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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:48 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:

>In article <>,
> says...
>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:28:55 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <>,
>> > says...
>> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:52:17 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <UC_Jb.1720$>, ~misfit~@his_desk.com
>> >> >says...
>> >> >> T.N.O. wrote:
>> >> >> > Loupole wrote:
>> >> >> >> Are the above temps in safe limits or should I think about some extra
>> >> >> >> cooling ???
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Safe? yes, inside limits? yes, would I be happy with them myself? no.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Agree on all counts.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Check out one of the millions of articles online about airflow through
>> >> >> > a case... some simple ducting can mean that you don't need any more
>> >> >> > fans than usual... maintaining your sanity.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, it's the fans........... Bwahaaahaaa.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Loupole, you need to get more airflow through your case. Your case temp is
>> >> >> too high, in general even the very best HSF can only keep the CPU within
>> >> >> 12°C of the case temp. With that set-up you need *at least* two case fans in
>> >> >> summer, one blowing out below your PSU and one sucking in at the front. If
>> >> >> you already have two then check that your IDE cables etc. aren't obstructing
>> >> >> the air-flow through the case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lower your case temp and the CPU temp will folllow. "Dumbdedo"'s advice is
>> >> >> flawed as he doesn't really give you any help, just anecdotal evidence
>> >> >> concerning a case with a side removed.
>> >> >
>> >> >My old P166MMX is reading 65 in summer with the motherboard temp at 31, I
>> >> >figure getting at least one fan at the back should lower the CPU temp?
>> >> >there are vents at the front of the case so the dust shouldn't be sucked
>> >> >through the CD ROM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why all this illegal HTML postings..
>> >>
>> >> Or is it that this news group is now full or Dorks..?
>> >
>> >Full of you, my posts are made using a plain text reader
>> >
>> >You shouldn't complain just because the news client you are using came
>> >out of the ark
>>
>>
>>
>> At lest mine is not obsolete like yours..
>>
>> And fully Suprted and soon V2 will be out..
>>
>>
>>
>> Time me think for you to upgrade..
>
>I'm using an open source newsreader, open source software is the best
>there is. It's been updated and supports a whole lot more features than
>agent.



Looks like utter Crap to me, and Gravity went bust years ago..

In article <>,
says...
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:48 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>
> >In article <>,
> > says...
> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:28:55 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <>,
> >> > says...
> >> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:52:17 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <UC_Jb.1720$>, ~misfit~@his_desk.com
> >> >> >says...
> >> >> >> T.N.O. wrote:
> >> >> >> > Loupole wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Are the above temps in safe limits or should I think about some extra
> >> >> >> >> cooling ???
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Safe? yes, inside limits? yes, would I be happy with them myself? no.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Agree on all counts.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Check out one of the millions of articles online about airflow through
> >> >> >> > a case... some simple ducting can mean that you don't need any more
> >> >> >> > fans than usual... maintaining your sanity.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So, it's the fans........... Bwahaaahaaa.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Loupole, you need to get more airflow through your case. Your case temp is
> >> >> >> too high, in general even the very best HSF can only keep the CPU within
> >> >> >> 12°C of the case temp. With that set-up you need *at least* two case fans in
> >> >> >> summer, one blowing out below your PSU and one sucking in at the front. If
> >> >> >> you already have two then check that your IDE cables etc. aren't obstructing
> >> >> >> the air-flow through the case.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Lower your case temp and the CPU temp will folllow. "Dumbdedo"'s advice is
> >> >> >> flawed as he doesn't really give you any help, just anecdotal evidence
> >> >> >> concerning a case with a side removed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >My old P166MMX is reading 65 in summer with the motherboard temp at 31, I
> >> >> >figure getting at least one fan at the back should lower the CPU temp?
> >> >> >there are vents at the front of the case so the dust shouldn't be sucked
> >> >> >through the CD ROM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Why all this illegal HTML postings..
> >> >>
> >> >> Or is it that this news group is now full or Dorks..?
> >> >
> >> >Full of you, my posts are made using a plain text reader
> >> >
> >> >You shouldn't complain just because the news client you are using came
> >> >out of the ark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At lest mine is not obsolete like yours..
> >>
> >> And fully Suprted and soon V2 will be out..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Time me think for you to upgrade..
> >
> >I'm using an open source newsreader, open source software is the best
> >there is. It's been updated and supports a whole lot more features than
> >agent.
>
>
>
> Looks like utter Crap to me, and Gravity went bust years ago..

It's an open sourc newsreader, see the link below for the developers

--
Full featured open source Win32 newsreader - Gravity 2.70
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/

In article <>,
says...
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:48 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>
> >In article <>,
> > says...
> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:28:55 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <>,
> >> > says...
> >> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:52:17 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <UC_Jb.1720$>, ~misfit~@his_desk.com
> >> >> >says...
> >> >> >> T.N.O. wrote:
> >> >> >> > Loupole wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Are the above temps in safe limits or should I think about some extra
> >> >> >> >> cooling ???
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Safe? yes, inside limits? yes, would I be happy with them myself? no.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Agree on all counts.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Check out one of the millions of articles online about airflow through
> >> >> >> > a case... some simple ducting can mean that you don't need any more
> >> >> >> > fans than usual... maintaining your sanity.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So, it's the fans........... Bwahaaahaaa.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Loupole, you need to get more airflow through your case. Your case temp is
> >> >> >> too high, in general even the very best HSF can only keep the CPU within
> >> >> >> 12°C of the case temp. With that set-up you need *at least* two case fans in
> >> >> >> summer, one blowing out below your PSU and one sucking in at the front. If
> >> >> >> you already have two then check that your IDE cables etc. aren't obstructing
> >> >> >> the air-flow through the case.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Lower your case temp and the CPU temp will folllow. "Dumbdedo"'s advice is
> >> >> >> flawed as he doesn't really give you any help, just anecdotal evidence
> >> >> >> concerning a case with a side removed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >My old P166MMX is reading 65 in summer with the motherboard temp at 31, I
> >> >> >figure getting at least one fan at the back should lower the CPU temp?
> >> >> >there are vents at the front of the case so the dust shouldn't be sucked
> >> >> >through the CD ROM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Why all this illegal HTML postings..
> >> >>
> >> >> Or is it that this news group is now full or Dorks..?
> >> >
> >> >Full of you, my posts are made using a plain text reader
> >> >
> >> >You shouldn't complain just because the news client you are using came
> >> >out of the ark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At lest mine is not obsolete like yours..
> >>
> >> And fully Suprted and soon V2 will be out..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Time me think for you to upgrade..
> >
> >I'm using an open source newsreader, open source software is the best
> >there is. It's been updated and supports a whole lot more features than
> >agent.
>
>
>
> Looks like utter Crap to me, and Gravity went bust years ago..

That was after Forte sold out Agent

--
Full featured open source Win32 newsreader - Gravity 2.70
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:37:58 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:

>In article <>,
> says...
>> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:48 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <>,
>> > says...
>> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:28:55 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <>,
>> >> > says...
>> >> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:52:17 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >In article <UC_Jb.1720$>, ~misfit~@his_desk.com
>> >> >> >says...
>> >> >> >> T.N.O. wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Loupole wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Are the above temps in safe limits or should I think about some extra
>> >> >> >> >> cooling ???
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Safe? yes, inside limits? yes, would I be happy with them myself? no.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Agree on all counts.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Check out one of the millions of articles online about airflow through
>> >> >> >> > a case... some simple ducting can mean that you don't need any more
>> >> >> >> > fans than usual... maintaining your sanity.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> So, it's the fans........... Bwahaaahaaa.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Loupole, you need to get more airflow through your case. Your case temp is
>> >> >> >> too high, in general even the very best HSF can only keep the CPU within
>> >> >> >> 12°C of the case temp. With that set-up you need *at least* two case fans in
>> >> >> >> summer, one blowing out below your PSU and one sucking in at the front. If
>> >> >> >> you already have two then check that your IDE cables etc. aren't obstructing
>> >> >> >> the air-flow through the case.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Lower your case temp and the CPU temp will folllow. "Dumbdedo"'s advice is
>> >> >> >> flawed as he doesn't really give you any help, just anecdotal evidence
>> >> >> >> concerning a case with a side removed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >My old P166MMX is reading 65 in summer with the motherboard temp at 31, I
>> >> >> >figure getting at least one fan at the back should lower the CPU temp?
>> >> >> >there are vents at the front of the case so the dust shouldn't be sucked
>> >> >> >through the CD ROM
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why all this illegal HTML postings..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or is it that this news group is now full or Dorks..?
>> >> >
>> >> >Full of you, my posts are made using a plain text reader
>> >> >
>> >> >You shouldn't complain just because the news client you are using came
>> >> >out of the ark
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At lest mine is not obsolete like yours..
>> >>
>> >> And fully Suprted and soon V2 will be out..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Time me think for you to upgrade..
>> >
>> >I'm using an open source newsreader, open source software is the best
>> >there is. It's been updated and supports a whole lot more features than
>> >agent.
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like utter Crap to me, and Gravity went bust years ago..
>
>It's an open sourc newsreader, see the link below for the developers



Yes ant Utter Crap at that..

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:46:46 +1300, K & S
<> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:48 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>
>>In article <>,
>> says...
>>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:28:55 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <>,
>>> > says...
>>> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:52:17 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >In article <UC_Jb.1720$>, ~misfit~@his_desk.com
>>> >> >says...
>>> >> >> T.N.O. wrote:
>>> >> >> > Loupole wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Are the above temps in safe limits or should I think about some extra
>>> >> >> >> cooling ???
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Safe? yes, inside limits? yes, would I be happy with them myself? no.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Agree on all counts.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Check out one of the millions of articles online about airflow through
>>> >> >> > a case... some simple ducting can mean that you don't need any more
>>> >> >> > fans than usual... maintaining your sanity.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> So, it's the fans........... Bwahaaahaaa.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Loupole, you need to get more airflow through your case. Your case temp is
>>> >> >> too high, in general even the very best HSF can only keep the CPU within
>>> >> >> 12°C of the case temp. With that set-up you need *at least* two case fans in
>>> >> >> summer, one blowing out below your PSU and one sucking in at the front. If
>>> >> >> you already have two then check that your IDE cables etc. aren't obstructing
>>> >> >> the air-flow through the case.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Lower your case temp and the CPU temp will folllow. "Dumbdedo"'s advice is
>>> >> >> flawed as he doesn't really give you any help, just anecdotal evidence
>>> >> >> concerning a case with a side removed.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >My old P166MMX is reading 65 in summer with the motherboard temp at 31, I
>>> >> >figure getting at least one fan at the back should lower the CPU temp?
>>> >> >there are vents at the front of the case so the dust shouldn't be sucked
>>> >> >through the CD ROM
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Why all this illegal HTML postings..
>>> >>
>>> >> Or is it that this news group is now full or Dorks..?
>>> >
>>> >Full of you, my posts are made using a plain text reader
>>> >
>>> >You shouldn't complain just because the news client you are using came
>>> >out of the ark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At lest mine is not obsolete like yours..
>>>
>>> And fully Suprted and soon V2 will be out..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Time me think for you to upgrade..
>>
>>I'm using an open source newsreader, open source software is the best
>>there is. It's been updated and supports a whole lot more features than
>>agent.
>
>
>
>Looks like utter Crap to me, and Gravity went bust years ago..
>
I don't see the problem you are having Roger, and I'm using the same
news reader as you.Check your configuration.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:35:40 +1300, Bret <> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:46:46 +1300, K & S
><> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:48 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <>,
>>> says...
>>>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:28:55 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >In article <>,
>>>> > says...
>>>> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:52:17 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >In article <UC_Jb.1720$>, ~misfit~@his_desk.com
>>>> >> >says...
>>>> >> >> T.N.O. wrote:
>>>> >> >> > Loupole wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> Are the above temps in safe limits or should I think about some extra
>>>> >> >> >> cooling ???
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Safe? yes, inside limits? yes, would I be happy with them myself? no.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Agree on all counts.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> > Check out one of the millions of articles online about airflow through
>>>> >> >> > a case... some simple ducting can mean that you don't need any more
>>>> >> >> > fans than usual... maintaining your sanity.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> So, it's the fans........... Bwahaaahaaa.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Loupole, you need to get more airflow through your case. Your case temp is
>>>> >> >> too high, in general even the very best HSF can only keep the CPU within
>>>> >> >> 12°C of the case temp. With that set-up you need *at least* two case fans in
>>>> >> >> summer, one blowing out below your PSU and one sucking in at the front. If
>>>> >> >> you already have two then check that your IDE cables etc. aren't obstructing
>>>> >> >> the air-flow through the case.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Lower your case temp and the CPU temp will folllow. "Dumbdedo"'s advice is
>>>> >> >> flawed as he doesn't really give you any help, just anecdotal evidence
>>>> >> >> concerning a case with a side removed.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >My old P166MMX is reading 65 in summer with the motherboard temp at 31, I
>>>> >> >figure getting at least one fan at the back should lower the CPU temp?
>>>> >> >there are vents at the front of the case so the dust shouldn't be sucked
>>>> >> >through the CD ROM
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why all this illegal HTML postings..
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Or is it that this news group is now full or Dorks..?
>>>> >
>>>> >Full of you, my posts are made using a plain text reader
>>>> >
>>>> >You shouldn't complain just because the news client you are using came
>>>> >out of the ark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At lest mine is not obsolete like yours..
>>>>
>>>> And fully Suprted and soon V2 will be out..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time me think for you to upgrade..
>>>
>>>I'm using an open source newsreader, open source software is the best
>>>there is. It's been updated and supports a whole lot more features than
>>>agent.
>>
>>
>>
>>Looks like utter Crap to me, and Gravity went bust years ago..
>>
>I don't see the problem you are having Roger, and I'm using the same
>news reader as you.Check your configuration.


Otheres are having the same problem and I am only getting this problem with
One poster, no I can't see how its my Agent doing this, and if so I have not a
clue on how to fix it..

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:46 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> said


>**** off Dickhead, I am using a plain text client, the same one as I have
>always used.
>
>It does not post in HTML.
>
>Don't complain just because your old version of Agent doesn't recognise
>plain text because it is an arcane piece of crap written by people with a
>narrow outlook like you

Hey, hey, hey. Agent recognises & displays your post correctly, so don't go
dissing Agent or those who wrote it or those who use it.

Confine your venom to him that deserves it.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:27:18 +1300, K & S
<> said

>
>Otheres are having the same problem and I am only getting this problem with
>One poster, no I can't see how its my Agent doing this, and if so I have not a
>clue on how to fix it..

Yes, we know you haven't a clue. Tell us something new about yourself.

In article <>,
says...
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:37:58 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>
> >In article <>,
> > says...
> >> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:48 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <>,
> >> > says...
> >> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:28:55 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <>,
> >> >> > says...
> >> >> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:52:17 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >In article <UC_Jb.1720$>, ~misfit~@his_desk.com
> >> >> >> >says...
> >> >> >> >> T.N.O. wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > Loupole wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Are the above temps in safe limits or should I think about some extra
> >> >> >> >> >> cooling ???
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Safe? yes, inside limits? yes, would I be happy with them myself? no.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Agree on all counts.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Check out one of the millions of articles online about airflow through
> >> >> >> >> > a case... some simple ducting can mean that you don't need any more
> >> >> >> >> > fans than usual... maintaining your sanity.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> So, it's the fans........... Bwahaaahaaa.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Loupole, you need to get more airflow through your case. Your case temp is
> >> >> >> >> too high, in general even the very best HSF can only keep the CPU within
> >> >> >> >> 12°C of the case temp. With that set-up you need *at least* two case fans in
> >> >> >> >> summer, one blowing out below your PSU and one sucking in at the front. If
> >> >> >> >> you already have two then check that your IDE cables etc. aren't obstructing
> >> >> >> >> the air-flow through the case.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Lower your case temp and the CPU temp will folllow. "Dumbdedo"'s advice is
> >> >> >> >> flawed as he doesn't really give you any help, just anecdotal evidence
> >> >> >> >> concerning a case with a side removed.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >My old P166MMX is reading 65 in summer with the motherboard temp at 31, I
> >> >> >> >figure getting at least one fan at the back should lower the CPU temp?
> >> >> >> >there are vents at the front of the case so the dust shouldn't be sucked
> >> >> >> >through the CD ROM
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why all this illegal HTML postings..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Or is it that this news group is now full or Dorks..?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Full of you, my posts are made using a plain text reader
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You shouldn't complain just because the news client you are using came
> >> >> >out of the ark
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> At lest mine is not obsolete like yours..
> >> >>
> >> >> And fully Suprted and soon V2 will be out..
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Time me think for you to upgrade..
> >> >
> >> >I'm using an open source newsreader, open source software is the best
> >> >there is. It's been updated and supports a whole lot more features than
> >> >agent.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Looks like utter Crap to me, and Gravity went bust years ago..
> >
> >It's an open sourc newsreader, see the link below for the developers
>
>
>
> Yes ant Utter Crap at that..

the only crap around here is Woger and the bile he spews forth every day

--
Full featured open source Win32 newsreader - Gravity 2.70
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:36:51 +1300, jerm <> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:04:46 +1300, Mainlander <*@*.*> said
>
>
>>**** off Dickhead, I am using a plain text client, the same one as I have
>>always used.
>>
>>It does not post in HTML.
>>
>>Don't complain just because your old version of Agent doesn't recognise
>>plain text because it is an arcane piece of crap written by people with a
>>narrow outlook like you
>
>Hey, hey, hey. Agent recognises & displays your post correctly, so don't go
>dissing Agent or those who wrote it or those who use it.
>
>Confine your venom to him that deserves it.
>
I'm using an old version of Agent. Some of Mainlander's posts show
the =20's on each line, and some posts don't. Clearly he is doing
something different sometimes when he posts. There are at least three
of us reading this newsgroup using Agent who can see the =20s
sometimes on Mainlander's posts.
I almost never see them for anyone else's posts, no matter what client
they are using.