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Max
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      02-16-2004
Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.
 
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T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz
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      02-16-2004
Max wrote:
> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.


post the tracert...

If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
that way.

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      02-16-2004
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Max wrote:
>> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
>> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
>> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
>> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.

>
>post the tracert...
>
>If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
>that way.


Here it is

| 1 | | 202.180.80.10 | nas2.wlg.tranzpeer.net | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 141 | x | CallPlus Services Limited |
| 2 | | 202.180.65.89 | cer1.wlg.tranzpeer.net | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 141 | x | CallPlus Services Limited |
| 3 | | 202.180.67.253 | - | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 158 | x- | CallPlus Services Limited |
| 4 | | 202.180.64.71 | vlan5.br1.akl.tranzpeer.net | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 195 | -x------ | CallPlus Services Limited |
| 5 | | 202.50.116.197 | a5-0-0-24.akcr5.global-gateway.net.nz | - | | 180 | -x-- | NZ Gate National Service Provider |
| 6 | | 202.50.245.106 | a3-0-5.tkcr1.global-gateway.net.nz | - | | 174 | -x | NZ Gate National Service Provider |
| 7 | | 202.50.245.206 | tcnz-is-dom2.tkcr1.global-gateway.net.nz | - | | 164 | x- | NZ Gate National Service Provider |
| 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
| 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
 
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Richard Gallagher
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      02-16-2004
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:09:46 +1300, Max <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Max wrote:
>>> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
>>> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
>>> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
>>> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.

>>
>>post the tracert...
>>
>>If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
>>that way.

>
>Here it is

|
>| 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
>| 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |


The class b IP address range starting with 146.171 is assigned to
Telecom NZ. They seemed to be used for Telecom proper, Xtra and
Netway (or Netgate or whatever they are called now) typically use
other address ranges.

It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
but highly unlikely. The most likely answer is that the program you
are using doesn't know where the address is located so it is guessing
incorrectly that because it was assign by APNIC that it is located in
Australia.

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ufo_hk
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      02-17-2004
Not so sure - Telecoms eservice offerings are based upon servers hosted in
the states. So wh not their own sites servers?

"Richard Gallagher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
> but highly unlikely.
>
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      02-17-2004
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:52:16 +1300, Richard Gallagher wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:09:46 +1300, Max <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Max wrote:
>>>> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
>>>> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
>>>> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
>>>> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.
>>>
>>>post the tracert...
>>>
>>>If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
>>>that way.

>>
>>Here it is

> |
>>| 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
>>| 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |

>
> The class b IP address range starting with 146.171 is assigned to
> Telecom NZ. They seemed to be used for Telecom proper, Xtra and
> Netway (or Netgate or whatever they are called now) typically use
> other address ranges.
>
> It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
> but highly unlikely. The most likely answer is that the program you
> are using doesn't know where the address is located so it is guessing
> incorrectly that because it was assign by APNIC that it is located in
> Australia.


They probably do it so jetstream users use up more data and pay telecom
 
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Enkidu
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      02-17-2004

Erm, costs? They'll not mind clients paying for traffic, but they
won't want to pay for it themselves. Sure it would be only wooden
dollars, but still. Another reason could be convenience. It's a lot
easier if your admins and programmers can put their mitts on the
console keyboard. Another reason is expertise. They have the ability
and knowledge to set stuff up. I'm not sure what the eservice stuff
gives, but I bet the environment is pretty heavily specced and
monitored by the local agents.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:34:43 +1300, "ufo_hk" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Not so sure - Telecoms eservice offerings are based upon servers hosted in
>the states. So wh not their own sites servers?
>
>"Richard Gallagher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>
>
>> It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
>> but highly unlikely.
>>
>> --
>> Richard Gallagher

>


 
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      02-17-2004
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:20:34 +1300, "-[Myth]-"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:52:16 +1300, Richard Gallagher wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:09:46 +1300, Max <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Max wrote:
>>>>> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
>>>>> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
>>>>> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
>>>>> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.
>>>>
>>>>post the tracert...
>>>>
>>>>If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
>>>>that way.
>>>
>>>Here it is

>> |
>>>| 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
>>>| 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |

>>
>> The class b IP address range starting with 146.171 is assigned to
>> Telecom NZ. They seemed to be used for Telecom proper, Xtra and
>> Netway (or Netgate or whatever they are called now) typically use
>> other address ranges.
>>
>> It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
>> but highly unlikely. The most likely answer is that the program you
>> are using doesn't know where the address is located so it is guessing
>> incorrectly that because it was assign by APNIC that it is located in
>> Australia.

>
>They probably do it so jetstream users use up more data and pay telecom



That's what the cynic in me was thinking

Telecom do offer services in ozzie, so this could be a step in
centralising their services in to Australia.
 
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