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Windows 98SE - 80GB drive.

 
 
Jay
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      12-07-2003
~misfit~ wrote:

> I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2 board,
> XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget) A big step
> up from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and will use
> specialised software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so he wants 98SE
> on it.
>
> Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very computer-literate and
> I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by having multliple
> partitions. I've never tried installing 98 on a drive that big.
>
> Your input would be greatly appreciated.


There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.
Download and install the patches - fdisk will then work properly (but puts
a bit of garbage on screen). You will want to format with Windows format
and not command-line format.

You will have to search MS to find the patch - 263044USA8.EXE.


 
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      12-07-2003
Jay wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
>
>> I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2
>> board, XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget)
>> A big step up from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and
>> will use specialised software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so
>> he wants 98SE on it.
>>
>> Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very
>> computer-literate and I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by
>> having multliple partitions. I've never tried installing 98 on a
>> drive that big.
>>
>> Your input would be greatly appreciated.

>
> There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
> Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.
> Download and install the patches - fdisk will then work properly (but
> puts a bit of garbage on screen). You will want to format with
> Windows format and not command-line format.
>
> You will have to search MS to find the patch - 263044USA8.EXE.


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      12-07-2003
Gordon wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:50:01 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:
>
>> I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2
>> board, XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget)
>> A big step up from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and
>> will use specialised software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so
>> he wants 98SE on it.
>>
>> Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very
>> computer-literate and I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by
>> having multliple partitions. I've never tried installing 98 on a
>> drive that big.
>>
>> Your input would be greatly appreciated.

>
> a) It does work, assuming the BIOS sees it all.
>
> b) Does the old fellow ever need know that there are more than one
> partition. Short cuts hide the details.
>
> c) Let the old chap use his brain, and educate him about partitions,
> farmers use these all the time, called paddocks.
>
> Use it or lose it as they say.


He's a bright guy, he's just busy running three business' and doesn't want
to feck around with learning the finer points of how to use a PC. Also, I'd
be the one getting to do the educating/trouble-shooting and he lives a fair
distance away so I'd rather give him what he's used to.
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      12-07-2003
Graham wrote:
> I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.


Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?

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      12-07-2003
Jay wrote:
> There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
> Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.


You can get this from bootdisk.com
 
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      12-07-2003
"~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in news:CszAb.21468$VV6.477188
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> Graham wrote:
>> I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.

>
> Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?


I replaced Fdisk on my Win98 Boot Disk with the one in the following
link and did what you want to do. As far as I know it's not Win98 that
has a problem with HDD's over 64GB, it's Fdisk-

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q263044

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      12-07-2003
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> Jay wrote:
>> There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
>> Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.

>
> You can get this from bootdisk.com


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      12-07-2003
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> "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in
> news:CszAb.21468$VV6.477188 @news.xtra.co.nz:
>
>> Graham wrote:
>>> I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.

>>
>> Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?

>
> I replaced Fdisk on my Win98 Boot Disk with the one in the following
> link and did what you want to do. As far as I know it's not Win98 that
> has a problem with HDD's over 64GB, it's Fdisk-
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q263044


OK, thanks for that. The only thing is, it's an .exe file. I'm not sure how
to use it. Apparently it contains the update for 98 and 98SE and says to
replace the Fdisk.exe file on the start-up disk with the correct one of
these. However, I'm running XP and it won't open/run. I guess it replaces
the fdisk on a system running 98SE and then you copy it over to the disk. I
don't have a system running 98SE.
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      12-07-2003
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> bambam wrote:
>> "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in
>> news:CszAb.21468$VV6.477188 @news.xtra.co.nz:
>>
>>> Graham wrote:
>>>> I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.
>>>
>>> Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?

>>
>> I replaced Fdisk on my Win98 Boot Disk with the one in the following
>> link and did what you want to do. As far as I know it's not Win98
>> that has a problem with HDD's over 64GB, it's Fdisk-
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q263044

>
> OK, thanks for that. The only thing is, it's an .exe file. I'm not
> sure how to use it. Apparently it contains the update for 98 and 98SE
> and says to replace the Fdisk.exe file on the start-up disk with the
> correct one of these. However, I'm running XP and it won't open/run.
> I guess it replaces the fdisk on a system running 98SE and then you
> copy it over to the disk. I don't have a system running 98SE.


You can unzip it with winzip or winrar but there's nothing exciting in it.

08/12/2003 01:32 a.m. <DIR> .
08/12/2003 01:32 a.m. <DIR> ..
23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 1,161 1998UN.INF
23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 1,194 2222UN.INF
19/05/2000 11:53 a.m. 766 263044UP.INF
23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 2,363 98G_chk.INF
23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 2,397 98SE_chk.INF
11/12/1997 06:33 a.m. 80,864 ADVPACK.DLL
19/05/2000 10:30 a.m. 64,428 fdisk.98g
18/05/2000 08:35 a.m. 64,460 fdisk.98s
27/07/1998 03:48 p.m. 36,864 qfecheck.exe
09/02/1996 06:28 p.m. 8,042 qfecheck.hlp
04/12/1997 01:02 p.m. 2,272 W95INF16.DLL
04/12/1997 01:02 p.m. 4,608 W95INF32.DLL
13 File(s) 269,419 bytes

I guess you could just update the .dll's?
I was expecting a new fdisk.exe

Russell


 
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Dave Taylor
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      12-07-2003
19/05/2000 10:30 a.m. 64,428 fdisk.98g
18/05/2000 08:35 a.m. 64,460 fdisk.98s


These are probably copied and renamed to .exe by the .inf scripts.
I don't know which one is the Fdisk you need but it looks like one is for
98 original and the other for 98SE.
You could mess around with renaming them, but I would go to bootdisk.com
and use their disk.
You could pull the drive and mount in an 2k or xp box and make the
partition using disk mamanger.
Ciao, Dave
 
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