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"DUser" <> wrote in message
news...
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:01:23 +1300, Lebowski wrote:
>
> >
> > "ChrisOD" <> wrote in message
> > news:. ..
> >> In article <3fe54149$>,
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> > "Craig Shore" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:...
> >> > > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:43:59 -0600, techie
<>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:48:09 -0600, Craig Shore wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> The RIAA no longer has the right to subpoena ISPs for users
names
> >> > > >> sharing it's content on P2P networks.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/s...589046,00.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > >I love that closing quote.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Verizon is solely responsible for a legal process that will
> >> > > > now be less sensitive to the interests of its subscribers who
> >> > > > engage in illegal activity."
> >> > >
> >> > > Yeah, it's just impossible for them to ask the ISP to send a
warning
> >> > > letter on to their customer on the RIAAs behalf to settle out of
court
> >> > > isn't it. There's just no other way than having the legal right to
> >> > > demand the information themselves.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > So, how does this following headline fit into the current scheme of
> > things?
> >> > http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/default.asp?id=38142
> >> >
> >> > Music industry will prosecute - "NZ music industry will prosecute
kiwis
> > who
> >> > illegally download music- says many young NZers don't think it's
wrong"
> >> >
> >>
> >> Fantastic business plan, sue your custimers or potential customers.
> >> I really can't see people taking a shine to it!
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Considering Sony manufacture portable mp3 players and hi-fi systems that
are
> > aimed at consumers with hundreds of the "illegal" files people have
ripped /
> > downloaded, I find it an incredibly hypocritical stance on their part.
They
> > should be thanking the pirates for creating demand for their new product
> > lines, not biting the hand they feed from..
>
> You are complaining about action that the guy in charge of the record
> division has blustered about but not actually done anything about.
> At this stage his rhetoric is as empty as... well ...yours actually
>

well that's humanity for you

In article <3fe554c4$>,
says...
>
> "ChrisOD" <> wrote in message
> news:. ..
> > In article <3fe54149$>,
> > says...
> > >
> > > "Craig Shore" <> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:43:59 -0600, techie <>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:48:09 -0600, Craig Shore wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The RIAA no longer has the right to subpoena ISPs for users names
> > > > >> sharing it's content on P2P networks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/s...589046,00.html
> > > > >
> > > > >I love that closing quote.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Verizon is solely responsible for a legal process that will
> > > > > now be less sensitive to the interests of its subscribers who
> > > > > engage in illegal activity."
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, it's just impossible for them to ask the ISP to send a warning
> > > > letter on to their customer on the RIAAs behalf to settle out of court
> > > > isn't it. There's just no other way than having the legal right to
> > > > demand the information themselves.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > So, how does this following headline fit into the current scheme of
> things?
> > > http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/default.asp?id=38142
> > >
> > > Music industry will prosecute - "NZ music industry will prosecute kiwis
> who
> > > illegally download music- says many young NZers don't think it's wrong"
> > >
> >
> > Fantastic business plan, sue your custimers or potential customers.
> > I really can't see people taking a shine to it!
> >
> >
>
> Considering Sony manufacture portable mp3 players and hi-fi systems that are
> aimed at consumers with hundreds of the "illegal" files people have ripped /
> downloaded, I find it an incredibly hypocritical stance on their part. They
> should be thanking the pirates for creating demand for their new product
> lines, not biting the hand they feed from..

Ah, sony's memory stick technology uses "magic gate" to prevent illegal
copying

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"Mainlander" <*@*.*> wrote in message
news:. nz...
> In article <3fe554c4$>,
> says...
> > > > So, how does this following headline fit into the current scheme of
> > things?
> > > > http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/default.asp?id=38142
> > > >
> > > > Music industry will prosecute - "NZ music industry will prosecute
kiwis
> > who
> > > > illegally download music- says many young NZers don't think it's
wrong"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Fantastic business plan, sue your custimers or potential customers.
> > > I really can't see people taking a shine to it!
> > >
> > >
> > Considering Sony manufacture portable mp3 players and hi-fi systems that
are
> > aimed at consumers with hundreds of the "illegal" files people have
ripped /
> > downloaded, I find it an incredibly hypocritical stance on their part.
They
> > should be thanking the pirates for creating demand for their new product
> > lines, not biting the hand they feed from..
>
> Ah, sony's memory stick technology uses "magic gate" to prevent illegal
> copying
>
I'm not talking about memory sticks - Dick Smith and Noel Leeming have got
"ordinary" black-coloured cd Sony Diskmans that play regular cds as well as
mp3 compilation cds, and come complete with car kit. They're around the $279
mark.