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L33T wrote:
> ??? are you serious ???
>
> a computer is simply a consumer item. some people know how to use
> them, some don't. some ppl know how to use them really well, some ppl
> know how to use it really well, badly.
>
> who decides what the site + matching computer hardware standards
> should be ? ibm ? dell ? telecom ? ihug ? peaches and cream ? indira
> patel at the dairy ? school kids ? woger ? (see a pattern emerging).

http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/ would be a good place to start.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2822606a28,00.html

all govt websites must be redesigned by jan 1 2006.

"The guidelines aim to ensure websites work on old PCs with Internet
connections as slow as 9.6kbps, use the Maori language consistently and take
account of disabilities. "

great to see that the govt expects people to still be having speed of 9.6 in
another **two** years time.

so the decision is for no absolutely unbundling, no change of heart.

L33T wrote:
> all govt websites must be redesigned by jan 1 2006.
> "The guidelines aim to ensure websites work on old PCs with Internet
> connections as slow as 9.6kbps, use the Maori language consistently and take
> account of disabilities. "
> great to see that the govt expects people to still be having speed of 9.6 in
> another **two** years time.

Maybe they want them to work for Cellphone connections?

--
Dave Hall
http://Dave.net.nz
We have Hangman, Pacman, and Space Invaders

i hadn't considered that, primarily because of mallards comments about the
need for govt websites to be loadable at 9.6 for those who can't afford the
latest technology. they also may live in the wrong place - i read that as
rural or isolated.

> Maybe they want them to work for Cellphone connections?

L33T wrote:

> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2822606a28,00.html
>
> all govt websites must be redesigned by jan 1 2006.
>
> "The guidelines aim to ensure websites work on old PCs with Internet
> connections as slow as 9.6kbps, use the Maori language consistently and
> take account of disabilities. "
>
> great to see that the govt expects people to still be having speed of 9.6
> in another **two** years time.
>
> so the decision is for no absolutely unbundling, no change of heart.

A fair number of people in NZ live in aplces where the electric fence clicks
make 9.6 seem like an impossible dream.

I believe the government is doing the right thing in ensuring what they
provide can be accessed by everyone who can keep a connection going long
enough to be usable.

L33T wrote:
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2822606a28,00.html
>
> all govt websites must be redesigned by jan 1 2006.
>
> "The guidelines aim to ensure websites work on old PCs with Internet
> connections as slow as 9.6kbps, use the Maori language consistently and take
> account of disabilities. "
>
> great to see that the govt expects people to still be having speed of 9.6 in
> another **two** years time.
>
> so the decision is for no absolutely unbundling, no change of heart.
>
>

Excellent news
Well done Mark Harris !
Text information needs to be made available in plain html for the blind
using text to speech
Listen to the web designers whine !
Its got nothing to do with unbundling of copper ADSL and everything to
do with universal access to information.

harry wrote:

> Its got nothing to do with unbundling of copper ADSL and everything to
> do with universal access to information.

At risk of repeating myself - I agree.

L33T wrote:
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2822606a28,00.html
> all govt websites must be redesigned by jan 1 2006.
> "The guidelines aim to ensure websites work on old PCs with Internet
> connections as slow as 9.6kbps, use the Maori language consistently and take
> account of disabilities. "
> great to see that the govt expects people to still be having speed of 9.6 in
> another **two** years time.
> so the decision is for no absolutely unbundling, no change of heart.

If they started making webpages that took 15 mins to load on dialup,
would that be supportive of unbundling?

--
Dave Hall
http://Dave.net.nz
We have Hangman, Pacman, and Space Invaders

This is good...like yahoo main page loads really quickly while it looks and
functions OK too.


"L33T" <> wrote in message
news:c1b67m$b9v$...
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2822606a28,00.html
>
> all govt websites must be redesigned by jan 1 2006.
>
> "The guidelines aim to ensure websites work on old PCs with Internet
> connections as slow as 9.6kbps, use the Maori language consistently and
take
> account of disabilities. "
>
> great to see that the govt expects people to still be having speed of 9.6
in
> another **two** years time.
>
> so the decision is for no absolutely unbundling, no change of heart.
>
>

"L33T" <> wrote in
news:c1b7fk$ckn$:

> i hadn't considered that, primarily because of mallards comments about
> the need for govt websites to be loadable at 9.6 for those who can't
> afford the latest technology. they also may live in the wrong place -
> i read that as rural or isolated.
>
>> Maybe they want them to work for Cellphone connections?
>
>
>
>

I'm glad you have raised the issue of mallard's. Mallard's are ducks, have
no understanding of IT and tend to CRAP everywhere. I don't think there is
any cause for alarm.

--
Chris

"Two men walk into a bar. You'd think the second one would've ducked..."