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Lawrence DčOliveiro
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      02-01-2004
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) (Jason M) wrote:

>If spam could be isolated to an IP number that should be blacklisted
>rather than the whole ISP.


It could be a dial-up address. So if you blacklist it, the next innocent
user to connect and be assigned that address could suffer.

I once found myself unable to send mail to MacInTouch
<http://www.macintouch.com/>. Turned out they'd blacklisted a whole
range of addresses for sending spam, including the range being used for
dialup by my ISP (Wave). Now I seriously doubt that Wave would tolerate
spammers among its customers. But how was I supposed to be able to get
in contact with MacInTouch to tell them to please unblock my ISP's IP
addresses?

Luckily I had an e-mail account at one of my clients, and I was able to
contact them from there and get them to undo the block. But I could have
ended up completely stuck...
 
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T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz
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      02-01-2004
Lawrence DčOliveiro wrote:
>>If spam could be isolated to an IP number that should be blacklisted
>>rather than the whole ISP.

> It could be a dial-up address. So if you blacklist it, the next innocent
> user to connect and be assigned that address could suffer.


heh, true.

> I once found myself unable to send mail to MacInTouch
> <http://www.macintouch.com/>. Turned out they'd blacklisted a whole
> range of addresses for sending spam, including the range being used for
> dialup by my ISP (Wave). Now I seriously doubt that Wave would tolerate
> spammers among its customers. But how was I supposed to be able to get
> in contact with MacInTouch to tell them to please unblock my ISP's IP
> addresses?


Phone?
Free email address?
txt?
snail mail?

There's four alternatives.

> Luckily I had an e-mail account at one of my clients, and I was able to
> contact them from there and get them to undo the block. But I could have
> ended up completely stuck...


admittedly it is kinda annoying, but it is *only* email...

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Jason M
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      02-01-2004
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:22:59 +1300, Lawrence DčOliveiro
<(E-Mail Removed)_zealand> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) (Jason M) wrote:
>
>>If spam could be isolated to an IP number that should be blacklisted
>>rather than the whole ISP.

>
>It could be a dial-up address. So if you blacklist it, the next innocent
>user to connect and be assigned that address could suffer.


I am just suggesting a temporary blacklist, say for an hour or so,
plus a message to the ISP to show them that they need to do something.
If the ISP ignores it, the blacklist could be progressively longer,
until the entire ISP is blocked whatever IP numbers they use.
I have set my firewall to permanently block the Korean ISPs whose
customers access my machine.

 
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pbs
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      02-02-2004
T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz wrote:
> Lawrence DčOliveiro wrote:

[snip]
>> tolerate spammers among its customers. But how was I supposed to be
>> able to get in contact with MacInTouch to tell them to please unblock
>> my ISP's IP addresses?

>
> Phone?
> Free email address?
> txt?
> snail mail?
>
> There's four alternatives.


5) carrier pigeon, 6) shank's pony ...
 
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Peter KERR
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      02-03-2004

> 5) carrier pigeon,


must conform to RFC 1149
 
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Lawrence DčOliveiro
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      02-03-2004
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Peter KERR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> 5) carrier pigeon,

>
>must conform to RFC 1149


"A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers"
<ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1149.txt>
 
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Peter KERR
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      02-04-2004
> >> 5) carrier pigeon,
> >
> >must conform to RFC 1149

>
> "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers"
> <ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1149.txt>


a working demonstration of the technology can be seen at

http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/
 
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