDRW disks are only 4x, Imation and Datalife Plus at the
> Warehouse and some Mitsubishi disks sold by DSE are only rated up to 4x
>
> DSE also sell some Mitsubishi disks rated up to 12x. Is this hype or can
> these disks be used reliably at 10x - 12x?

When I first got my RW drive, I purchased a couple of 4x discs to use
with it as at that time RW discs were still quite expensive and HSRW
discs were rare.

Since that time I have picked up a number of Datalife 12x HSRW's that
have been in use for well over a year now, and do not use the 4x discs
unless I have to.

Given the choice at a comparable price would you prefer to use a 52k
modem or 128k Jetstream?

Are 52x CDR's "hype", or can they be written to with similar reliability
rates as CDR's rated for 24x?

In article <>, server@localhost says...
> Patrick Dunford wrote:
> > I see a lot of CDRW disks are only 4x, Imation and Datalife Plus at the
> > Warehouse and some Mitsubishi disks sold by DSE are only rated up to 4x
> >
> > DSE also sell some Mitsubishi disks rated up to 12x. Is this hype or can
> > these disks be used reliably at 10x - 12x?
>
> When I first got my RW drive, I purchased a couple of 4x discs to use
> with it as at that time RW discs were still quite expensive and HSRW
> discs were rare.
>
> Since that time I have picked up a number of Datalife 12x HSRW's that
> have been in use for well over a year now, and do not use the 4x discs
> unless I have to.
>
> Given the choice at a comparable price would you prefer to use a 52k
> modem or 128k Jetstream?
>
> Are 52x CDR's "hype", or can they be written to with similar reliability
> rates as CDR's rated for 24x?

I find it surprising that there are still a lot of brands on sale that
are marked only up to 4x, when 12x can be bought for the same or less.

Or maybe WHS has old stock.

My favourite CD-Rs are marked 48x, which is only a little below the 52x
the writer can manage.

"Patrick Dunford" <> wrote in message
news:. nz...
> In article <>, server@localhost says...
> > Patrick Dunford wrote:
> > > I see a lot of CDRW disks are only 4x, Imation and Datalife Plus at
the
> > > Warehouse and some Mitsubishi disks sold by DSE are only rated up to
4x
> > >
> > > DSE also sell some Mitsubishi disks rated up to 12x. Is this hype or
can
> > > these disks be used reliably at 10x - 12x?
> >
> > When I first got my RW drive, I purchased a couple of 4x discs to use
> > with it as at that time RW discs were still quite expensive and HSRW
> > discs were rare.
> >
> > Since that time I have picked up a number of Datalife 12x HSRW's that
> > have been in use for well over a year now, and do not use the 4x discs
> > unless I have to.
> >
> > Given the choice at a comparable price would you prefer to use a 52k
> > modem or 128k Jetstream?
> >
> > Are 52x CDR's "hype", or can they be written to with similar reliability
> > rates as CDR's rated for 24x?
>
> I find it surprising that there are still a lot of brands on sale that
> are marked only up to 4x, when 12x can be bought for the same or less.
>
> Or maybe WHS has old stock.
>
> My favourite CD-Rs are marked 48x, which is only a little below the 52x
> the writer can manage.

I have an ancient HP 9100+ CD Writer, and it can't write in any CD-RW rate
more than 4x. CD-R discs are ok but not much faster

Because my backup takes around 15 CDs on Windows, and another 10 CDs on the
iMac, and and I can't think of swapping discs anymore (even DVD), I decided
to buy an external firewire 60GB hard drive. Backups are a way faster, and
no need to be around. On the other hand it's only one unit, so I might have
to buy a second one soon to allow for cycles...

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server wrote:

> Are 52x CDR's "hype", or can they be written to with similar reliability
> rates as CDR's rated for 24x?

They're hype.

It may be possible to write at that speed, but reliability - both
immediately and over time - will likely be an issue.

For longevity - I burn at 12x. For ISOs that will be obselete (Fedora
Core 2 - test 3 - was current for 2-3 weeks) I'll burn at 24x.

Patrick Dunford wrote:

> I find it surprising that there are still a lot of brands on sale that
> are marked only up to 4x, when 12x can be bought for the same or less.
>
> Or maybe WHS has old stock.

There are compatibility issues with HSRW media in low speed drives,
hence a lot of non-specialist retailers tend to stock mainly the 4x media.

Then there are the 24x USRW media, but that is another story. At least
the drives are backwards compatible.

> They're hype.
>
> It may be possible to write at that speed, but reliability - both
> immediately and over time - will likely be an issue.
>
> For longevity - I burn at 12x. For ISOs that will be obselete (Fedora
> Core 2 - test 3 - was current for 2-3 weeks) I'll burn at 24x.

I have yet to have a failure due to write speed, all my duds have being media
damage, or media shittieness. I have 48 speed written things going back a few
years now to when 48 speed first came out that are still readable.

In article <3CDrc.3473$>,
lid says...
> "Patrick Dunford" <> wrote in message
> news:. nz...
> > In article <>, server@localhost says...
> > > Patrick Dunford wrote:
> > > > I see a lot of CDRW disks are only 4x, Imation and Datalife Plus at
> the
> > > > Warehouse and some Mitsubishi disks sold by DSE are only rated up to
> 4x
> > > >
> > > > DSE also sell some Mitsubishi disks rated up to 12x. Is this hype or
> can
> > > > these disks be used reliably at 10x - 12x?
> > >
> > > When I first got my RW drive, I purchased a couple of 4x discs to use
> > > with it as at that time RW discs were still quite expensive and HSRW
> > > discs were rare.
> > >
> > > Since that time I have picked up a number of Datalife 12x HSRW's that
> > > have been in use for well over a year now, and do not use the 4x discs
> > > unless I have to.
> > >
> > > Given the choice at a comparable price would you prefer to use a 52k
> > > modem or 128k Jetstream?
> > >
> > > Are 52x CDR's "hype", or can they be written to with similar reliability
> > > rates as CDR's rated for 24x?
> >
> > I find it surprising that there are still a lot of brands on sale that
> > are marked only up to 4x, when 12x can be bought for the same or less.
> >
> > Or maybe WHS has old stock.
> >
> > My favourite CD-Rs are marked 48x, which is only a little below the 52x
> > the writer can manage.
>
> I have an ancient HP 9100+ CD Writer, and it can't write in any CD-RW rate
> more than 4x. CD-R discs are ok but not much faster
>
> Because my backup takes around 15 CDs on Windows, and another 10 CDs on the
> iMac, and and I can't think of swapping discs anymore (even DVD), I decided
> to buy an external firewire 60GB hard drive. Backups are a way faster, and
> no need to be around. On the other hand it's only one unit, so I might have
> to buy a second one soon to allow for cycles...

When Bluray gets affordable it will be a much better backup system

In article <40af110d$>, server@localhost says...
> Patrick Dunford wrote:
>
> > I find it surprising that there are still a lot of brands on sale that
> > are marked only up to 4x, when 12x can be bought for the same or less.
> >
> > Or maybe WHS has old stock.
>
> There are compatibility issues with HSRW media in low speed drives,
> hence a lot of non-specialist retailers tend to stock mainly the 4x media.

Is that for recording or playback?

If I burn at 10x, will there be any compatibility issues with say any CD
rom drive under 24x capable? I know that some older CD rom drives can't
read CDRW disks. Really ancient drives like the 4x I used to have could
still read CDRs if they were burned at 8x.

> Then there are the 24x USRW media, but that is another story. At least
> the drives are backwards compatible.

The drive claims it can do 32x write, but there are no disks more than
12x is there?